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[redxxfox]

So did we ever find out exactly what lead Morrigan gave to the warden to help the search to cure the calling? She mentions it in DAI for a romanced warden. I've been assuming this is also what she was talking about in Witch Hunt when at the end for an unromanced warden she mentions a gift that the warden might "have a great interest in." If these are referring to the same thing, I'm curious as to why Bioware hasn't actually said what the lead is (unless they have and I just don't know about it). 

[Nixou]

I'm curious as to why Bioware hasn't actually said what the lead is (unless they have and I just don't know about it). 

 

 

Because:

1. The Cure-the-Calling quest is an excuse to keep the HoF/Orlesian Commander offscreen
2. The writers probably haven't yet figured out the details of what transpired during that quest
3. The writers probably never even intended to figure out the details of what transpired during that quest
4. The writers will most probably delay resolving this thread until the true nature & origins of the Taint become a central part of the plot.
5. The true nature & origins of the Taint will not become a central part of the plot until at least Dragon Age 5

[MidnightWolf]

So did we ever find out exactly what lead Morrigan gave to the warden to help the search to cure the calling? She mentions it in DAI for a romanced warden. I've been assuming this is also what she was talking about in Witch Hunt when at the end for an unromanced warden she mentions a gift that the warden might "have a great interest in." If these are referring to the same thing, I'm curious as to why Bioware hasn't actually said what the lead is (unless they have and I just don't know about it).

But in Witch Hunt you can play as an Orlesian Warden, so why would she care about them finding a cure?

[Aren]

 

Flemeth in DA2 clearly said to Aveline that she wasn't capable to help her husband,only the joining would have helped him,so if Flemeth has no idea on how to remove the taint from an infected body,why should Morrigan which is nothing compared to Flemeth ?

No one found a cure among all the high scholar,ancient elves priest ,Evanuris ecc,... and suddendly Morrigan found the solution? 

Oh please,those are the kind of sloppy writing that i would include as the Mary sue syndrome,In fact for the moment it seems that this plot was swept under the carpet

due to excessive stupidity and contrivance,i cannot even imagine where Morrigan's advices leaded the Warden

( "the cure is into the land of far far away ,a nameless land into the west who has nothing but the cure,Warden keep looking in the meantime Solas will take Thedas for the Altmer elves)

This sub plot is just a disgusted noise 

[Beomer]

 

 

Flemeth in DAO clearly said to Aveline that she wasn't capable to help her husband,only the joining would have helped him,so if Flemeth has no idea on how to remove the taint from an infected body,why should Morrigan which is nothing compared to Flemeth ?

No one found a cure among all the high scholar,ancient elves priest ,Evanuris ecc,... and suddendly Morrigan found the solution? 

Oh please,those are the kind of sloppy writing that i would include as the Mary sue syndrome,In fact for the moment it seems that this plot was swept under the carpet

due to excessive stupidity and contrivance,i cannot even imagine where Morrigan's advices leaded the Warden

( "the cure is into the land of far far away ,a nameless land into the west who has nothing but the cure,Warden keep looking in the meantime Solas will take Thedas for the Altmer elves)

This sub plot is just a disgusted noise 

 

 

Flemeth in DAII.

Also I don't think Morrigan or for that matter Leliana found the solution. The HoF has gone to a place where they think they might find a solution, which isn't the same as finding a solution. And I see no reason why Morrigan even with her incomplete knowledge of ancient mysteries couldn't dig up something that might give the HoF a lead where they can try and begin to find a cure for the taint.

I mean if effin Lizardmen and giant demigods made of stone can appear out of the blue, then a cure for a previously thought to be incurable disease shouldn't seem so far fetched.

 

Edit:

or like a previous poster said it is just a cop out and in DA4 we'll find out that trying to cure the taint has turned the HoF into a potted plant which we'll be given and asked to water twice a day. Problem of choices solved.

[AntiChri5]

 

 

Flemeth in DAO clearly said to Aveline that she wasn't capable to help her husband,only the joining would have helped him,so if Flemeth has no idea on how to remove the taint from an infected body,why should Morrigan which is nothing compared to Flemeth ?

No one found a cure among all the high scholar,ancient elves priest ,Evanuris ecc,... and suddendly Morrigan found the solution? 

Oh please,those are the kind of sloppy writing that i would include as the Mary sue syndrome,In fact for the moment it seems that this plot was swept under the carpet

due to excessive stupidity and contrivance,i cannot even imagine where Morrigan's advices leaded the Warden

( "the cure is into the land of far far away ,a nameless land into the west who has nothing but the cure,Warden keep looking in the meantime Solas will take Thedas for the Altmer elves)

This sub plot is just a disgusted noise 

 

****** what?

 

Flemeth said she could not save him, yeah, but there are a few possibilities there. First, Flemeth is telling the truth and she does not have the knowledge required to save him. Second, Flemeth is telling the truth and she has the knowledge to save him but lacks the resources to do so. Third, Flemeth is telling the truth, she is aware of how to remove the taint from a Grey Warden who had it for a while but cannot cure someone minutes from death due to excess Blight. Fourth, Flemeth is lying. She has what she needs to save him but isn't willing to do so.

 

Even if Flemeth doesn't know, it's possible for Morrigan to have a lead (and that's all she had, a lead) on how to find out. Yes, Flemeth is much more powerful then Morrigan. That does not mean Morrigan is completely incapable of ever finding out a single thing Flemeth does not know. that is absurd.

 

We don't know of an Evanuris or ancient elven priests ever studying how to cure the taint within a human. All Morrigan found was a lead and it was in a ****** book. So, clearly, someone else has studied the subject otherwise how the **** would they write a book that contained a lead?

 

This isn't a case of Morrigan showing up, snapping her fingers and curing it.

 

That answers about all of your post I could decipher.

[Fearsome1]

Ah, the Warden, still a source of angst and tension all these years later. I'm not going to say what my own preference would be, either for the Warden's return appearance or not, but Bioware sure has made it perfectly clear that he/she ain't coming back. I empathize with them, but only to a degree as they've already returned Hawke to us and definitely set up the Inquisitor for another appearance.

 

In my estimation, those decisions alone render their position over the Warden somewhat problematic!

[Nixou]

But in Witch Hunt you can play as an Orlesian Warden, so why would she care about them finding a cure?

 

Morrigan's lead exists only in world states where she romanced the Warden and the two remained a couple. My own world state has a lady Warden who had remained good friend with her throughout the story, and when Morrigan mentions the HoF she admits that she doesn't know what her former comrade is doing.

 

I suppose that it doesn't matter in the end: Warden who romanced Morrigan found a lead through her, Warden who didn't found the same lead through other channels, and the writers will worry about figuring out what that lead is when the time comes to pitch Dragon Age: Revolution after the release of DA4's final DLC.

 

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I empathize with them, but only to a degree as they've already returned Hawke to us and definitely set up the Inquisitor for another appearance.

 

 

It's not much how they handled Hawke & Quizzy's fate that I find eyebrow-raising, personally, it's their:

• "The Warden's tale is done and finished, the character has no reason to be brought back" -> go back to write new plot threads where the Warden is involved

policy

[leaguer of one]

 

 

Flemeth in DAO clearly said to Aveline that she wasn't capable to help her husband,only the joining would have helped him,so if Flemeth has no idea on how to remove the taint from an infected body,why should Morrigan which is nothing compared to Flemeth ?

 

 

Key note: Flemeth said she was not capable. That does not mean she did not know other ways to stop the taint. It just means she can't stop it right then and there.

[Mr.House]

At this point I just hope the warden dies in a ditch.

[Dai Grepher]

Yes. The lead is that there is a cure for the taint far to the west of Thedas.

 

Personally, I think the cure is some sort of elvhen magic that purifies the individual or restores the person to an earlier state. And it is probably fixed to whatever location it's in. Meaning, it can't just be brought back to Thedas for everyone to use.

[Aren]

Flemeth in DAII.

 

I was drunk

[Beomer]

I was drunk

 

That's cool man. I'm drunk right now. Anyway no one who's sober can get mixed up between DAO and DA2.

Cheers.

[Aren]

 

Even if Flemeth doesn't know, it's possible for Morrigan to have a lead (and that's all she had, a lead) on how to find out. Yes, Flemeth is much more powerful then Morrigan. That does not mean Morrigan is completely incapable of ever finding out a single thing Flemeth does not know. that is absurd.

 

 

If we were talking about  a normal woman this would have made sense,FLemeth however isn't one,she is an Evanuris with how much? 10000 years of accumulated knowledge?She is kinda like the living ancient elves library of the empire.

It is possible that she lied,but i don't think so,because she said clearly into that conversation that the only cure she know was to become a GW.

also,it seems that the ancient elves contained the taint, but never cured it otherwise the black city wouldn't had remained black until now.

[redxxfox]

Ah, the Warden, still a source of angst and tension all these years later. I'm not going to say what my own preference would be, either for the Warden's return appearance or not, but Bioware sure has made it perfectly clear that he/she ain't coming back. I empathize with them, but only to a degree as they've already returned Hawke to us and definitely set up the Inquisitor for another appearance.

 

In my estimation, those decisions alone render their position over the Warden somewhat problematic!

My thread has nothing to do with whether the warden's coming back or not, I'm just curious what the lead Morrigan was talking about was. Jeez.

[TheExtreamH]

At this point I just hope the warden dies in a ditch.

Oo your so cruel, A Cameo of a Skeleton in a ditch with a note saying "I saved Ferelden" in DA4.

[solomon.kosin]

Any HoF who is alive is away fot the Cure not only Morrigans romance. I had Alistair as a Warden in DAI and alive romanced HoF. Alistair said that she is searching for the cure. Which means that Mirrigan gives the lead to any warden

[Aren]

As far as i'm concerned aside from the Mary sue who got cured for no reason (Fiona) the taint was never cured in living bodies

(aside from the debacle from the writers part of the Kennel masters,where an infected dog survived without any problem,due to a flower).

[Beomer]

Oo your so cruel, A Cameo of a Skeleton in a ditch with a note saying "I saved Ferelden" in DA4.

 

The size of the skeleton should vary depending on the HoF's race. Also if that skeleton romanced someone we also need to have that character besides the skeleton, mourning. And a quest to find out how the Warden died in a ditch would be nice.

 

See HoF fans can find to way to make anything complicated.

[Its Waffle Time]

Her name is Fiona. Knowledge of that could lead to a cure.

 

All Morrigan had to find out was the name.

[Nixou]

See HoF fans can find to way to make anything complicated.

 

 

The writers schrödingered the Warden at the end of Origins, so they have only themselves to blame now that dealing with him/her is as headache-inducing as figuring out Quantum physics' inner workings.

[Aren]

 

The writers schrödingered the Warden at the end of Origins, so they have only themselves to blame now that dealing with him/her is as headache-inducing as figuring out Quantum physics' inner workings.

 

but if you use the strings theories,particularly the M theory,you can basically resolve the issues and find the theory of all,which is kill the Warden So that it will stay dead for everyone

[jedidotflow]

The cure for the taint is becoming a Witcher. The HoF is Geralt.

[MrMrPendragon]

At this point I just hope the warden dies in a ditch.

 

At this point I hope he comes back and steals the DA4 protagonist spot just to make you people miserable. It will please me.

[Nixou]

but if you use the strings theories,particularly the M theory,you can basically resolve the issues and find the theory of all,which is kill the Warden So that it will stay dead for everyone

 

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