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[DarthSliver]

No dude a magic green wave from space enveloped me and like I'm peaceful now. I like understand the reapers. Hey reaper dude I forgive you. Oh reaper dude you need to eat 10 million of us to have a child. That's cool reaper dude we are peaceful and all get along im sure 10 million volunteers can be found the magic green wave made us like aware.

 

People wouldn't just volunteer they would just automatically do it. I am sure the retired people would be the first to do their duty to birth a new Reaper so they are not a drain on galactic society. 

[AlanC9]

Well how about smuggling a few dozen 50 megaton nukes on board to annihilate the Citadel? Does the Catalyst cease to exist? Or does the little brat "assume direct control" of one of the Reapers? I've kind of wondered about that hypothetical.

Let's say you did destroy the Catalyst. Would that even help? Maybe the Reapers suddenly realize that the Catalyst's cycle plan doesn't do them any good, and they reduce all organics to pre-starflight cattle and live happily ever after.

It'd be interesting to have a fail that's even more epic than Refuse, though.

[AlanC9]

People wouldn't just volunteer they would just automatically do it. I am sure the retired people would be the first to do their duty to birth a new Reaper so they are not a drain on galactic society.

Maybe. In George R.R. Martin's A Song for Lya, people volunteer to have their brains eaten by a mold-like colony organism, because that's the only kind of immortality this universe has to offer.

[Ahglock]

People wouldn't just volunteer they would just automatically do it. I am sure the retired people would be the first to do their duty to birth a new Reaper so they are not a drain on galactic society.

Utopia. The collective is all, all is the collective.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Control: Give unlimited power to one man and hope it works out in the end.

But that one man is the one making the decision.

I think Control is the no-brainer.

[WidePaul]

I used to go destroy without hesitation, to have the galaxy free from the threat of the reapers for good, but since leviathan I prefer high ems paragon control. Sure it means my Shep isn't going to get her little blue babies with liara but it also means she can keep the leviathans from getting up to their old tricks again.

[KaiserShep]

I used to go destroy without hesitation, to have the galaxy free from the threat of the reapers for good, but since leviathan I prefer high ems paragon control. Sure it means my Shep isn't going to get her little blue babies with liara but it also means she can keep the leviathans from getting up to their old tricks again.

 

Only thing is, with their thralls gone, their relay inoperable and the Alliance's ability to simply dispose of/destroy the orbs, what can they really do at that point? 

[Killdren88]

I hate that EDI and Geth must die for the Reapers crimes as well, but sadly its what must happen to be rid of the Reapers.

[KaiserShep]

I honestly could take or leave the geth. It's really only EDI that I was ever concerned with.

[WidePaul]

Only thing is, with their thralls gone, their relay inoperable and the Alliance's ability to simply dispose of/destroy the orbs, what can they really do at that point?

Admittedly, probably not much, but seeing as they have been able to avoid being utterly wiped out by the Reapers for millions (or even billions) of years, I'd rather not underestimate them.

[Ahglock]

But that one man is the one making the decision.

I think Control is the no-brainer.

It involves being turned into a reaper. I'll pass. Seriously I wouldn't trust me with unlimited power. I know I'd become what I hate far too quickly. It's a no brainer not to go there for my Shepards as they think they would just become tyrants, the next reaper threat.

[marcelo caldas]

But that one man is the one making the decision.

I think Control is the no-brainer.

 

Starbart: Shepard, here, just kill yourself in this machine, I ensure you, you'll die but you wiil be in control of all reapers, even me.

Shepard: Of course, why not? I don't know why I didn't kill myself the first time Sovereign or Harbinger asked me that. Are you sure if I throw myself at those lightining rods you'll be able to abosorb my mind as I burn in screaming agony?

Starbrat: Don't worry Shepard, we, the reapers, never meant to do you any harm. Thrust me.

Shepard: Ok

[KaiserShep]

Admittedly, probably not much, but seeing as they have been able to avoid being utterly wiped out by the Reapers for millions (or even billions) of years, I'd rather not underestimate them.

 

Well, knowledge is power. Imagine letting everyone know that the very race whose ancestors are responsible for source of the reapers were alive and well on Despoina. That might be interesting. I'd simply give the turians all the intel they needed and let them have fun with it.

[AlanC9]

Starbart: Shepard, here, just kill yourself in this machine, I ensure you, you'll die but you wiil be in control of all reapers, even me.
Shepard: Of course, why not? I don't know why I didn't kill myself the first time Sovereign or Harbinger asked me that. Are you sure if I throw myself at those lightining rods you'll be able to abosorb my mind as I burn in screaming agony?
Starbrat: Don't worry Shepard, we, the reapers, never meant to do you any harm. Thrust me.
Shepard: Ok

We can play that with Destroy too:

Starbrat: Shepard, you can destroy me and the Reapers. All you need to do is break part of your superweapon. Just shoot that tube thingy over there.
Shepard: Sure thing. I'll go ahead and shoot the weapon the whole galaxy's been working on for months. It's not like you'd lie to me about something this important. <bang!>
Crucible: <fizzle>

[Feybrad]

We can play that with Destroy too:

Starbrat: Shepard, you can destroy me and the Reapers. All you need to do is break part of your superweapon. Just shoot that tube thingy over there.
Shepard: Sure thing. I'll go ahead and shoot the weapon the whole galaxy's been working on for months. It's not like you'd lie to me about something this important. <bang!>
Crucible: <fizzle>

 

The Fact that this Logic can be applied to every and all Options was a major Point of Contention with the Endings, if I remember correctly.

[marcelo caldas]

We can play that with Destroy too:

Starbrat: Shepard, you can destroy me and the Reapers. All you need to do is break part of your superweapon. Just shoot that tube thingy over there.
Shepard: Sure thing. I'll go ahead and shoot the weapon the whole galaxy's been working on for months. It's not like you'd lie to me about something this important. <bang!>
Crucible: <fizzle>

 

Yeah, the only diference is that Shepard always shoots everything in 3 games, and never kills himself or quits. 

[WidePaul]

Well, knowledge is power. Imagine letting everyone know that the very race whose ancestors are responsible for source of the reapers were alive and well on Despoina. That might be interesting. I'd simply give the turians all the intel they needed and let them have fun with it.

I'm now imagining the combined fleet hitting the planet with everything they have and the planet slowly breaking apart under the bombardment, that would be cool to see.

[KaiserShep]

I'm now imagining the combined fleet hitting the planet with everything they have and the planet slowly breaking apart under the bombardment, that would be cool to see.

 

Lord High Researcher Fortack would scream internally to see such glorious ground pounding. 

[marcelo caldas]

I'm now imagining the combined fleet hitting the planet with everything they have and the planet slowly breaking apart under the bombardment, that would be cool to see.

 

In fact, that should have been a part of ME3, or several parts. I missed the war as I was playing the game, actualy Shepard didn't fight in the war.

 

When the Quarians shot the reaper, an epic scene for sure, It lacked destruction power of a whole fleet firing, hell, the reaper died intact.

[Former_Fiend]

You know, for all people complain about how many romance threads there are, it really seems to be the "canonize destroy" threads that are taking over.

[Chealec]

Synthesis doesn't kill the Catalyst. The only ending choices that have dialogue indicating that the Catalyst would be destroyed or replaced are Destroy and Control. 

 

Destroy was intended to be the paragon ending and Control the renegade, though the Extended Cut introduced two different versions of Control. On a very low EMS playthrough Shepard will only have one choice at the end of the game. Destroy is the only choice available to a Shepard who chose to destroy the Collector base (a paragon decision) while the Control ending is the only option available to a Shepard who kept the Collector base (a renegade decision). Additionally the game uses Anderson (a paragon) as the avatar of Destroy and the Illusive Man (renegade) as the avatar for Control.

 

That might be the case - but Destroy is far more in keeping with Renegade than Control IMO because of what you have to sacrifice to "win" ... and they're colour coded that way around

[Killdren88]

You know, for all people complain about how many romance threads there are, it really seems to be the "canonize destroy" threads that are taking over.

 

Because unlike romance threads, this is based in the realms of logic.

[LexXxich]

Unless I missed something, there indeed will be a canonised ending for ME trilogy, since there wasn't any save-import functionality announced.

[AlanC9]

Unless I missed something, there indeed will be a canonised ending for ME trilogy, since there wasn't any save-import functionality announced.

The working hypothesis is that they won't need to canonize anything, since we'll be in Andromeda with no way to know how things turned out.

[ArabianIGoggles]

Well, knowledge is power. Imagine letting everyone know that the very race whose ancestors are responsible for source of the reapers were alive and well on Despoina. That might be interesting. I'd simply give the turians all the intel they needed and let them have fun with it.

I'd imagine that the Leviathans have more than just that pulse for planet defense.  And since they are probably the ones that invented mass effect technology, it wouldn't be too much a stretch that they have a relay on their planet.  A race that lasted that long surely would have several contingencies lined up.  I doubt that Desponia is the only planet they currently inhabit.