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[Jeniva]

I'm playing through again. I've only played once before - and I accidentally just ran into synth so restarted and chose Destroy. My reasoning for destroy because it was the only way to get rid of the reapers. Control didn't even come into it for me. 
I play as paragon. 

 

Control: This is exactly what the illusive man was trying to do. The reapers would be sticking around. It didn't make any sense to my shepard to suddenly come round to the idea of keeping the reapers around. It seemed the most 'evil' choice to me - despite the beam being the paragon choice. 

Synth: This one I was umming and arring for a while. We get to keep the AI's geth and EDI about - and hell I love EDI and Legion (ok he's dead anyway). But we are forcing EVERY organic to now be an organic machine thing. Changing the entire galaxy. This is also what Saren wanted to do in ME1 and we fought against him and changed his mind. 

Destroy: I hated having to get rid of all AI because I didn't see them as machines but just another race of organics. But destroying the reapers was the big pro argument here. The other two theories you don't destroy them and we've just played 3 games trying to destroy the buggers. Also shepard lives at the end. 

 

My biggest concern with not destroying the reapers are that one day they will just turn and wipe everyone out again. No way do I trust the reapers in the slightest. 

 

Whats everyone elses thoughts? I'm unsure weather to go synth or destroy on my next run in ME3. I'm still on ME1 on my current shep. 

[fraggle]

On my first run I picked Synthesis because I liked the concept - keeping the peace and understanding each other? Nice. I admit I didn't want to lose the geth and EDI in that run

But seeing what I did there, I immediately reloaded and picked Destroy, haha.

 

Destroy is always the best choice for me, no matter if Paragon or Renegade, no matter if I support synthetics or not, because my reasons for it is that we don't need anything "watching" over us, something that decides over our future for us. We can take care of ourselves, and if not, we at least had the freedom to make these choices for us.

 

So far I didn't want to consider the other choices, but I actually think about choosing Control with my next Shepard, because while we as the players know the outcome, Shepard doesn't. And he can believe he is making the right choice.

 

In the end, you need to decide for yourself what your Shepard would do, I think there are plenty of good reasons to choose any kind of ending

Destroy is easy if you have a Shepard that favors organics. I played one like that recently, and I also didn't activate Legion in this run because she thought it was too dangerous to do so. With the Geth VI that replaces him, trust to the geth is a bit harder to come by imo and you could side with the quarians right then and there on Rannoch, making EDI the only sacrifice, and a good argument for Destroy. One sacrifice for the whole galaxy.

[Jeniva]

Thanks for the reply!

I'm really unsure to be honest. 

I thought Legion was one of the best companions, even though you don't get it for that long really. I don't want the synths to be wiped out but then I don't want the reapers around. If only there was an ending to kill the reapers and keep AI. 

In a way the whole war is AI vs Organics, and how they can never get along. I do half feel the destroy ending is proving that, that they can't live in peace. 

Pisses me off that shep has to die to get the other two endings though. 

[fraggle]

In a way the whole war is AI vs Organics, and how they can never get along. I do half feel the destroy ending is proving that, that they can't live in peace. 

 

Yeah, it might look that way, but you can see it like that: The future now can be all that. There will be new synthetics, and it's entirely up to you if everyone can live in peace

When I'm playing pro-synthetic, I kinda see it as the last sacrifice you have to make in order to make this future a reality.

Also, it is not really Shep's fault that synthetics will be targeted, since this targeting comes with the Crucible.

[Flaine1996]

I pick destroy too... Because as you already stated we have been fighting this war for three whole games just to squish those bastards... and honestly whats stopping the reapers from continuing their harvest? Is it because they got feelings? Theyve been programmed with it for 50k+ years to harvest synthetics are they just gonna stop? Also now that everything has one DNA and connected awareness? does that mean the husks get to remember or will they be like zombified corpses walking around and hurting themselves? I do like the pros of synthesis and control though I mean you get to keep EDI and the geth... but the implications kinda make my head explode... Plus as fraggle said id rather we choose our own future but each their own end of their story... Afterall each shepard can be different and have different reasons for choosing what they do XD 

[Jeniva]

I kind of wish we knew if our end choice in ME3 will have any impact on ME4. Or if bioware said: yeah if shepard lived in me3 you will see him/her again in ME4 - then i'd be all over destroy again. 
 

It's an annoyingly horrible choice. 

I mean anderson seemed set on destroy, and he was the most paragon guy out there. 

I think my main issue is I just don't trust that creepy kid, he is effectively an AI and will want to preserve itself so will always be against destroy.

[fraggle]

I think Bioware made it pretty clear that Shepard's story is over and I reckon that, if at all, we might only get a Codex entry on Shepard, or maybe a tiny conversation on what he/she presumable did. MEA seems to be set very far in the future from the events of the Trilogy, so it would surprise me if there was anything more than that.

[Flaine1996]

Bioware i think has stated ME: A is a clean slate... So highly unlikely for any mention of the ending of the trilogy... or any mention of the trilogy... though i hope i am wrong though....

[Jeniva]

Ok so if MEA is set wayy in the future. Surely the synthesis ending would still impact? wouldn't everything have glowing eyes etc?

[fraggle]

I think many here speculate (or maybe it was even in the leak, I don't know as I stay away from that ) that a ship escaped to Andromeda before the Reaper war ended, so none of the endings would've affected the crew on it. I guess we'll see, I'm sure BW does know they cannot simply pick one ending and base everything off of that... at least I hope

[Jeniva]

I haven't really read / seen much about ME-A, so sorry if anything I'm saying doesn't match up to anything that's been released. 

The EMS rating kind of confuses me too. So if you get the highest you can destroy and survive, yet I've seen loads of people state that destroy is the bad option because of the AI's being wiped. But then again synth is also one that only appears with high EMS. 

I really don't know what I'll choose. 

[fraggle]

No worries, me neither. I'd rather wait and see how they handle it instead of speculating, but I think it could happen the way others are saying.

I seems BW themselves saw Synthesis as the ideal ending. The EMS ties in with Synthesis in so far, that the Crucible is largely intact and the energy it creates in this intact state is sufficient enough to make Synthesis available (that's at least my take on it).

I also think that everyone has to make up their own minds what is a good and bad ending. Personally, to me there is no wrong or right choice, because everyone needs to follow their own reasons as to why they choose something.

 

My guess as to why the high EMS makes surviving possible with Destroy is that while the other two options don't allow Shepard to live, it's a reward for players if they collect enough EMS to actually have Shepard live. Maybe the Crucible being more intact here doesn't affect Shepard's own synthetic parts in his/her body that much, or at all. It seems the wave doesn't affect others with synthetic/techy parts as well.

[Esthlos]

If only there was an ending to kill the reapers and keep AI.

http://www.nexusmods...fect3/mods/66/?

[Jeniva]

unfortunately I play on ps3...I wish I just got it on PC damn it. them mods. 

 

I just don't get how bioware can think everyone will be onboard with accepting the reapers help...after everything.

[themikefest]

 

All the time, every time

 

Why? It gives people a future without the threat of the reapers

[Esthlos]

unfortunately I play on ps3...I wish I just got it on PC damn it. them mods.

 

[themikefest]

I'm playing through again. I've only played once before - and I accidentally just ran into synth so restarted and chose Destroy.

You're not the only one. Look at this thread.

[themikefest]

unfortunately I play on ps3...I wish I just got it on PC damn it. them mods. 

I have a ps3. ps3 master race. Excellent

 

This thread has everything you need to know about MEHEM

[Gago]

Synthesis is a no-brainer for me. The galaxy denizens achieve a "transcendent" state, they have the knowledge of every civilization and their tech and culture in the past billion+ years, the capacities for further achievements and developments are limitless, achieving immortality is a matter of time. The galaxy has never been connected so close. Also, I love the new glowing green eyes.

 

This is my viewpoint, please avoid bashing and stuff. 

[Jeniva]

 

haha! I only got it on ps3 because it was on a big discount for the whole trilogy. but I do wish I had it on pc...those outfits for femshep - AGH.

 

You're not the only one. Look at this thread.

baha. i just didn't realize I had to run in a direction, so just ran straight. then was like OH NO WAIT

 

Synthesis is a no-brainer for me. The galaxy denizens achieve a "transcendent" state, they have the knowledge of every civilization and their tech and culture in the past billion+ years, the capacities for further achievements and developments are limitless, achieving immortality is a matter of time. The galaxy has never been connected so close. Also, I love the new glowing green eyes.

 

This is my viewpoint, please avoid bashing and stuff. 

No hate here. I'm torn between synth and destroy this time. So great to hear about the reasoning behind people who chose synthesis. 

[Jeniva]

I wonder what EDI and Legion would say, given the choices. I mean if you said to them: the reapers will live but so will all AI and organics, they will become synthesis and merged. 
Or we destroy the reapers but all AI will be wiped out in the process

[fraggle]

I wonder what EDI and Legion would say, given the choices. I mean if you said to them: the reapers will live but so will all AI and organics, they will become synthesis and merged. 
Or we destroy the reapers but all AI will be wiped out in the process

 

EDI mourns the death of the geth when you side with the quarians, but also understands your reasoning. Even though she will still think Shepard will always value organics over synthetics if you wiped out the geth.

And EDI is ready to die for Joker. I guess... Destroy does achieve that to a certain extent even though Synthesis would of course be better for her in that case. But she is willing to sacrifice herself, I think.

 

I still assume synthetics would try to promote Synthesis, especially the geth, as their survival instinct would kick in then. EDI might understand if we could explain why Destroy needs to happen, but I'm not sure.

[Jeniva]

EDI mourns the death of the geth when you side with the quarians, but also understands your reasoning. Even though she will still think Shepard will always value organics over synthetics if you wiped out the geth.

And EDI is ready to die for Joker. I guess... Destroy does achieve that to a certain extent even though Synthesis would of course be better for her in that case. But she is willing to sacrifice herself, I think.

 

I still assume synthetics would try to promote Synthesis, especially the geth, as their survival instinct would kick in then. EDI might understand if we could explain why Destroy needs to happen, but I'm not sure.

Yeah I suspect the geth would be on synthesis side. EDI I'm not sure about. 

Also I think if your squadmates had a say, the majority would say destroy. 

[Reorte]

Destroy. Reapers gone, problem solved. Control sounds too risky and Synthesis turns my stomach.

[IndianaJonesYay]

From least fave to most fave:

 

Control: Makes little sense to me. The whole trilogy the story insists the Reapers are independent AI. Yet they are "controlled" by the Catalyst? So are they a slave race? And if you end up controlling them, how can they be AI? The Catalyst at one point says you can no more blame them for harvesting than you can blame fire for burning. Yet they're supposed to have intelligence and free will. Do they subscribe to Thane's religion or something, thinking they're just a tool of the Catalyst? Anyway, control makes little sense to me.

 

Synthesis: it seems this is the one Bioware wants you to pick, but I still find it dissatisfying, if for no other reason than that Shepard has to die. The Catalyst tells you they tried it before, but it didn't work because the other subjects were unwilling, but now, because Shepard is willing, it'll work. Really? And even if so, does Shepard's whole body have to be sacrificed? Give 'em a skin flake; that has as much DNA as bone marrow. Plus, while I like the idea of a synthesized race, it just seems so odd and out there.

 

Destroy: Anderson's a hero. Leviathan informs us that they made a mistake by making the Catalyst. So Destroy is fixing the katrillion-yr-old mistake. Sure, the Catalyst says synthesis is what everything has been leading up to, but how does it know? I'm not a buyer of Indoctrination Theory, mind you. But Destroy does what Shepard sought to do from Day 1. And it's the only one where he/she can live. Yes, it stinks to sacrifice EDI and the Geth, but I think they would both willingly follow through themselves, as Fraggle said. Somehow a little piece of code has to survive somewhere, right? Can't we just plug the Geth back in? :-)

 

Phoenix suggested ending: Destroy, but Cortez, who crashed back in London, has meanwhile found an old F-61 Trident (the one he keeps reminiscing about the whole game?). He pilots it to the passed out Shepard, rescues him and Anderson's body, and sweeps them away in the nick of time. Shepard heals up, and six months later we do the Citadel DLC on the rebuilt Citadel and all live happily ever after at the party. :-)

 

Or, to put it much more succinctly: I vote Destroy. Do Anderson proud. Besides, whom would you most like narrating your ending sequence? Shepard, EDI, or Hackett?