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[TraiHarder]

It would be nice to see a cameo get a sizeable side mission without making an impact on the main story

 

But why couldn't he impact the main story in some way. Why couldn't he be a companion?

 

Its not like hes locked away for ever its you simply made a choice that now is showing its consequence. I'm not saying make him game changing ground breaking. But maybe things like Fade related things become more clear thanks to his power an knowledge. If you don't have them then youll simply have to figure them out another way.

[AresKeith]

But why couldn't he impact the main story in some way. Why couldn't he be a companion?

 

Because he has a 33% chance of appearing in the game

[TraiHarder]

Because he has a 33% chance of appearing in the game

Ok and? Its called a consequence to the choice you made. An he actually has a 100% chance due to the keep.

 

Just because they have a low chance of being in the game doesn't mean they cant have a future that impacts the game. If you didn't send him to Tevinter then it shouldn't matter to do your story will just be a different one without him simple as that.

[Absafraginlootly]

I don't think they're going to have mulitple versions of a companion, and if there's only one version then the high chance of them not even being there makes it seem not worth it to me.

 

They're probably not going to start making companions who might not even be there depending on previous games, and if they did I can't help but think there are more interesting characters they could do that with.

[TraiHarder]

I don't think they're going to have mulitple versions of a companion, and if there's only one version then the high chance of them not even being there makes it seem not worth it to me.

 

They're probably not going to start making companions who might not even be there depending on previous games, and if they did I can't help but think there are more interesting characters they could do that with.

 

there wouldn't be multiple versions just the one that was sent to Tevinter. An worth what lol either hes there or hes not its simple.

 

An well I don't see you coming up with any ideas?

[AresKeith]

Ok and? Its called a consequence to the choice you made. An he actually has a 100% chance due to the keep.

 

Just because they have a low chance of being in the game doesn't mean they cant have a future that impacts the game. If you didn't send him to Tevinter then it shouldn't matter to do your story will just be a different one without him simple as that.

 

No he has a 33% or 66% if they made the possessed version an optional boss in the next game

 

And consequences to your choice should not affect your companions in a series where each game is a standalone in it's own right 

[Absafraginlootly]

there wouldn't be multiple versions just the one that was sent to Tevinter. An worth what lol either hes there or hes not its simple.

 

An well I don't see you coming up with any ideas?

 

Companions are a major part of bioware games and take up a lot of resources, spending those resources on Tevinter Feynriel, who won't be present in many playthroughs, does not seem worth it to me. Better they spend those resources on a companion who is always available. Obviously this is my personnel opinion.

 

I think it would be better if Feynriel was an npc, perhaps with a quest. A quest would take far less resources but could still be well written and show consequences.

[AresKeith]

Companions are a major part of bioware games and take up a lot of resources, spending those resources on Tevinter Feynriel, who won't be present in many playthroughs, does not seem worth it to me. Better they spend those resources on a companion who is always available. Obviously this is my personnel opinion.

 

I think it would be better if Feynriel was an npc, perhaps with a quest. A quest would take far less resources but could still be well written and show consequences.

 

That's why I say I hope he gets a sizable side plot of his own instead of being a Connor cameo  

[TraiHarder]

No he has a 33% or 66% if they made the possessed version an optional boss in the next game

 

And consequences to your choice should not affect your companions in a series where each game is a standalone in it's own right 

 

Uh no have you ever used the Keep bruh? I guess not.

 

An no each game isn't standalone if you haven't noticed its one big story yea shocking right?

[AresKeith]

Now I'm more convinced your just trolling at this point 

[TraiHarder]

Companions are a major part of bioware games and take up a lot of resources, spending those resources on Tevinter Feynriel, who won't be present in many playthroughs, does not seem worth it to me. Better they spend those resources on a companion who is always available. Obviously this is my personnel opinion.

 

I think it would be better if Feynriel was an npc, perhaps with a quest. A quest would take far less resources but could still be well written and show consequences.

No they aren't lmao you can literally choose throughout this entire series to take people in or kick them out or make them mad enough to leave. So are they all also a waste of resources seeing as they aren't present in anything after they leave? Because that's what your saying.

 

I didn't get Fenris my first couple of DA2 play through do to how my characters personality was an how I role played them.

 

So was Fenris a waste of resources?

 

The story will go on with or without certain or just about all champions there is no difference here.

[TraiHarder]

Now I'm more convinced your just trolling at this point 

I'm trolling because I can see just like everyone else that with each new game we don't get a entirely new story or a entirely new world? So that obviously mean they are not standalone the story came from each pervious game please know what your talking about before you call me a troll.

[AresKeith]

I'm trolling because I can see just like everyone else that with each new game we don't get a entirely new story or a entirely new world? So that obviously mean they are not standalone the story came from each pervious game please know what your talking about before you call me a troll.

 

Umm a standalone game can happen in the same world, and each game does have a story of it own

[TraiHarder]

Umm a standalone game can happen in the same world, and each game does have a story of it own

Each are connected dude without one the other would not have happened other than obviously the first. meaning they are not standalone an they are connected.

[Absafraginlootly]

No they aren't lmao you can literally choose throughout this entire series to take people in or kick them out or make them mad enough to leave. So are they all also a waste of resources seeing as they aren't present in anything after they leave? Because that's what your saying.

 

I didn't get Fenris my first couple of DA2 play through do to how my characters personality was an how I role played them.

 

So was Fenris a waste of resources?

 

The story will go on with or without certain or just about all champions there is no difference here.

 

They are in the game whether you choose to recruit them or not. A character being able to leave as a result of actions you take is a part of that games story. A character never showing up because of an action a different pc took in a side quest of another game is not part of that individual games story and a waste of a companion slot.

 

And yes, companions are a major part of the game.

 

If you consider Feynriel to be worth the resources other wise spent on a different companion than that's valid. Other people don't and that's also valid.

[TraiHarder]

They are in the game whether you choose to recruit them or not. A character being able to leave as a result of actions you take is a part of that games story. A character never showing up because of an action a different pc took in a side quest of another game is not part of that individual games story and a waste of a companion slot.

 

And yes, companions are a major part of the game.

 

If you consider Feynriel to be worth the resources other wise spent on a different companion than that's valid. Other people don't and that's also valid.

 

No your just not valid because you contradict yourself an you got caught.

 

everything you said can also apply to Feynriel. He will either be there or not just like those companions you don't recruit. He is either in Tevinter or not which is part of the game story. As for him wasting a slot your acting as if they ever have a set amount of companions lmao. I could say the same about Fenris being a waste of a slot seeing as I didn't get to him until my third time around an fully not knowing there ever was another companion beyond the ones I had.

 

An they add on to the Story in their own respect you can call them major if you want but sadly the truth is what it is they story will continue without most of your party. They can either be there or not just as Feynriel can be there or not.  

[Dean_the_Young]

 

They call them Pride, Envy, Terror, an Desire demons for a reason BECAUSE THEY ARE DEMONS. Demons want to do harm an are twisted an corrupted Spirits are pure for the most part as long as those that surround them are pure an have the same intentions as they do.

 

 

 

This approaches tautological. They are called demons because they are demons doesn't actually address the issue I'm raising- especially when you second sentence returns to that the distinction is of character, not composition.

 

Again- good and bad people, still being people. Calling bad people demons, while a distinction, isn't actually a difference in terms of what they are.

 

 

 

They don't call them demons because they don't like them they call them demons because that is what they are. They are no longer spirits.

 

 

 

Not liking them is precisely why they call them demons- and associate the demons categorically with negative emotions, while spirits as associated with positive things that are 'good.'

 

The Chantry's dogma is based on 'elements we like/don't like'. Which is fine for categorizing a species into subgroups you interact with- but doesn't make the subgroups different species, and doesn't adequately address the many sorts of spirits the Chantry never knows or interacts with. 

Modifié par BioWareMod08, 05 octobre 2015 - 11:32 .
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[TobiTobsen]

[TraiHarder]

 

 

Incorrect. What I'm telling you is that the difference between a spirit and a demon isn't what you seem to be arguing against- and that Solas's usage of the term still reflects the character dynamic.
 

 

This approaches tautological. They are called demons because they are demons doesn't actually address the issue I'm raising- especially when you second sentence returns to that the distinction is of character, not composition.

 

Again- good and bad people, still being people. Calling bad people demons, while a distinction, isn't actually a difference in terms of what they are.

 

 

Not liking them is precisely why they call them demons- and associate the demons categorically with negative emotions, while spirits as associated with positive things that are 'good.'

 

The Chantry's dogma is based on 'elements we like/don't like'. Which is fine for categorizing a species into subgroups you interact with- but doesn't make the subgroups different species, and doesn't adequately address the many sorts of spirits the Chantry never knows or interacts with.

 

 

 

 

 

You have yet to give your own counter argument as to what categorizes a Demon from a spirit when I have already given you a way to categorize them. Yet you cant get the simple fact that depending on what a Demon or Spirit gains their source of power from determines weather or not they are a Demon or a Spirit.

[TraiHarder]

I love that episode omg.

[electrifried]

Meh Feynriel would be one of the most boring characters to bring back to the series. Honestly hardly even remembered who he was. 

[Heimdall]

I will say that Feynriel, following the Tevinter ending to his quest, has the potential to be part of a very interesting sidequest. Maybe something involving exploring the Fade.

But a companion? No, Bioware wouldn't and shouldn't make a companion dependent on choices in a previous game. Unlike Mass Effect, Dragon Age games are supposed to be more standalone adventures with loosely linked plots. Besides that, Campanions represent heavy resource investments, too much to lock one behind a choice from two games ago.

[Reznore57]

I will say that Feynriel, following the Tevinter ending to his quest, has the potential to be part of a very interesting sidequest. Maybe something involving exploring the Fade.
 

 

I'm meh about the fade because well...dreamers works like spirits or demons , they can be in the fade awake and influence people .

What I find interesting is the fact he is a dreamer , of elven blood , and from the South.

Dreamers are really rare now , and Tevinter is really fond of them .

So what could happen to Feynriel , his bloodline is valuable because highly magical and the dreamer thing , but his status kind of suck ...

I can imagine some Altus would want to have his blood in the family , but not "officially".

[GoldenGail3]

I'll join you. It seems reasonable (I need to be told to go to bed... I can't even argue...)

[Heimdall]

I'm meh about the fade because well...dreamers works like spirits or demons , they can be in the fade awake and influence people .
What I find interesting is the fact he is a dreamer , of elven blood , and from the South.
Dreamers are really rare now , and Tevinter is really fond of them .
So what could happen to Feynriel , his bloodline is valuable because highly magical and the dreamer thing , but his status kind of suck ...
I can imagine some Altus would want to have his blood in the family , but not "officially".

Didn't he say he had been apprenticed in his act 3 letter? I don't remember, but if he was able to keep a lid on his elf heritage he's probably accumulated quite a bit of influence now with his abilities. He may never be a magister but still...

Inevitably though, a plot line involving him will probably involve the Fade somehow.