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[VilniusNastavnik]

Ok so.. Spec'd Varric out to be 100% Crit Chance with 150 ish Crit Damage.. Vinsomer, Nightmare + Full Trials, Level 21, dropped faster than a rock in the ocean. Not as quickly as Kennedy's Vid, but we can attribute that to Bianca being weaker than any of the T3..T4 Bows in the game. Think I like the Artificer a lot better now. Certainly better than the tempest. Especially spamming Stealth + Leaping shot stealth upgrade + Long shot.

I'd have recorded it but I do not have any screen capture software. 

[KennedyCZW]

Ok so.. Spec'd Varric out to be 100% Crit Chance with 150 ish Crit Damage.. Vinsomer, Nightmare + Full Trials, Level 21, dropped faster than a rock in the ocean. Not as quickly as Kennedy's Vid, but we can attribute that to Bianca being weaker than any of the T3..T4 Bows in the game. Think I like the Artificer a lot better now. Certainly better than the tempest. Especially spamming Stealth + Leaping shot stealth upgrade + Long shot.

I'd have recorded it but I do not have any screen capture software. 

 

yes, I find artificer are more fun than assassin rogue and tempest rogue/archer

[KennedyCZW]

Ok so.. Spec'd Varric out to be 100% Crit Chance with 150 ish Crit Damage.. Vinsomer, Nightmare + Full Trials, Level 21, dropped faster than a rock in the ocean. Not as quickly as Kennedy's Vid, but we can attribute that to Bianca being weaker than any of the T3..T4 Bows in the game. Think I like the Artificer a lot better now. Certainly better than the tempest. Especially spamming Stealth + Leaping shot stealth upgrade + Long shot.

I'd have recorded it but I do not have any screen capture software. 

 

Tbh, Bianca is the strongest bow in game ,if I on pc ,I definitely use cheat engine to make Bianca available for the inquisitor ,despite of lack of masterwork slot ,but it has the most offence and utility slot ,even more than the bug axe of dragon hunter ...

http://imgur.com/a/ze5fQ

[VilniusNastavnik]

Think next time I play an archer, ill go Artificer for opportunity knocks then put points into the other trees instead.

You find any of the other Passives or Skills of any real use? I found elemental mines to be situation at best on the Hunter MP.. Though they might come in handy when getting deepstalker rushed in caves. Or a panic button since they would all crit. hmmm.. might look into seeing about making Bianca Available.. just gotta work out how to do it on cheat engine. 

[KennedyCZW]

Think next time I play an archer, ill go Artificer for opportunity knocks then put points into the other trees instead.

You find any of the other Passives or Skills of any real use? I found elemental mines to be situation at best on the Hunter MP.. Though they might come in handy when getting deepstalker rushed in caves. Or a panic button since they would all crit. hmmm.. might look into seeing about making Bianca Available.. just gotta work out how to do it on cheat engine. 

 

opportunity knock work well with cheapshot ,opportunity knock reduce CD duration and cheap-shot regain stamina for every crit ,and you must have malika guard because it +20% atk and flanking it not big of a deal for archer  with 100% crit ,you basically doesn't have CD and infinite stamina

[VilniusNastavnik]

opportunity knock work well with cheapshot ,opportunity knock reduce CD duration and cheap-shot regain stamina for every crit ,and you must have malika guard because it +20% atk and flanking it not big of a deal for archer  with 100% crit ,you basically doesn't have CD and infinite stamina

What about the other artificer skills / passives, found them useful? 

[KennedyCZW]

What about the other artificer skills / passives, found them useful? 

 

take them down give whole party 5% crit chance and trick of all trade 10% damage bonus

[VilniusNastavnik]

I'm curious as to what accessories you have on Varric. 

 

Do you have some crit chance rings or something?

 

Only way I can get 100% is if I trade off the crit damage for Crit chance on Bianca. 

 

Sorry, I'm just trying to work out where you pulled 40% crit chance from. 

[KennedyCZW]

I'm curious as to what accessories you have on Varric. 

Do you have some crit chance rings or something?

Only way I can get 100% is if I trade off the crit damage for Crit chance on Bianca. 

Sorry, I'm just trying to work out where you pulled 40% crit chance from. 

 

ring of slicing x2 I dupe it from storage and mask of duchess

[VilniusNastavnik]

ah. That.. that would do it. 

I got Varric in T3 skirmisher helmet at the moment, If you use Ice dragon parts, you can get more Damage.. bout 3%. But that would require you to use cheat engine to get enough ice dragon parts and you are on console.. or can you take all bar one item from hakkon's skull, leave and return, rinse and repeat like you can with farming veil quartz? 

Also, Prowler armor + Prowler arms and Hunter coat legs will allow you to get 43 Cunning. Would save putting any crit chance on bianca at all.. maybe.. ill need to check that once I get once I finish the winter palace in this run through. 

[KennedyCZW]

ah. That.. that would do it. 

I got Varric in T3 skirmisher helmet at the moment, If you use Ice dragon parts, you can get more Damage.. bout 3%. But that would require you to use cheat engine to get enough ice dragon parts and you are on console.. or can you take all bar one item from hakkon's skull, leave and return, rinse and repeat like you can with farming veil quartz? 

Also, Prowler armor + Prowler arms and Hunter coat legs will allow you to get 43 Cunning. Would save putting any crit chance on bianca at all. 

for me I'm using skin that stalk (mage version) which give 20cunning+20willpower ,cos 43 cunning seem too much and you cant exceed 100% ,if possible try mod Bianca and cretahl vitaar for ur inquisitor ,the best material to slot Bianca is ice dragon hide and imbued tusket hide ,if possible with all this you might have the most powerful character in game ,why ring of slicing > superb ring of crit chance ,because you already reach 100% crit chance ,you might use crit damage+ superb ring crit chance ,if bonus stat for inquisitor u might even have 200% critical damage and 100%crit chance ,too bad console couldn't mod T.T

[VilniusNastavnik]

for me I'm using skin that stalk (mage version) which give 20cunning+20willpower ,cos 43 cunning seem too much and you cant exceed 100% ,if possible try mod Bianca and cretahl vitaar for ur inquisitor ,the best material to slot Bianca is ice dragon hide and imbued tusket hide ,if possible with all this you might have the most powerful character in game ,why ring of slicing > superb ring of crit chance ,because you already reach 100% crit chance ,you might use crit damage+ superb ring crit chance ,if bonus stat for inquisitor u might even have 200% critical damage and 100%crit chance ,too bad console couldn't mod T.T

Hmm, I can see the benefit of willpower for magic resistance. Yeah, Mentioned the T4 components because your bianca's limbs was made with T3 leather in the crit chance slot, 14% vs 16%. 

Might run the numbers to see if it is possible to get max crit before touching bianca. Would definitely be interesting. I'll get back to you on that. 

Yeah, my Qunari Tempest Archer uses Cretahl Vitaar. I also use the Grypon mail because I cannot stand the look of the the tailcoat. 

[InquisitorPotato]

Me testing if Tempest focus can still 1 shot any dragon after they patched it. 

[KennedyCZW]

Hmm, I can see the benefit of willpower for magic resistance. Yeah, Mentioned the T4 components because your bianca's limbs was made with T3 leather in the crit chance slot, 14% vs 16%. 

Might run the numbers to see if it is possible to get max crit before touching bianca. Would definitely be interesting. I'll get back to you on that. 

Yeah, my Qunari Tempest Archer uses Cretahl Vitaar. I also use the Grypon mail because I cannot stand the look of the the tailcoat. 

 

you got the wrong idea, I use willpower instead of dex because willpower does also increase atk and provide magic resistance ,and willpower increase atk in all class ...

[PawsPause]

here you go artificer archer with 100% crit chance and what TC mean ?


https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be

Did you dupe power amulets? For a second I saw the whole dual wield tree unlocked. Not that I'm descrediting you for skill, but it would be easier to achieve high cunning stats and dex unlocking all passive in each tree. I changed my loadout for more cunning, and I hit 100% but my critical damage is low even with 2 crit damage rings. It was better damage when I just focused on pure dex and attack with battlemage armor and at least 50% crit chance on my bow with a few cunning passives to increase it to 71% crit chance.

[KennedyCZW]

Did you dupe power amulets? For a second I saw the whole dual wield tree unlocked. Not that I'm descrediting you for skill, but it would be easier to achieve high cunning stats and dex unlocking all passive in each tree. I changed my loadout for more cunning, and I hit 100% but my critical damage is low even with 2 crit damage rings. It was better damage when I just focused on pure dex and attack with battlemage armor and at least 50% crit chance on my bow with a few cunning passives to increase it to 71% crit chance.

watch my bow it was combination of crit chance+crit damage ,I couldn't do pure crit chance/crit damage ...the bow crit chance is 36% and crit damage 21% instead of those picture bow that I previous poss that have 50%crit chance or 90%crit damage ...

[VilniusNastavnik]

Did you dupe power amulets? For a second I saw the whole dual wield tree unlocked. Not that I'm descrediting you for skill, but it would be easier to achieve high cunning stats and dex unlocking all passive in each tree. I changed my loadout for more cunning, and I hit 100% but my critical damage is low even with 2 crit damage rings. It was better damage when I just focused on pure dex and attack with battlemage armor and at least 50% crit chance on my bow with a few cunning passives to increase it to 71% crit chance.

They are indeed all unlocked. Way too many talents unlocked for a non dupe. Just by going off what I can see, he has at the very least, used 36 talents. Max available is what.. 27 from levels, 1 from perks and another 3 from Amulets of power.. so 31... Still 5 shy of 36 minimum. Especially at level 21.



 

 

Nope I didn't ...watch my bow it was combination of crit chance+crit damage ,I couldn't do pure crit chance/crit damage ...the bow crit chance is 36% and crit damage 21% instead of those picture bow that I previous poss that have 50%crit chance or 90%crit damage ...

Gonna need you to run me through where all your stats are coming from.

No matter how many times I run the numbers, I fall short. The stats do not match up with what your video's show. 

Vitaar:
9% C. Chance, 6% attack, rest irrelevant

Armor:
20 cunning, 20 willpower, rest irrelevant

Bow:
28 attack, 21 C.Damage, 36 C. Chance, 12 cunning

Rings:
2x Slicing (10% crit, 20% damage)

Amulet:
20% attack, 10 dexterity, rest irrelevant. 

Then comes the Talents.. Even with all talents unlocked, the numbers fall short of what you have. 

Your artificer video shows 63 Dexterity not 50, and 65 cunning not 66, Willpower also falls 3 short, Attack 106 not 86, Crit damage, 114 not 121. 

After adding in the base attributes as shown on your artificer video, the only way that I could come close is by changing the slicing rings to Crit chance rings. Crit chance 102, Crit damage 115, attack, 94. Still not the same as what you show. But a lot closer. And still unable to account for the base stat whereabouts. 
 

[PawsPause]

Yea I'm still not getting anywhere close. The amulets had to have been duped. If that's the case that would make a very op character. You could seriously solo the whole game with all the gadgets at your disposal and high stats with ease. With stats like these any Dragon would be a joke with a rogue. Even with my original loadout, it was more than enough to solo dragons. What's more impressive is Soloing the Joh campaign, fighting the group of hakkonites in the swamp.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Yea I'm still not getting anywhere close. The amulets had to have been duped. If that's the case that would make a very op character. You could seriously solo the whole game with all the gadgets at your disposal and high stats with ease. With stats like these any Dragon would be a joke with a rogue. Even with my original loadout, it was more than enough to solo dragons. What's more impressive is Soloing the Joh campaign, fighting the group of hakkonites in the swamp.

Yeah lol. I can "solo" dragons on nightmare, with Varric doing all the work. Similar build to his, just with superior Prowler armor and Bianca decked out for critical chance to spam abilities. Takes a bit longer, but still drops within 30.. 40 seconds. 

[PawsPause]

Here's my take on Hakkon Wintersbreath. He's got some buggy health.

[KennedyCZW]

Yeah lol. I can "solo" dragons on nightmare, with Varric doing all the work. Similar build to his, just with superior Prowler armor and Bianca decked out for critical chance to spam abilities. Takes a bit longer, but still drops within 30.. 40 seconds. 

 

 

They are indeed all unlocked. Way too many talents unlocked for a non dupe. Just by going off what I can see, he has at the very least, used 36 talents. Max available is what.. 27 from levels, 1 from perks and another 3 from Amulets of power.. so 31... Still 5 shy of 36 minimum. Especially at level 21.



 

 

Gonna need you to run me through where all your stats are coming from.

No matter how many times I run the numbers, I fall short. The stats do not match up with what your video's show. 

Vitaar:
9% C. Chance, 6% attack, rest irrelevant

Armor:
20 cunning, 20 willpower, rest irrelevant

Bow:
28 attack, 21 C.Damage, 36 C. Chance, 12 cunning

Rings:
2x Slicing (10% crit, 20% damage)

Amulet:
20% attack, 10 dexterity, rest irrelevant. 

Then comes the Talents.. Even with all talents unlocked, the numbers fall short of what you have. 

Your artificer video shows 63 Dexterity not 50, and 65 cunning not 66, Willpower also falls 3 short, Attack 106 not 86, Crit damage, 114 not 121. 

After adding in the base attributes as shown on your artificer video, the only way that I could come close is by changing the slicing rings to Crit chance rings. Crit chance 102, Crit damage 115, attack, 94. Still not the same as what you show. But a lot closer. And still unable to account for the base stat whereabouts. 
 

you can reach that stat ,you forget about the bonus stat in-game  great analysis

[VilniusNastavnik]

you can reach that stat ,you forget about the bonus stat in-game  great analysis

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I completely forgot about the Bonus' in the Emerald Graves. Been 10 months since I visited there. I'm actually just doing that region now on my latest. 

You get +10 cunning from the Villa, What other ones.. Isn't there a chest somewhere in there that adds +10 dexterity? Gonna need to add that to my spreadsheet. 

[KennedyCZW]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I completely forgot about the Bonus' in the Emerald Graves. Been 10 months since I visited there. I'm actually just doing that region now on my latest. 

You get +10 cunning from the Villa, What other ones.. Isn't there a chest somewhere in there that adds +10 dexterity? Gonna need to add that to my spreadsheet. 

there 4stage u can get bonus stat:

1) jaw of hakkon(Ameridian memories) 6pt

2) before skyhold(envy dogma )​ 6pt

3)villa cunning 10pt

4) inside the veil

[VilniusNastavnik]

there 4stage u can get bonus stat:

1) jaw of hakkon(Ameridian memories) 6pt

2) before skyhold(envy dogma )​ 6pt

3)villa cunning 10pt

4) inside the veil

Well, that is a bummer.. need to side with the templars to get 6 abilities. 

I take it you sided with the templars then?

[KennedyCZW]

Well, that is a bummer.. need to side with the templars to get 6 abilities. 

I take it you sided with the templars then?

 

yes....really hope bioware give the inquisitor to use crossbow ,no bow in game stat can compare with Bianca ,really sad