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[Felis Menari]

Its not broken, you made the decisions that gave more points to Vivienne and she got elected, it is working just fine.
You can change it in the Keep for the next game.

By broken, I meant it was terrible, and it is. There's no transparency, and things that shouldn't affect the divine election do.

[Gervaise]

With me it was often just a simple matter of whether I supported someone at the war table or not.

I had a run where I allied with mages, united Celene and Briala, banished the Wardens and got Leliana as Divine.    Then I changed my mind, went back and voted for Cassandra and got her.

Another run I conscripted the mages, put Briala on the throne, banished the Wardens, forgot to vote for Cassandra and got Vivienne as Divine.   Went back, voted for Cassandra and got her as I wished.  (Leliana was hardened on this run)

I've yet to finish my allied Templar run but on my conscripted Templar run, I put Briala on the throne, kept the Wardens, softened Leliana and got her as Divine.

I'm usually pretty neutral about the Chantry, neither totally rubbishing it or supporting it.    All the above were with a non-believer Herald.

With only believer Herald that I've finished to date, I conscripted the mages, put Briala on the throne, kept the Wardens and softened Leliana.   She became Divine which is what I wanted as I was romancing Cassandra.

[President of Boom]

I sided with the mages. I mocked Mother Giselle and denounced both the Chantry and the Maker. I didn't do any quests for Vivienne--I actually spoke with her a total of maybe three times. I didn't actively support any of the candidates and I generally let the Chantry do its thing without me. At the end of my playthrough Leliana became the Divine.

If I do exactly the same thing again but this time on the side of templars instead of mages, whom can I expect to get as the new Divine?

[Arlee]

I sided with the mages. I mocked Mother Giselle and denounced both the Chantry and the Maker. I didn't do any quests for Vivienne--I actually spoke with her a total of maybe three times. I didn't actively support any of the candidates and I generally let the Chantry do its thing without me. At the end of my playthrough Leliana became the Divine.

If I do exactly the same thing again but this time on the side of templars instead of mages, whom can I expect to get as the new Divine?

 

Well there are a bunch of other things which come into play as well, like what you do with the Gery Wardens, what you do at the Winter Palace, I think even the whole well thing has some points, and then there are a ton of points through various dialogue choices. So it's hard to say for sure who you would end up with.

 

I've actually only ever seen the war table mission for Viv, I didn't even know there was one for Leliana. Never do the one for Viv though because I don't want her as Divine.

[Wulfram]

There isn't a war table mission for supporting Leliana, you can just support her through dialogue.  There is one for Cassandra but I think you need to take a dialogue option that requires the Noble knowledge perk or something to unlock it.

[Ryzaki]

Yeah I wish there was a wartable mission for Leliana sadly there is not. Just cass and Vivi have missions.

[Carmen_Willow]

I went after the templars instead of mages in my second run through the game; I just finished (minus Trespasser). That is the one and only thing I did differently that should impact the divine election, compared to my first run through the game where Leliana became divine (which was my intention). I made all of the usual pro mage choices, so does recruiting the templars really lock out Leliana as a divine choice? Regardless, I got screwed with Vivienne as my divine this run (worst possible outcome in my mind).

As such, I have no choice but to label the system that determines who becomes divine as absolutely terrible. I don't have a save far back enough to at least try and get Cassandra as divine, so now I feel like this entire playthrough, in a way, is ******. Well, looks like I'm never recruiting the templars again....ugh.

Did you do the "help Cassandra become divine" quest?

[In Exile]

I don't remember the conversations I've had specifically (not to mention I find it frustrating that I have to be careful about each dialogue choice in specific conversations that shouldn't affect the divine selection realistically). I have been mindful not to support any other Divine in convo in any way, but I've done this in previous Pt as well and I haven't seen a difference. From looking at the wiki, it appears my main problem is that I get everything else done quickly and talk with everyone else before Leliana's final quest triggers. Last time I got her quest very late in the game like before the final mission or something, and I suspect it had something to do with that. The wiki also says that sometimes the game just bugs out and picks the wrong divine for no apparent reason, and I wouldn't be surprised if I've just been unlucky in that regard. But meh. I'm using the wiki alongside this PT and if I don't get her again I'm just givine up

 

It's more than just not supporting anyone - a big problem is also saying things re: the Chantry. If you're not going to go all in on the mages, then it becomes a bit of a balancing act in how much you have to criticize the Chantry as broken to push things toward Leliana. 

[Felis Menari]

Did you do the "help Cassandra become divine" quest?

Well, I guess I didn't make it clear in my previous posts. I never did the operations for supporting Cass or Viv as divine. I supported only Leliana as divine.

[katerinafm]

It's more than just not supporting anyone - a big problem is also saying things re: the Chantry. If you're not going to go all in on the mages, then it becomes a bit of a balancing act in how much you have to criticize the Chantry as broken to push things toward Leliana. 

 

Yeah, unfortunately. I am just now in the point in the game where I have to be extremely careful what I say in conversations while consulting the wiki. I wouldn't be surprised if I still don't get Leliana as Divine though, ha.

[kimgoold]

I really hate this feature of the game! I preferred the DAO version Harrowmont/Bhelen, you could back both, switch back and forth and choose one at the last minute (just an example). 

 

Best luck I had, I hardened Leliana, didn't recruit Vivi and Disbanded Templars .. ( reunited C&B kept Grey Wardens) I got Leliana and kept mainstream support and could still free mages with Divine Leliana.