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[NeverlandHunter]

The Dragon Age series does a pretty good job making decisions morally gray, but some are definitely more difficult to make than others. I've had minutes go by where I've just watched the screen debating how I wanted to proceed. These are the hardest decisions I've had to make playing Dragon Age,

 

• Whether or not to make Cole more human or more spirit (I thought more human was simply the best decision for awhile, but after playing Trespasser I'm conflicted)

 

• To kill or not to kill the Architect (I expect this decision to make some sort of impact in the next game!)

 

• Whether to allow Avernus to live (with ethical experiments) or kill him

 

• Bhelen vs Harrowmont (I easily picked Harrowmont my first play through, but after seeing the epilogue slides I really doubted that decision... so I picked Bhelen the next time... and then I played the Dwarf Noble Origin and it made the decision really hard!)

 

• To kill or not to kill Anders (it's easy to hate Anders, harder to decide if he deserves a quick death)

I suppose some of the other decisions were difficult depending on how I was roleplaying, but for the most part I'm pro-mage and I lean towards "goody-two-shoes" and everyone deserves a second chance. The wartable operations could also be decidedly difficult too, but their outcomes never seemed liked they'd matter very much. It seems like Origins had the hardest decisions, at least for me, what about you? What were the toughest decisions you'd have to make in the games (other than choosing a name XD)?

 

Edit: There are Trespasser spoilers in the comments! Read at your own risk.

[Andraste_Reborn]

- choosing the Dark Ritual for the first time when I didn't know how the game ended or what would happen in advance. If my Warden had known how Archdemons were killed, she probably wouldn't have made Alistair king and herself queen, but as it was she'd painted herself into a corner and felt as if she had no alternative but to trust Morrigan.

 

- Whether to execute Anders or not. My 'canon' Hawke was pro-mage and good friends with him, but also rivalmancing Sebastian. After several minutes of literally pacing the floor trying to decide, she threw him out of the party instead. So, yeah, that didn't work out so well for her relationship ...

 

- Leaving Hawke in the Fade. Not out of any particular love for Stroud, but because I just couldn't see my Hawke letting anyone else - let alone the man who saved her beloved sister from certain death - stay behind. And then Varric said 'where's Hawke?' and I felt awful.

[Former_Fiend]

Hawke or Loghain, who stays behind in the Fade. 

 

That is the hardest decision I've ever had to make in a video game.

[Melbella]

Hmm....

 

DAO:

 

Whether or not to do the DR

Whether to kill or recruit Loghain

Bhelen or Harrowmont was tough the first time around, but now I almost always pick Bhelen (even though he's a dirtbag, he's better for the dwarves)

 

DAA:

 

I flip a coin on whether to kill or recruit Velanna

 

DA2:

 

Anders, not just whether to kill him or not, but whether to let him help or tell him to get lost

 

DAI

 

Cole human or spirit becomes tougher the more consequences I see for each option

Solas (to hunt or help) at the end of Trespasser

[NeverlandHunter]

- choosing the Dark Ritual for the first time when I didn't know how the game ended or what would happen in advance. If my Warden had known how Archdemons were killed, she probably wouldn't have made Alistair king and herself queen, but as it was she'd painted herself into a corner and felt as if she had no alternative but to trust Morrigan.

 

- Whether to execute Anders or not. My 'canon' Hawke was pro-mage and good friends with him, but also rivalmancing Sebastian. After several minutes of literally pacing the floor trying to decide, she threw him out of the party instead. So, yeah, that didn't work out so well for her relationship ...

 

- Leaving Hawke in the Fade. Not out of any particular love for Stroud, but because I just couldn't see my Hawke letting anyone else - let alone the man who saved her beloved sister from certain death - stay behind. And then Varric said 'where's Hawke?' and I felt awful.

Oh yes, the first time you had too choose whether or not to do the Dark Ritual was sooo hard. Morrigan probably waited a good 10 minutes while I weighed my options. In the end I decided it'd be fitting for my hero to go out with a bang... little did I know a romanced Alistair would make that sacrifice for her (definitely not bitter about that anymore  ). 

That sucks, that decision is hard enough without Sebastian breathing down your neck!

Stroud, it was easily Stroud for me... now if it had been Alistair... I don't think I could of made that decision. I might have flipped heads or tails for it!

 

Hawke or Loghain, who stays behind in the Fade. 

 

That is the hardest decision I've ever had to make in a video game.

They made that very emotional, Varric's reaction to leaving Hawke is just  nooope. Of course I'd pick my Hawke over Loghain easily (unless I'm making the decision for different outcomes) I just love my Hawke and am meh about Loghain.

[Lilaih]

Out of all three games only Well of Sorrows has been really difficult decision to me. It took me minutes to make a decision and even then I wasn't sure about that.

[NeverlandHunter]

Hmm....

 

DAO:

 

Whether or not to do the DR

Whether to kill or recruit Loghain

Bhelen or Harrowmont was tough the first time around, but now I almost always pick Bhelen (even though he's a dirtbag, he's better for the dwarves)

 

DAA:

 

I flip a coin on whether to kill or recruit Velanna

 

DA2:

 

Anders, not just whether to kill him or not, but whether to let him help or tell him to get lost

 

DAI

 

Cole human or spirit becomes tougher the more consequences I see for each option

Solas (to hunt or help) at the end of Trespasser

Haha, I actually like Velanna  her banters amused me. The pink streaked stone and the gray stone!

The only way I'd let Anders stay was for gameplay reasons. His value as a healer just outweighed how furious I was at him.

I've only played Trespasser with my Solas romance so the decision wasn't hard for me, but with my other Inquisitor's I'm sure I'm going to have a tough time having any of them be able to justify putting a limb out for Solas.

 

Out of all three games only Well of Sorrows has been really difficult decision to me. It took me minutes to make a decision and even then I wasn't sure about that.

Haha, that one was easily a NOPE for me. The only reason my canon play through drank from it was because she was a Dalish mage and I thought she'd be the only one of my Inquisitor's stupid desperate enough to drink from it. 

[Former_Fiend]

 

 

They made that very emotional, Varric's reaction to leaving Hawke is just  nooope. Of course I'd pick my Hawke over Loghain easily (unless I'm making the decision for different outcomes) I just love my Hawke and am meh about Loghain.

 

Well for me, Loghain is hands down my favorite character in the franchise. So as much as I like Hawke - and I do - it became a very difficult decision. Fist time around I went with Loghain; I kind of liked the thematic idea that he was constantly being denied chances to heroically sacrifice himself, as well as the idea of him, of all people, becoming Warden Commander. 

 

The ending with the mess in Weisshaupt kind of going no where made me regret the decision, though. Felt that well, if this isn't going to matter and the southern Wardens end up leaderless either way, I might as well keep Hawke alive so I could write fan fiction where my protagonists meet up.

[GoldenGail3]

Hmm... Whenever I should use the well of sorrows or not (I hate that dragon, it's annoying). Or let the HOF kill me (I had a Morrigan romancing HOF in one, so I choose wisely to let my guy inquisitor take it). Hmm... Nothing else in DA world seems hard to me, I'm not very afraid of much. I could do a ruthless playthrough and not care one bit.

Silly me, bad grammer!

[NeverlandHunter]

 

Well for me, Loghain is hands down my favorite character in the franchise. So as much as I like Hawke - and I do - it became a very difficult decision. Fist time around I went with Loghain; I kind of liked the thematic idea that he was constantly being denied chances to heroically sacrifice himself, as well as the idea of him, of all people, becoming Warden Commander. 

 

The ending with the mess in Weisshaupt kind of going no where made me regret the decision, though. Felt that well, if this isn't going to matter and the southern Wardens end up leaderless either way, I might as well keep Hawke alive so I could write fan fiction where my protagonists meet up.

I know a lot of people like Loghain, but I think you're the first I've seen to pick him as the favorite!

I like the idea of Hawke and the Warden meeting up at Weisshaupt, is that the sort of fan fiction you're interested in writing?

Look on it with a positive note though, if anyone can survive being trapped in the Fade with a Nightmare tentaclely eyeball spider monster it's Hawke!

 

Hmm... Whenever I should use the well of sorrows or not (I hate that dragon, it's annoying). Or let the HOF kill me (I had a Morrigan romancing HOF in one, so I choose wisely to let my guy inquisitor take it). Hmm... Nothing else in DA world seems hard to me, I'm really afraid of much. I could do a ruthless playthrough and not care one bit.

Lol, but the DA decision are more than what is just morally better. Some of the decisions are equally "good" (or bad for that matter) and you just have to decide which you like better.

[Eivuwan]

It was hard to choose who to leave behind in the fade, Alistair who romanced my warden or Hawke who romanced Fenris. Sigh, I didn't want to break up either couple.

[GoldenGail3]

It was hard to choose who to leave behind in the fade, Alistair who romanced my warden or Hawke who romanced Fenris. Sigh, I didn't want to break up either couple.

I made a kill Hawke for that . I read before hand, so that's probaly why I'm not very scared of making horrible choices...

[Eivuwan]

I made a kill Hawke for that . I read before hand, so that's probaly why I'm not very scared of making horrible choices...

 

Well, I kind of have this problem in which I don't want to play anything other than my own canon.

[NeverlandHunter]

It was hard to choose who to leave behind in the fade, Alistair who romanced my warden or Hawke who romanced Fenris. Sigh, I didn't want to break up either couple.

What'd you decide on? If Alistair had survived his archdemon encounter in my world state I would of been in the same situation, and I don't know who'd I choose.

 

I made a kill Hawke for that . I read before hand, so that's probaly why I'm not very scared of making horrible choices...

Lol. Poor sacrificial Hawke, they never stood a chance.

[Eivuwan]

What'd you decide on? If Alistair had survived his archdemon encounter in my world state I would of been in the same situation, and I don't know who'd I choose.

 

Lol. Poor sacrificial Hawke, they never stood a chance.

 

I eventually decided to sacrifice Hawke since the cameo didn't feel like it's my Hawke anyway.

[NeverlandHunter]

I eventually decided to sacrifice Hawke since the cameo didn't feel like it's my Hawke anyway.

Poor Fenris (and optional Hawke sibling), and poor Varric having to write to him (and optional Hawke sibling) about what happened.

"Dear Broody Fenris,

Hawke decided to be all noble again 

Hawke felt guilty for releasing Corypheus even though I was the one that took her to his prison

I left Hawke to die

Hawke isn't coming back to you

The dragon was finally slain

Hawke died doing what she did, protecting people.

[BronzTrooper]

Chargers vs. Dreadnought (I still have a hard time with it, even when RPing my Inquisitors).

 

Bhelen vs. Harrowmont (specifically on my first playthrough, since I had pretty much no info on either of them.  After playing through DA:O as both a DN and DC, I lean towards Harrowmont since he's seems less tyrannical even though he's far less progressive, though I know Bhelen's probably the better choice (always have Bhelen get the golems while Harrowmont doesn't, though)).

 

Morrigan's Dark Ritual (my Warden was already in a full romance with Leliana and I didn't want to (potentially) compromise that by going through with the DR, and I also wasn't sure that Alistair could be convinced, but I didn't want my Warden to die...).

 

Helping the Architect vs. killing him.

 

Amaranthine vs. Vigil's Keep.

 

Kill Marjolaine vs. let her live.

 

What to do with Blackwall post-reveal.

 

Hawke vs. Stroud (only the first time around).

 

Hawke vs. Loghain (originally was going to leave Loghain, but the more I interacted with him in DA:I, the more I started to actually like him- not to mention I'd already been pretty annoyed at DA:I Hawke by the time I got to this decision).

 

Human Cole vs. Spirit Cole.

 

Who should drink from the Well of Sorrows.

 

Whether or not to have Solas remove my f!Lavellan's vallaslin.

 

I think there's a couple more, but these are the ones I remember off the top of my head.  Also, please don't comment on the results of the above decisions in Trespasser in response to my post.  I haven't been able to get it (still need to get a PS4  ) and I don't want to be spoiled on any of it (honestly, unless I get a notification about this post, I probably won't pop back on this thread).  sry if this inconveniences anyone.

[rowrow]

Dark Ritual or not, hands-down.

 

Alistair wasn't my romance, but I still felt bad horrible asking him to do it. But even that was a small matter compared to the idea of letting a baby be born with an Old God soul - and born to someone like Morrigan,  who I considered a friend but did not necessarily trust fully, and who clearly wasn't going to tell me what she intended with the baby. In the end, I did the ritual, but I always thought it was a decision that would haunt my Warden ever after.

[BraveVesperia]

Dark Ritual. I didn't trust Morrigan as far as I could throw her, but I didn't want my Warden to die. In the end, I decided to wing it in the vain hope that Riordan would make the final blow. What can I say, I was young and naive. Anyway, a romanced Alistair ended up being the one to sacrifice himself, with me unable to stop him. So that choice (and its consequences) stick quite firmly in my mind. Especially since, on my second playthrough, my Warden did sacrifice herself. Pretty damn sad.

 

Making Cole more spirit or more human. I absolutely adore him, so I was quite keen to make the right choice for him (rather than for me). Although he's the same person at the end of the day, it makes a fundamental change to his abilities, perceptions, future. It's tough. I'm still not sure what I consider the best choice, though I prefer spirit.

 

Finally... what class to pick in DA2. Sounds silly, but I love Bethany and especially Carver. Which one I get to form a strong relationship really affects my playthrough. Even though they're not in most of it! It also affects my perception of Hawke and how they feel about their 'family duty', so it is rather a big choice. Choosing between Alistair and Loghain in DAO is somewhat similar, but not quite as tough, since Alistair won't die if I do pick Loghain.

[GGGenesis]

DAO - Dark Ritual
DA2 - eh, probably Bethany vs Carver
DA:I - Well of Sorrows, Hawke or Stroud (yes, I ended up sacrificing Hawke because it made better sense for a senior Warden to lead the Wardens than an outsider who isn't a Warden), and the Solas epidemic in Trespasser. 

 

To be honest, there aren't really 'tough' decisions in Dragon Age games. You always happen to benefit somehow and the decisions don't seem to matter in the long run. Bethesda games now...they know how to stick a knife and twist. The whole steal the baby or let their parents run tests on it...oh yeah...THAT was hard.

[arelenriel]

DAO- Dark Ritual, Alistair on Throne vs. Warden Alistair, Dead Loghain vs Warden Loghain

 

DA2, Carver vs Bethany, Tevinter vs Tranquil Feynriel, Murder Knifing Anders 

 

DAI- Cole, Stroud/Loghain/Alistair vs. Hawke, Gaspard vs. Celene and whether or not to get Briala back with Celene or to have her holding Gaspard's leash

[Qun00]

Sparing/killing the Architect. Even now, I still don't know what's the right thing to do.

Choosing my canon Hawke. The more you think about it, the more you find new variables that make it complicated.

[Nixou]

Looking at the answers, I realize that I didn't agonize much when it comes to decisions in the series:

 

Whether or not to make Cole more human or more spirit (I thought more human was simply the best decision for awhile, but after playing Trespasser I'm conflicted)

 

 

That's the only time I was really conflicted, mostly because both paths give interesting scenes and dialogue, but in the end I decided that since the original Cole wanted to be a normal boy, then an almost-normal real boy named Cole would inhabit Thedas.

 

As for the others named here:

 

To kill or not to kill the Architect (I expect this decision to make some sort of impact in the next game!)

 

 

That never was such a big dilemma for me: killing the Architect, a sentient Darkspawn willing to parley and enter a truce Before even understanding What he is? I can play ruthless bullies, but incurious characters bore me to death, so the Architect always lives.

 

 

Whether to allow Avernus to live (with ethical experiments) or kill him

 

 

Didn't agonize either: my goody two shoes Warden left him alive and forbade unethical research (once again, incurious character = boring character in my book); my main, ruthless Warden happily drank his potion and forbade unethical research mostly because allowing human experiments were a PR nightmare waiting to happen.

 

 

Bhelen vs Harrowmont (I easily picked Harrowmont my first play through, but after seeing the epilogue slides I really doubted that decision... so I picked Bhelen the next time... and then I played the Dwarf Noble Origin and it made the decision really hard!)

 

 

Always choose Bhelen (never played a noble Dwarf Warden): the first time because Harrowmont approached the Warden with accusations that Bhelen was fixing ceremonial arena fights while Bhelen was accusing Harrowmont of bribing assembly members: went for the guy who seemed to commit the most venial offense. Ruthless Main, on the other hand decided to prioritize political expediency: the king most open to trade with the surface was the more likely to provide aid to Wardens on the surface outside of Blights.

 

 

To kill or not to kill Anders (it's easy to hate Anders, harder to decide if he deserves a quick death)

 

 

Kill.

My apostate Hawke was good friend with Anders, agreed that the Circle system was broken and deeply involved himself in the underground railway: giving Meredith the excuse to go genocidal on the Mages still in the circle was such a betrayal that I didn't picture my Hawke being coolheaded enough to do anything apart immediately murderknifing Anders.

 

 

choosing the Dark Ritual for the first time when I didn't know how the game ended or what would happen in advance

 

 

Refused the first time. The main Warden who followed would have agreed to almost anything that increased her lifespan.

 

 

Leaving Hawke in the Fade

 

 

I just can't leave him in the Fade.

Originally I was going to leave him in the Fade because I felt Stroud deserved more screen time (Hawke already had plenty in DA2) and because I liked the irony of having my lovable, snarky, idealistic DA2 protagonist dying for the Grey Wardens while my much more selfish Orgins' protagonist was still gallivanting around instead of doing her job.

Problem is my Hawke's an apostate.

Have you seen the Mage Hawke sacrifice? A swordsman attacking the Nightmare will look appropriately heroic, a mage trying to beat to death the Nightmare with his or her staff (instead of using their spells, in the Fade, where their magic is supposed to be at its strongest dammit!) look way too ridiculous for me to willingly inflict that scene to myself 

 

 

Whether to kill or recruit Loghain

 

 

Always kill: goody two shoes Warden allowed his friend Alistair to duel him, so the question never arose, selfish Warden fought him herself, but certainly wasn't going to risk antagonizing her petlover who was about to ascend to the Fereldan throne.

 

 

Out of all three games only Well of Sorrows has been really difficult decision to me.

 

 

Mmmmmm... Weird magic pool that may inflict mind control on whoever steps inside... Let's let the weird hedge-witch take the risks.

 

 

Too many Quotes...

[Nixou]

Following up:

 

 

Chargers vs. Dreadnought (I still have a hard time with it, even when RPing my Inquisitors).

 

 

Chargers: If the Qunari leaders exile Bull despite the fact that

• Saving the Chargers was the Inquisitor's decision
• The information regarding the Venatori attack was faulty to begin with

It means they're either incompetent or looking or an excuse to get rid of a politically inconvenient hyper-competent underling, and no Inquisitor of mine is going to sacrifice their men in the Qunari's nomenklatura infighting.

 

 

Amaranthine vs. Vigil's Keep.

 

 

There's no dilemma here: I always pick the fruits of my completionist play style.

 

 

Kill Marjolaine vs. let her live.

 

 

Always kill: goody two shoes feared that Majolaine who keep pursuing Leliana, Ruthless one viewed her and her lackeys as appropriate punching bags to vent some steam.

 

 

What to do with Blackwall post-reveal.

 

 

I decided early that my Trevelyan Inquisitor was a learned man. Upon learning that since the real Blackwall had already conscripted him before being killed by Darkspawn, he decided that Thom Rainier was legally-speaking already a Warden and that he would be sent to his peers to complete whatever formalities was needed to make it official.

 

 

Tevinter vs Tranquil Feynriel

 

 

Tevinter Feynriel: he's not going to be a prisoner in the Circle, he's definitely not going to be made Tranquil, and he's most certainly not going to become a demon's meat-puppet. Tevinter is a gamble, but at least here the boy gets a fighting chance to make a life of his own.

 

 

Gaspard vs. Celene and whether or not to get Briala back with Celene or to have her holding Gaspard's leash

 

 

Celene & Briala, because I'm a sick twisted bastard who finds making a dysfunctional couple the keystone keeping a empire of millions from falling into yet another civil war amusing.

 

***

 

The problem is that every time I thought I would have to agonize over a decision (Vigil's Keep or Amaranthine, Werewolves or Dalish, What to do with Connor) the game gave me preferable third options that rendered the whole dilemma moot.

 

That's also why I'm in the minority who unironically loved Dragon Age 2's third act: many hated the bait & switch when it seems at first that Hawke can make honorable Templars and Mages work together to get rid of both Meredith and the mad Blood Mages only for Anders to blow up all chances of compromise, but I for one appreciated that for once the writers had the guts to deny players the golden ending they craved.

[vertigomez]

Whether or not to spare Loghain/Anders has consistently been one of the hardest decisions in the game for me. It mostly depends on how merciful the character I'm playing is, and whether or not Hawke cares about Sebastian razing Kirkwall. >_______>

eta, the Anvil of the Void was another rreeeaaally hard decision for me, especially when playing as a duster. Warden knew exactly who'd be used as fodder for that thing... buuut then Orzammar's facing total annihilation... ooon the other hand maybe he's like **** all y'all and is fine with darkspawn overrunning everybody. It's fun to RP.