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[sandalisthemaker]

And why would you not write in these scenes?

 

I like those scenes. Well, I like Parasini giving Shepard a kiss. It's sweet.

 

As I said on the top of the page, has anyone complained about those scenes? Has there been any outrages over 'consent'? Nope. Those scenes were perfectly accepted. Nobody complained about how their character was compromised by getting kissed me Aria.

 

I like it so it's perfectly acceptable, and no one else in the world dislikes it.

 

I dislike it so it's completely unacceptable and should never be included.  

[BabyPuncher]

This forum has a search function. Old posts are archived. Find me a few threads of people complaining about Parasini or Aria kissing them.

[sandalisthemaker]

This forum has a search function. Old posts are archived. Find me a few threads of people complaining about Parasini or Aria kissing them.

 

I, for one, am not keen on the idea of female characters throwing themselves on my male characters.

 

I find it eyeroll-worthy.  But am I going to froth at the mouth, fly off the handle, and be "outraged" like you freely admit that you would if the genders were swapped?

 

No.  

 

And that says quite a bit about you.

[Cyonan]

I like it so it's perfectly acceptable, and no one else in the world dislikes it.

 

I dislike it so it's completely unacceptable and should never be included.  

 

This is pretty much how most of the internet thinks.

[BabyPuncher]

Ah, yes. How dare someone be outraged that an unwanted person tries to exchange saliva with you. Someone might have their feelings hurt by that sort of grossly unequal treatment.

 

You surely aren't going to try and pretend to me that most straight men are fine and dandy with other men attempting to kiss them? That would be very silly. No, this is a very much a gender thing, not a 'me' thing.

[themikefest]

This forum has a search function. Old posts are archived. Find me a few threads of people complaining about Parasini or Aria kissing them.

Why can't you do that?

 

I did hate that the asari kissed Shepard. Too bad there wasn't a renegade interrupt to smash that asari in the face.

[Cyonan]

Ah, yes. How dare someone be outraged that an unwanted person tries to exchange saliva with you. Someone might have their feelings hurt by that sort of grossly unequal treatment.

 

You surely aren't going to try and pretend to me that most straight men are fine and dandy with other men attempting to kiss them? That would be very silly. No, this is a very much a gender thing, not a 'me' thing.

 

I bet there are plenty of French guys that are fine with a kiss on the cheek from a dude.

[Il Divo]

^Italian ones too, just to throw in my culture.

[Puddi III]

Kisses are nice and all, but I won't settle for anything less than unambiguously assertive sexual advances.

 

Like this.

 

 

Sorry, I should have NSFW'd that.

[AlanC9]

And why would you not write in these scenes?
 
I like those scenes. Well, I like Parasini giving Shepard a kiss. It's sweet.
 
As I said on the top of the page, has anyone complained about those scenes? Has there been any outrages over 'consent'? Nope. Those scenes were perfectly accepted. Nobody complained about how their character was compromised by getting kissed me Aria.

What on earth does this have to do with toggling the gay off?

[KaiserShep]

And why would you not write in these scenes?

 

I like those scenes. Well, I like Parasini giving Shepard a kiss. It's sweet.

 

As I said on the top of the page, has anyone complained about those scenes? Has there been any outrages over 'consent'? Nope. Those scenes were perfectly accepted. Nobody complained about how their character was compromised by getting kissed me Aria.

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of a sexuality switch in the character creation menu. In any case, they were just examples. It doesn't matter if you find the scene acceptable or if there was or wasn't outrage over it. The point is that any sequence you or someone else may find undesirable doesn't have to be something we need a menu toggle to get rid of. 

[Madrict]

I don't think it is selfish at all. If the issue is reproduction, you can easily work around that and still maintain a homosexual love interest. I don't see a conflict.

 

Romances are a huge reason I play Bioware games, they are one of the only developers that includes gay options, and I greatly appreciate that.

 

If they didn't.....that would suck.

[goishen]

The relation is incredibly obvious.

 

If we're talking about gay men that have reserved romantic content (in other words, are treated very unequally than straight and lesbian characters), then sure, we can agree that a 'toggle switch' would be silly.

 

If we're talking about gay men that are treated equally as some other characters are (such as being allowed content like forcefully kissing the player. Because, as quite a number of people seem to have a staggeringly difficult time grasping, that is what 'equality' means and demands) then I would welcome a 'toggle' switch. Because the alternative is me not purchasing the game.

 

 

Meh.   I think that a man kissing you forcefully does two things.

 

1.  Emasculates you. 

 

2.  Shows that he's interested in you. 

 

I truthfully think that emasculation of a man is, in straight males' eyes, one of the worst things that you can do to them.  All you have to do is say that you're not interested.  And your assumption that Aria would be kissing just anyone, with her kick ass looks, is just silly.

[daveliam]

Oh BSN, never change.  I needed the laughs that I got from reading these posts today.  Good old BSN logic. 

 

On topic:  Still not "selfish" for numerous reasons.

On off-topic:  David, stop trying to make the gay toggle happen.  It's not going to happen.

[KaiserShep]

Meh.   I think that a man kissing you forcefully does two things.

 

1.  Emasculates you. 

 

2.  Shows that he's interested in you. 

 

I truthfully think that emasculation of a man is, in straight males' eyes, one of the worst things that you can do to them.  All you have to do is say that you're not interested.  And your assumption that Aria would be kissing just anyone, with her kick ass looks, is just silly.

 

That would explain why Elmer Fudd is so pissed all the time. 

 

 

That, and he's constantly confronted by his own insatiable lust for crossdressing rabbits. 

[SardaukarElite]

I kind of want to see a gay toggle just for how ridiculous it would be.

 

New Game Options

----------------------------

Auto aim: Yes / No

Difficulty: Casual / Normal / Hard

Motion Blur: Off / On

Gay Level: Conservative / European / Rainbow

 

---

 

I think kissing always deserves control of your character's reaction, but I don't see why it would be a big deal to have men being able to kiss the protag casually on the cheek.

[sandalisthemaker]

Meh.   I think that a man kissing you forcefully does two things.

 

1.  Emasculates you. 

 

 

Wat.

 

How?

 

Oh, never mind.  I really should get to bed. 

[KaiserShep]

I kind of want to see a gay toggle just for how ridiculous it would be.

 

New Game Options

----------------------------

Auto aim: Yes / No

Difficulty: Casual / Normal / Hard

Motion Blur: Off / On

Gay Level: Conservative / European / Rainbow

 

---

 

I think kissing always deserves control of your character's reaction, but I don't see why it would be a big deal to have men being able to kiss the protag casually on the cheek.

 

Like if Pathfinder goes to Space Paris and one of its residents does the one-two cheek kiss. 

[Fredward]

1.  Emasculates you. 

 

Why?

[trevelyan_shep]

I think I lost a bunch of braincells from reading this thread.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

This is funny. I want my character to be able to have gay love and enkindle my dreams with a hanar. Like Aethyta says, "sometimes you take love in whatever arms will hold you."

[Natureguy85]

It's not really any more selfish than any other request. Your point about repopulating and utilitarian concerns is valid, but that will be secondary to writing characters. As long as we get a good character, not a sexuality shoved into a body on the screen, I really don't care. What I don't like is pandering.

 

 

Select people for colonizing another galaxy judging by their health, ability and will to reproduce? What a fascism.

Bioware is known for their social realism. If best farmer in the galaxy is gay, then so be it. Sane person would never replace him with some other farmer for some illusory reproduction gains.

 

Yes, those would be valid concerns for an actual colonization effort. That has nothing to do with fascism. However, you are also correct that they aren't the sole concerns and expertise would certainly be one.

 

BioWare puts them in there because it makes them money, garnishes them positive attention, in a world where people can be killed for being gay a video game is kind of a nice safe outlet and some people appreciate it, it will sell extra copies of the game that may not be sold otherwise.

Gay romance isn't hurting you.  You don't want to play it, don't.  Are you afraid we'll see the unlock in your Keep FFS?

 

Is the game even allowed in places where people can be killed for being gay? I mean where it's allowed. Anyone can be killed for anything anywhere because there are always assholes and crazy people.

 

Anyway, it hurts me when we get "the gay guy" rather than "the guy who is gay." The former is pandering, where the latter is an actual character that can add to the story and world.

[KaiserShep]

I think I lost a bunch of braincells from reading this thread.

 

 

Just look what it did to Thomas. This thread. Not even once. 

 

[ImperatorMortis]

Lots of good answers in this thread. I cant help but think that if the OP really thought about it she would have realized the answer.

No its not "selfish" to want homosexual romances or interspecies romances.

[Shechinah]

In fairness to Queen Skadi, this topic happened in a different thread where I believe it derailed said thread since it was not the intended topic of the thread so it is a possiblity that they were starting a different thread so it needn't be in the other and could be discussed here instead. That was my impression, at least.