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[Googleness]

just looked at the GOTY edition on origin.

 

in the beginning I bought the pre-order version of the digital deluxe edition for Inquisition.

it was priced 70 Euro (I'm from Israel).

 

on top of that I bought all the dlcs for additional 55 Euro.

that's lots of money.

 

Now less then one year since the game was released... LESS then a year.

GOTY edition.

On origin.

60 Euro.

All DLCS

All Digital Deluxe content.

https://www.origin.c...he-year-edition

 

Note to self.

never pre-order games and wait for Christmas sale on GOTY edition.

 

In more serious note I was sure it will not get the super all in one version for 2-3 years post release and even then it will not be on sale after that.

Now I see then less then one year later I could have got all the parts of the game for much cheaper price.

 

I feel bad.

[LightningPoodle]

EA mate. They'll cash in their own mothers if it means more money for their quarterly reports.

[Serza]

Funny. I don't.

 

I enjoyed every last bit of the game.

If that means I paid roughly equal to 120 bucks instead of sixty, so be it. As I said, I don't consider the money wasted.

[Googleness]

Funny. I don't.

 

I enjoyed every last bit of the game.

If that means I paid roughly equal to 120 bucks instead of sixty, so be it. As I said, I don't consider the money wasted.

 

It's not that the game was not worth the money it's the disrespect.

 

less then a year? 

to this day you can't get GOTY with all contents and bonuses for mass effect games and dragon age 2.

here so soon after the release they already sells everything so cheaply.

if you deduct the DLCs from the pack it's like they sell the digital deluxe for 5 euro... :X

 

Unless one is pc gaming zombie which sits in front of his monitor 24\7 waiting 9-10 months before getting new game (post release) is not that much.

in the past a year+ after a game was released expansion packs were still being developed and sold for that said game.

 

here we get a new development in which a game is sold for large amount of money as "deluxe pre order" oriented only to be sold less tehn year later with all expansions and content ever released for less then the original price.

 

it's something new with bioware and at least for me it means I will wait for new ME:A Goty edition. no more pre-orders.

[Mushashi7]

OP has a point. 125 Euro is a lot of money for a game.

 

Video games are expensive.
You have to be sure about the entertainment value you get from this investment.
Remember you also have to have a PC/console as well.

 

On the other hand: What does a cinema ticket cost you today?
A movie is usually two hours of entertainment. In the US it's about 7 dollars? In Europe I think 9 Euro is a good standard.

That means aprox. 28 hours of entertainment you'll get for 125 Euro.

How many hours did you play Dragon Age Inquisition?

[Googleness]

OP has a point. 125 Euro is a lot of money for a game.

 

Video games are expensive.
You have to be sure about the entertainment value you get from this investment.
Remember you also have to have a PC/console as well.

 

On the other hand: What does a cinema ticket cost you today?
A movie is usually two hours of entertainment. In the US it's about 7 dollars? In Europe I think 9 Euro is a good standard.

That means aprox. 28 hours of entertainment you'll get for 125 Euro.

How many hours did you play Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

you didn't get my point.

 

I was not complaining the game cost me with the dlcs over 120 Euro.

 

I was complaining that they sell less then a year post release the game with all dlcs and deluxe edition content for less then the original price of the game prior to the dlcs.

 

in all my experience with computer games which is over 20+ years I never seen such thing as a game gets GOTY all in one edition less tehn one year post release with all bonuses and for such low price.

 

I remember playing previous Bioware games like NWN which got many expansion packs and unique campaigns for years post release.

 

here in less then one year we got this combined GOTY pack for less then the original price of the game.

 

9-10 months is not too much time to wait before getting new pc game, so if in future games like ME:A we will see the same treatment that I personally feel that I myself have no incentive to pre-order orr purchase the game before the GOTY is released.

 

even without sale on holidays getting the full pack for 60 Euro is great deal! I just feel bad for thinking it will take 2-3 + years before such pack is even released - considering we only had one similar with Origins (Ultimate edition) but with DA: 2 we didn't get one.

ME series had that triple pack but without the deluxe content and without any dlcs at all.

 

in fact thinking about it ever since NWN: Platinum pack I never saw bioware release all one with all contents and dlcs pack for their game.

less then year post release and priced less then the original game (this is deluxe version mind you) is just mind blowing.

[Mushashi7]

you didn't get my point.

 

I was not complaining the game cost me with the dlcs over 120 Euro.

 

I was complaining that they sell less then a year post release the game with all dlcs and deluxe edition content for less then the original price of the game prior to the dlcs.

 

in all my experience with computer games which is over 20+ years I never seen such thing as a game gets GOTY all in one edition less tehn one year post release with all bonuses and for such low price.

 

I remember playing previous Bioware games like NWN which got many expansion packs and unique campaigns for years post release.

 

here in less then one year we got this combined GOTY pack for less then the original price of the game.

 

9-10 months is not too much time to wait before getting new pc game, so if in future games like ME:A we will see the same treatment that I personally feel that I myself have no incentive to pre-order orr purchase the game before the GOTY is released.

 

even without sale on holidays getting the full pack for 60 Euro is great deal! I just feel bad for thinking it will take 2-3 + years before such pack is even released - considering we only had one similar with Origins (Ultimate edition) but with DA: 2 we didn't get one.

ME series had that triple pack but without the deluxe content and without any dlcs at all.

 

in fact thinking about it ever since NWN: Platinum pack I never saw bioware release all one with all contents and dlcs pack for their game.

less then year post release and priced less then the original game (this is deluxe version mind you) is just mind blowing.

 

You feel 'milked'?

[London]

For me. Going to the movies and buying a video game don't compare. Going to see a film is usually a social experience, and I get to enjoy a huge screen and better sound than I get at home. Also the entertainment value per minute spent on a movie is higher than per minute spent on DAI.

DAI was oftentimes dull - many, many hours could have been streamlined out of the game if we're a more focused experience. That said I think it does have value as a $60 game, but the totality of the DLC at another $65 dollars is what doesn't feel worth it to me. I'd rather invest in a whole new gaming experience.

As for getting a GOTY so quickly - why complain? Now we know that we won't have to wait all that long for a fairly priced version of Me:a with all the DLC. I learned my lesson with DAI.

[Abyss108]

Why would they wait to release a GotY edition when all the content is out now? Who gets the benefit from that?

 

Not EA who will have to try and sell a game years out of date if they wait. Not the person who waited for the GotY edition who would just have a longer wait. Not the person who already bought the game, as this doesn't change the amount they paid.

[Grog Muffins]

From now on, OP, your assumption of a GOTY edition for future games not coming sooner than 2-3 years might be correct. I think it didn't apply in DAI's case because of the DLCs not being available on the previous gen consoles, whereas ME:A and the new IP will not have this problem. I see this as sort of a halfway point to meet the people who already bought the game on 360/PS3 and would have to buy everything once again (instead of spending 120 euro they would spend half that, seeing as they already supported the game in its first year of life). The fact that new players will also be able to get it complete is a side benefit, imo.

 

I'm also a little bugged about the price, seeing as I also paid a total of 120 euro but, at the same time, I also enjoyed every minute of it and would probably still do it again, even if I knew the GOTY edition would cost half of the total money I paid and would come out less than a year after the game's initial launch. I have almost 1000 hours put into it, that definitely shows how much I enjoyed it.

[Bfler]

The life span of a normal game is 1-1.5 years nowadays. In case of EA, with all the Battlefield, Fifa etc... stuff shorter rather than longer. I guess because DA:I has already disappeared from the radar, that's the last try to squeeze money out it.

[Googleness]

The life span of a normal game is 1-1.5 years nowadays. In case of EA, with all the Battlefield, Fifa etc... stuff shorter rather than longer. I guess because DA:I has already disappeared from the radar, that's the last try to squeeze money out it.

 

sad

[Donk]

Is always the case with games.

 

If you're a fan, you will spend top dollar and buy the game and all of its DLCS.

 

GOTY editions are just cash grabs to attract new fans.. or even existing ones, who are patient. This isn't new.

[MaxQuartiroli]

I preordered Digital Deluxe Edition and I bought every story related DLC on day 1 and I don't regret it. I suppose that there is also a price that you have to pay for early release and if you want to play every single piece of game as soon as it is released. I think this also applies to every piece of technology: if you buy a new phone on day 1 there is a high chance that you pay it more than people who will buy it 1 year later. In this industry everything tend to become old very soon and the price become lower after few months. Whether to buy immediately or have the patience to wait is only for us to decide.

 

Rather than OP I tend to agree more with people who are complaining about not giving  the option to upgrade to GOTY to players who preordered the game. It would be sweet for people who don't have all the DLC yet, and a nice reward for their loyalty, even if I don't care personally, considering that I have already bought everything that was of interest to me and a GOTY upgrade wouldn't change anything to me. Of course if they were making some change to the core of the game (like Larian will do with DoS EE) it would be quite another matter....

[Guildmasterron]

I also pre ordered the digital deluxe edition and bought all of the DLCs as released. Do I regret it? No. Yes, the GOTY edition is quite the value. I wouldn't have wanted to wait this long to play the game. For me it was worth it. To those who feel otherwise, so be it.

[correctamundo]

Why can't I have the cake and eat it? It is unfair.

[Dai Grepher]

It sucks, especially since they touted the pre-order version as having extra content. Turned out to be nothing special.

 

The only benefit to the pre-order was being able to find out the storyline same as everyone else. Otherwise I would have had to avoid all Inquisition related discussions until getting and completing the GotYE. That and the pre-patch 3 exploits, which I enjoyed up until Jaws of Hakkon/Descent/Trespasser.

 

I think I will wait for the bundle next time for DA4. I waited for DA2, and glad I did, because I ended up not buying it and received it as a gift from a friend who couldn't stand playing it.

[TraiHarder]

LoL you feel bad try buy it on the first on the ps3 for 70 bucks because I didnt have a ps4 yet then turn around an have to buy it on the ps4 for 70 bucks then boom GOTY for less than 70 bucks an you get everything An oh we're not gonna reduce the prices of the DLC

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Video games are -not- expensive, relatively speaking.  Top tier video games were already $50 for some back in the late 80s / early 90s.  That means the base games should actually be running for about $91 in current dollars.  That's before any DLCs.  Video games, are, in fact, one hell of a bargain. 

 

Another way to look at it.  Go to a movie for about $8 (that's probably cheap for most people) for (generously) 2 hours of entertainment.  So movies, a popular form of entertainment, run you at the very least $4/hour.  Let's lowball the hell out of DAI and say you only played it for 150 hours, though I know many have gone way over that, including me.   Even with all DLC, that's still less than $1/hour for your entertainment pleasure.

[Al Foley]

Video games are -not- expensive, relatively speaking.  Top tier video games were already $50 for some back in the late 80s / early 90s.  That means the base games should actually be running for about $91 in current dollars.  That's before any DLCs.  Video games, are, in fact, one hell of a bargain. 

 

Another way to look at it.  Go to a movie for about $8 (that's probably cheap for most people) for (generously) 2 hours of entertainment.  So movies, a popular form of entertainment, run you at the very least $4/hour.  Let's lowball the hell out of DAI and say you only played it for 150 hours, though I know many have gone way over that, including me.   Even with all DLC, that's still less than $1/hour for your entertainment pleasure.

I was thinking the same thing eyeing the Avenger Blu ray/ and DVDs.  

[Serza]

Video games are -not- expensive, relatively speaking.  Top tier video games were already $50 for some back in the late 80s / early 90s.  That means the base games should actually be running for about $91 in current dollars.  That's before any DLCs.  Video games, are, in fact, one hell of a bargain. 

 

Another way to look at it.  Go to a movie for about $8 (that's probably cheap for most people) for (generously) 2 hours of entertainment.  So movies, a popular form of entertainment, run you at the very least $4/hour.  Let's lowball the hell out of DAI and say you only played it for 150 hours, though I know many have gone way over that, including me.   Even with all DLC, that's still less than $1/hour for your entertainment pleasure.

 

Yeah. And let's say I got Inquisition for 1100CZK. That's... somewhere under $46 US. (That's actually what I got the base game for. Including a Dragon Mug)

 

 

Found a very bad pic.

[Dai Grepher]

Video games are -not- expensive, relatively speaking.  Top tier video games were already $50 for some back in the late 80s / early 90s.  That means the base games should actually be running for about $91 in current dollars.  That's before any DLCs.  Video games, are, in fact, one hell of a bargain. 

 

Another way to look at it.  Go to a movie for about $8 (that's probably cheap for most people) for (generously) 2 hours of entertainment.  So movies, a popular form of entertainment, run you at the very least $4/hour.  Let's lowball the hell out of DAI and say you only played it for 150 hours, though I know many have gone way over that, including me.   Even with all DLC, that's still less than $1/hour for your entertainment pleasure.

 

Yeah, and those were on cartridges. Discs, and especially downloads, should be much cheaper. Oh, and no manual either.

 

But I do agree it is cheap compared to other overpriced media. And a video game is like a really long movie that you can interact with. So it is better than that, and a lot of games are like movies anyway. So yeah, good bargain. Still, it's a bit of a gut punch when all the content is bundled for a lower price than the separate components.
 

[Beren Von Ostwick]

No, they were not on cartridges.  I am not a console gamer.  I'm talking about PC games.  And actually, they used to come with incredible manuals.  Really, I have no idea where you are getting your information.

[London]

I paid $80 on release day for the SNES version of Street Fighter 2 - Turbo in the early 90s. This was not a collectors edition and offered no DLC or perks other than the cartridge. But I loved that game and got thousands of hours from it playing with friends.

I'm also not bitter about ME games and buying their DLC individually.

I don't honestly even mind having bought DAI Collectors and Tresspasser. What bothers me I think is the $40 I would need to pay to get what honestly today is grossly overpriced DLC for the quality of that DLC.

If BioWare is telling us that the entire base game and all DLC is now worth $60 (likely soon to be even less as it goes on sale), they can't honestly tell me that I should feel happy paying $40 for the mediocre Jaws and Descent and some skins. It's just no longer a value. The argument of "oh I got to play a year earlier" doesn't apply here. It actually never did - none of the DLC is very old.

As for the argument that BioWare has no interest in offering discounted DLCs for early adopters I proffer this: I will not buy the remaining DLC at all, and I'm sure many who are in th fence about DLC of questionable value will do the same.

[Dai Grepher]

No, they were not on cartridges.  I am not a console gamer.  I'm talking about PC games.  And actually, they used to come with incredible manuals.  Really, I have no idea where you are getting your information.

 

Well you made reference to top tier games of the late 80s early 90s, so... weren't that many PC games out at the time except those you could get on a 3.5, like Doom or Oregon Trail. And if you paid $50 for those then you were a sucker, because Doom you could get for free, and other games of the Windows 95 era were dirt cheap.

 

The games that were $50 and up were the games on the SNES and Sega Genesis. Again, cartridges.

 

And the no manual statement was in reference to Inquisition. No printed media with the game.