Why does the Temple of Mythal still have images and prayers to the Evanuris? The Elven Sentinels know they are the ones that betrayed killed their goddess.
Also, I know it was a way to leave a few mysteries for the player, but it also seems kind of contrived that Abelas doesn't actually mention who betrayed Mythal if it the answer was so straightforward. He didn't seem hesitant about telling the party their legends were wrong about anything else.
They aren't so much prayers but murals telling a story. They are part of Mythal's story.
Andraste was burned at the stake but her husbands tale and the archon's tale are all told as part of that story (even if its a modified version of it).
Abelas knew about the wars among the "gods" but he didn't know they weren't gods. So maybe he didn't know who murdered Mythal, he just knows she was murdered by someone who was not Fen'Harel, or as murdered as a "god" can get. It seems to me Abelas also thought the empire was torn down by the wars, not the Veil. So maybe he just knows what he was taught.
They aren't so much prayers but murals telling a story. They are part of Mythal's story.
Andraste was burned at the stake but her husbands tale and the archon's tale are all told as part of that story (even if its a modified version of it).
Most of the stories about the Evanuris in the temple aren't related to Mythal. One of the is a story of Ghilan'nain destroying her creations to become a god. One of them is simply a prayer to Elgar'nan.
-Maybe they didn't want to upset the other gods in case they came back and punished them?
-Maybe they don't have the resources to rebuild the temple? It was probably made with ancient magic from the gods, it might just fall apart if they mess with it.
-Maybe the were all asleep until recently when Solas woke up and haven't had time/don't think it's important?
-Maybe they want it to be kept a secret they know the other gods murdered Mythal, because they are agents of Fen'Harel, or other rebels?
-Maybe they do tell a story, it was just one the characters couldn't translate and they missed parts out?
-Maybe they just didn't know?
Just a few possible guesses! 
I'm kind of wondering if we have not heard from Mythal's perspective much (outside the "things happened that were never meant to happen!" that "she was betrayed, as the world was betrayed!" and that she is holding out for a reckoning "that will shake the very heavens!") because her perspective complicates Solas/Fen'Harel's story a bit more. Her lines could easily be interpreted as her supporting Solas, or as being angry at Solas (the world being betrayed sounds a bit more like she's angry at the Veil). So, what went down with the other gods could be something she regrets, but not something she thinks warrants her peers from being stricken from her temple?
It could also be because the Temple of Mythal was really the only place in the main game where we could start seeing more complicated views of the Gods, and that it is a lore/gameplay moment.
The "world was betrayed" could also be interpreted as Mythal believing the Evanuris betrayed their duty to the Earth (they said the Earth was their right when banishing the Forbidden Ones) by desiring to kill Titans, which Mythal was apparently against. So, the others murdered Mythal to advance their goals of dooming the Earth (material world) by slaying the Titans for more power, and so they "betrayed" the world.
This is just speculation, of course.
Even if it was a Temple of Mythal and the others killed her, the stories of the others are all still a part of the tapestry of the world of the Ancient Elves.
Abelas knew about the wars among the "gods" but he didn't know they weren't gods.
Abelas doesn't strike me as the type to call non-gods "gods" if he knows what they really were. But yes, maybe he heard they weren't and simply dismissed it as blasphemy.
Abelas doesn't strike me as the type to call non-gods "gods" if he knows what they really were. But yes, maybe he heard they weren't and simply dismissed it as blasphemy.
There's no objective standard for godhood. Creating the veil was certainly godlike, as was the power exhibited by Solas in Trespasser, so if the evanuris had similar capabilities I don't see much reason to say definitively that they were not gods.
There's no objective standard for godhood. Creating the veil was certainly godlike, as was the power exhibited by Solas in Trespasser, so if the evanuris had similar capabilities I don't see much reason to say definitively that they were not gods.
That's if Abelas knows about the Veil story, and that's if its even true in the first place. Solas' power in Trespasser can be dismissed as a spell. Wynne could do the same thing in Origins.
How about the fact that Solas was going around saying, "We aren't gods"?
But this is all beside the point. Abelas thought they were gods. So he probably didn't know the truth about them.
Indeed. They may not have created the world but Solas can turn people to stone with a thought, that's probably pretty god-like to the ancient elves.
And did Abelas know this about Fen'Harel or any of the other evanuris?
Well he clearly talks as if he knows who killed Mythal, regardless of what he thinks they are. So I don't know how he wouldn't know, even if he does believe they were gods.
That's if Abelas knows about the Veil story, and that's if its even true in the first place. Solas' power in Trespasser can be dismissed as a spell. Wynne could do the same thing in Origins.
How about the fact that Solas was going around saying, "We aren't gods"?
But this is all beside the point. Abelas thought they were gods. So he probably didn't know the truth about them.
And did Abelas know this about Fen'Harel or any of the other evanuris?
Because he knows she was killed, and he knows she and the others were at war with each other. So it's a safe bet that at least one of them murdered her.
Then all he needs to rule out Fen'Harel is the knowledge that they were friends.
Why wouldn't Abelas have known this? And turning people to stone is but an example, who knows what else they can do? Teleport from one side of the continent to another?
He may not have been around for it. Logically, if the Veil did destroy the ancient elves and sever their special connection to the Fade, then it's likely that those affected don't remember what happened. So even if Abelas was present to this alleged event, that doesn't mean he would remember it properly.
Seeing the "impossible" made possible isn't automatic proof of godhood, especially in a world where magic exists.
He may not have been around for it. Logically, if the Veil did destroy the ancient elves and sever their special connection to the Fade, then it's likely that those affected don't remember what happened. So even if Abelas was present to this alleged event, that doesn't mean he would remember it properly.
Seeing the "impossible" made possible isn't automatic proof of godhood, especially in a world where magic exists.
To answer the original question, the Sentinels don't know that the Evanuris are false gods... in fact, that the other "gods" conspired to murder their patron goddess seemingly out of jealousy, probably only reinforces the notion that Mythal is best of the pantheon and the only one worth following.
He may not have been around for it. Logically, if the Veil did destroy the ancient elves and sever their special connection to the Fade, then it's likely that those affected don't remember what happened. So even if Abelas was present to this alleged event, that doesn't mean he would remember it properly.
Seeing the "impossible" made possible isn't automatic proof of godhood, especially in a world where magic exists.
If you drank from the Well of Sorrows, the hidden veilfire runes in the Temple reveal that Abelas is one of the few surviving Sentinels from before the Fall. He apparently finds it increasingly hard to explain to the younger generations of Sentinels (born post-Veil) exactly what was lost and of the time when the Gods walked among them.
(Ninja'd by Lumix, it seems)
I know they see the Evanuris as gods, I was asking why they would continue to keep statues and songs to the gods who killed Mythal in her own temple.
Abelas knew about the wars among the "gods" but he didn't know they weren't gods. So maybe he didn't know who murdered Mythal, he just knows she was murdered by someone who was not Fen'Harel, or as murdered as a "god" can get. It seems to me Abelas also thought the empire was torn down by the wars, not the Veil. So maybe he just knows what he was taught.
The Lost Temple of Dirthamen has runes written right after the "gods" were locked up (it mention Dirthamen being gone). There is no mention of the Veil showing up or the people in the temple losing their powers because of it. In fact, the whole thing is about them going crazy because they lost Dirthamen and don't know what to do anymore.
Their society collapsed because they lost their gods, their leaders, their guiding lights.
I'm fairly certain he does remember:
This veilfire script was hidden in the Arbor Wilds. It's so old it cannot be translated into any known language.
There are whispers fom the Well of Sorrows. It's impossible to understand the entire text, but certain parts suddenly reveal a shadow of their original meaning.
"We are trapped. The ones born here do not understand the keenness of what we have lost, or why so many of their elders weep as they enter uthenera. The new ones are faithful to Mythal, but do not understand what she was in her fullness. Without the wise to lead them, they will lose what they should have been.
I will teach them. They must serve. We must prepare for those who cast Mythal down. I shed my name the day I began her service. I shed my new one again, now that she rests. I will only be known by the sorrow that cuts my heart."
For a moment, there is a feeling of wrenching loss. Then it fades.
And the memories for the Vir Dirthara seem to indicate that people were aware of the Veil, even if they didn't understand what it was.
And it may not be proof of godhood to you, but you are not an Elvhen. Besides what you consider a god and what the Ancient Elvhen considered one might differ, the term godhood is up to individual interpretation. Seeing someone transform into a dragon, or survive apparent death, or teleport across the continent might have been enough for the Elvhen.
But was that Abelas writing that? Or was he one of the new ones born into the Veiled world who was merely taught the histories? Also, that quote makes it seem like they thought the other evanuris were still on the loose. They didn't know they had been locked away by Fen'Harel? And just how did the legends the Dalish pass down start?
Yes, I think it's clear that Abelas considered them gods, and I agree with you on that. My point was that if he knew the truth about them, that they were just powerful spirits/mages, then he would not consider them gods. Same as how Solas does not consider them gods. Like Solas said, they weren't gods, unless you stretch the definition of the word to the point of absurdity. And yes, I agree that it depends on individual perspective and reasoning. The people in Amaranthine (if you saved it in Awakening) saw the Hero and company take down numerous monstrous enemies by using many special abilities and techniques. To humans, they are just extraordinary people. To children, they might appear as superheroes. To city elves, they might appear as gods.
To answer the original question, the Sentinels don't know that the Evanuris are false gods... in fact, that the other "gods" conspired to murder their patron goddess seemingly out of jealousy, probably only reinforces the notion that Mythal is best of the pantheon and the only one worth following.
If you drank from the Well of Sorrows, the hidden veilfire runes in the Temple reveal that Abelas is one of the few surviving Sentinels from before the Fall. He apparently finds it increasingly hard to explain to the younger generations of Sentinels (born post-Veil) exactly what was lost and of the time when the Gods walked among them.
(Ninja'd by Lumix, it seems)
Right.
But did Abelas write that message, or was it someone who came before him?
The Lost Temple of Dirthamen has runes written right after the "gods" were locked up (it mention Dirthamen being gone). There is no mention of the Veil showing up or the people in the temple losing their powers because of it. In fact, the whole thing is about them going crazy because they lost Dirthamen and don't know what to do anymore.
Their society collapsed because they lost their gods, their leaders, their guiding lights.
That was my take on what the runes were saying. That the loss of their respective "gods" causes the collapse. But what Abelas said made it seem like the elvhen warred with each other and destroyed each other.
But was that Abelas writing that? Or was he one of the new ones born into the Veiled world who was merely taught the histories? Also, that quote makes it seem like they thought the other evanuris were still on the loose. They didn't know they had been locked away by Fen'Harel? And just how did the legends the Dalish pass down start?
That the person who wrote the runes states that he will shed his name and "only be known by the sorrow that cuts my heart" and we know that Abelas means "Sorrow" in Elvish, it's a pretty solid guess that he was indeed the author.
I'm sure the ancient elves did war with each other, likely at the behest of their patron deities. Falon'Din started wars to bring more worshipers into his influence and the only thing that kept him and Elgar'nan from sparking a war was Mythal's influence. It's pretty clear that things weren't peaceful between them all the time.
Even if it wasn't because of their gods, there was probably time for the ancient elves to start fighting before their civilization waned completely. I could see them splitting into factions once their gods were locked away. Of course, that's also just speculation.
I know they see the Evanuris as gods, I was asking why they would continue to keep statues and songs to the gods who killed Mythal in her own temple.
She was one of them. No record of her history could rightfully exclude them.
To answer the original question, the Sentinels don't know that the Evanuris are false gods... i
And neither do I.
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