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[ironfist1191]

Now this might have been adressed already, but well I haven´t been active for some time ever since the latest trailer, but what time frame is ME.A supposed to be set in?

I have heard that one said long after the events of ME3, which would of course be a logical solution to the controversy that spawned. (DONT START A DEBATE ABOUT THE BLOODY ENDINGS NOW PLEASE LEAVE THAT FOR ME3 THREADS) 

Does anyone have any ideas how they would adress the various endings as they are vastly different in outcomes (no debate pls), I personally chose Destroy with the highest EMS, which exterminated the Geth in the end and all sentients with reaper integrated tech, the citadel was rebuilt (As shown in the aftermath cutscene) and shepard lived. (confirmed by Bioware)

Now this is a pretty straightforward plot to continue with, as they maybe would emigrate to another galaxy etc.

But how would they deal with the other endings? In one shepard basically controls a big ass reaper fleet, which I bet can be used to destroy andromedas natives easier than when the reapers rekt Earth. SO per say they would have to be absent in some way if it is played after the events of Me3.

 

Same goes with synthesis, where are the reapers who survived?

 

Now I have also heard of some kind of tweet when someone says that ME:A doesn´t need to be played after or before the events of the original trilogy.

 

Does this mean that the game might happen during the reaper war?

 

Would be happy to hear you guys thoughts on this!

[FKA_Servo]

It seems likely that it might start before the reaper war is over. By the time the wildly divergent endings have thrown a wrench into everything, we're out of the Milky Way and none of it matters or applies to us. It sidesteps everything entirely.

 

The trip itself could take hundreds of years. Which I think would be awesome, but we'll see what they do.

[ironfist1191]

So maybe before Sword fleet attacks /during the battle or do you mean earlier like as Leaving Earth? I have heard that (suppose the "ark theory" is true) they escape due to continue the life from milky way to andromeda, as they fear defeat, and presume shepard is dead.

Quite intresting how to asari councillor mentioned plans to: "Preserve the future of our species."

[Killroy]

The entire point of leaving the Milky Way is to avoid the endings so the only logical way of doing that is for the Ark to leave some time before the Crucible fires. 

[sjsharp2011]

So maybe before Sword fleet attacks /during the battle or do you mean earlier like as Leaving Earth? I have heard that (suppose the "ark theory" is true) they escape due to continue the life from milky way to andromeda, as they fear defeat, and presume shepard is dead.

Quite intresting how to asari councillor mentioned plans to: "Preserve the future of our species."

 

 

I would say it's likely about half way through is when the decision is made to go. Most likely and this is a guess by the way I'd say around the time Cerberus attacks the Citadel or shortly after. That is if this Ark theory is to work I think.

[ironfist1191]

I would say it's likely about half way through is when the decision is made to go. Most likely and this is a guess by the way I'd say around the time Cerberus attacks the Citadel or shortly after. That is if this Ark theory is to work I think.

Might be a off topic thing, but while mentioning Cerberus, qouting the illusive man "Cerberus is not a organization, its a ideal." got me thinking, what if there is a cerberus agent with us in Andromeda? maybe a sleeper agent of some sort? I swear I got a feeling ME3 was not the last of them...

[FKA_Servo]

Might be a off topic thing, but while mentioning Cerberus, qouting the illusive man "Cerberus is not a organization, its a ideal." got me thinking, what if there is a cerberus agent with us in Andromeda? maybe a sleeper agent of some sort? I swear I got a feeling ME3 was not the last of them...

 

You're probably right, but goddammit I hope not.

 

Cerberus was good as a sidequest boogie man in ME1. They were stupid in ME2 and ME3.

[shodiswe]

After you won the war there would be very Little incentive to launch something like that for the next million years or so.... So, I would expect it to launch Before they knew they would win. They are running from the Reapers to try and preserve some of the civilisation that the Reapers were wiping out.

Bioware can do the rest of the explaining. It give BW a blank slate storywise. A new galaxy to explore, new content, but still familiar content and an accepted and loved setting in it's technology and setting, species etz.

They threw out the stuf that makes story building tricky andtry to keep the good stuff. How well they will do, will be known to us in time. I'm hopeful.

[sjsharp2011]

You're probably right, but goddammit I hope not.

 

Cerberus was good as a sidequest boogie man in ME1. They were stupid in ME2 and ME3.

not so much in 2 as I think TIM did at least try to make amends a bit by trying to support Shepard but as to how much if anything the reapers got to him or not I'm not entirely sure. Obviously they had by the time ME3 came around but it was a little unclear in ME2 I think.

[FlyingSquirrel]

I'm hoping it's far into the future using cryosleep as opposed to a wormhole or a secret mass relay, because then there would be the obvious question of why there was no plan to evacuate civilians en masse through the wormhole or the secret mass relay. Plus, I expect that the crew of ME:A will have to stay in Andromeda after arriving there, and a wormhole or mass relay would leave the door open to a return trip unless it collapses/explodes/whatever after they arrive.

[Keitaro57]

Well, if they launch the "Ark" thing before the ending of ME3, it will be good to know at what time exactly.

Geths, Batarians, Elcors, Hanars, Drells, Quarian... There is a lot of races that may be totally slaught during the game.

If they launch the "Ark" before the Quarian/Geth war stop it means you will not find any guy of this two races in MEA.

 

And it comes back with what I said in my "Interstellar" topics : if they are totally cut out from the Milky Way, resource management must be a vital quest especially the food supply.

 

What will happen when the clock will go past the last battle? What will come from the Milky Way to Andromeda with the three different endings?

 

A lot of traps in this question, yeah...

[ironfist1191]

Well, if they launch the "Ark" thing before the ending of ME3, it will be good to know at what time exactly.

Geths, Batarians, Elcors, Hanars, Drells, Quarian... There is a lot of races that may be totally slaught during the game.

If they launch the "Ark" before the Quarian/Geth war stop it means you will not find any guy of this two races in MEA.

 

And it comes back with what I said in my "Interstellar" topics : if they are totally cut out from the Milky Way, resource management must be a vital quest especially the food supply.

 

What will happen when the clock will go past the last battle? What will come from the Milky Way to Andromeda with the three different endings?

 

A lot of traps in this question, yeah...

 

The crucibles energy is just focused on reaper tech, Andromeda doesn´t presumebly have this, so they should not be affected.

Secondly I do not think that the crucibles energy is strong enough in range to spread all the way to Andromeda, therefor not reaching the ark, and (I hope) preserving a geth or two if they are in the ship :DD (But i fear this will not happen)

[Cheviot]

I imagine the unknown craft that is found to be a special relay doesn't drift into the Milky Way until a few hundred (or few thousand) years after the Shepard Trilogy ends, so I think MEA will start maybe 20 years after that.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

1) I bet we won't see Quarians or Geth because that means setting a canon for the choice. 25% chose the Quarians, 33% chose the Geth. 37% chose Peace.

 

2) The survival of the Drell and Hanar depends upon Kasumi's quest in ME3, so we won't see either of them.

 

3) The Elcor did not get "enough" off their world - enough for what is unclear. Most likely for reproduction of their species. I don't expect to see them. I also  don't expect to see the Volus. They require finding a world with an ammonia atmosphere and require environmental suits otherwise.

 

4) Krogan were too popular to kill off. They'll be there. Perhaps the genophage cure was not as wildly successful as Wrex or Wreav hoped. Because Mordin used different space magic sites than was used for the genophage, Bioware has the opportunity to fix the Krogan reproduction rate and make it reasonable.

 

5) The Batarians are toast.

 

6) We'll see Turians, Asari, Salarians, Humans, and Krogan from the Milky Way. We'll meet new species in Andromeda!

 

7) I figure the Ark will leave some time after the Fall of Thessia and before the assault on Cronos Station (before the Cerberus Assault on the Citadel). Why? I think Mike Gamble said the named characters on the Citadel survived. This may be how they survived. "Continuity of civilization must be considered. I never thought this day would come."

 

8) I also guess that the trip will take about 500 years. It's a one way trip. Finding a d-DNA world for the Turians will be interesting. Then again maybe the Turians stayed and fought and we don't see them.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hopefully the sojourn to Andromeda takes place after the Reaper War. If it takes place before or during, with the exception of a few possibilities it won't work without destroying the lore and/or using a Deus Ex Machina(which Bioware fans have shown not to be fans of). 

[shodiswe]

1) I bet we won't see Quarians or Geth because that means setting a canon for the choice. 25% chose the Quarians, 33% chose the Geth. 37% chose Peace.
 
2) The survival of the Drell and Hanar depends upon Kasumi's quest in ME3, so we won't see either of them.
 
3) The Elcor did not get "enough" off their world - enough for what is unclear. Most likely for reproduction of their species. I don't expect to see them. I also  don't expect to see the Volus. They require finding a world with an ammonia atmosphere and require environmental suits otherwise.
 
4) Krogan were too popular to kill off. They'll be there. Perhaps the genophage cure was not as wildly successful as Wrex or Wreav hoped. Because Mordin used different space magic sites than was used for the genophage, Bioware has the opportunity to fix the Krogan reproduction rate and make it reasonable.
 
5) The Batarians are toast.
 
6) We'll see Turians, Asari, Salarians, Humans, and Krogan from the Milky Way. We'll meet new species in Andromeda!
 
7) I figure the Ark will leave some time after the Fall of Thessia and before the assault on Cronos Station (before the Cerberus Assault on the Citadel). Why? I think Mike Gamble said the named characters on the Citadel survived. This may be how they survived. "Continuity of civilization must be considered. I never thought this day would come."
 
8) I also guess that the trip will take about 500 years. It's a one way trip. Finding a d-DNA world for the Turians will be interesting. Then again maybe the Turians stayed and fought and we don't see them.

@sH0tgUn jUliA

That's a very negative and dark portray of things to come.

There might have been enough Quarians recruited, the missing people who didn't return to the flotilla when they called people back would have been written off as Reaper attaks and losses in a chaotic galaxy. Maybe the Council decided to save a few, even if they arn't the Councils favrite species.

If you choose the Geth then a Geth Fleet arrive from outside the system tha never shows up otherwise... a Fleet that wasn't helping the Reaper controled Geth.... They might have been the Geth's evacuation and survival Project, maybe they had a set destination for Another galaxy aswell... Andromeda? Since it's nearby and outside of the Reach of the Reapers presumably. The Geth didn't want to get wiped out by the Quarians or Reapers or Reaperized.
If you choose the Quarians or Peace nothing is mentioned about it.

The Geth probably had two contingency plans,
1: Escape the threat like their creators did when they were about to get wiped out and go to Another Galaxy.
2: Build a Super Dreadnaught to help defend themselves.
3: Live as prisoners hoping for an eventual Release. (If someone else would pull off a Synthesis later, they would have been free of the Catalyst)

The Council really don't like or trust the Geth and likely wouldn't invite them unless they had something vital for the mission which forced them to agree to the deal. The Geth had known about this threat longer than anyone, and might have been preparing for quite some time.

The Hanar and Drell arn't wiped out just because their homeworlds defences would collapse. It would take at least as long a time to hunt down Hanar in the Deep oceans of the Hanar homeworld as it woudl take to hunt down Humans on Earth.. If you and Kasumi save them from sabotage their homeworld is untouched by the Reapers, one of very few Worlds to pull that off.
They arn't dead in any scenario.

Elcor failed to airlift a lot of their people, but part of their problem was that the population was spread out over the whole World. This also made Reaper progress slwoer since they wern't as dencely packed in population centres. I expect them to survive in anything but Refuse just like every other species pretty much.
Not sure if they will be brought on board the ARK Project, they got very limited Resources to offer, there might be a few spots for the evacuated people.

Krogans, I Think they were confirmed already in a video.

Batarians, I wouldn't cry rivers if they don't make it to Andromeda, they would survive in the Milkyway anyway. They were mostly content on the side, never an imporatant part of the ME:Universe.

The Council species will certainly be there.

I expect Bioware to find a way to include the most popular species.

Then you got the possibility that the ARK took millenia to travel to the Andromeda Galaxy, the Geth could have made it there faster sicne they didn't have to care about frail Organic needs.... And the Geth were the Remnants... They figured out the meaning of Life and Another singularity and in that moment their existance as we know it ended. Leaving only ruins of advanced Tech behind.
Weird but just as likely ans any other crack pot theory.... People don't like Ancient humans, lets see how they like remnants of Ancient Geth that figured out that Life was all about 42 variants of meaningless and suffering. Now that would be pretty dark.

[Helios969]

@Shotgun Julia:  In the described timeline being post Thessia then the players have already made the decision regarding the Geth-Quarian conflict.  Bioware would have to account for that in whatever synopsis they contrive moving forward.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

@Shotgun Julia:  In the described timeline being post Thessia then the players have already made the decision regarding the Geth-Quarian conflict.  Bioware would have to account for that in whatever synopsis they contrive moving forward.

 

Which is why I said that we wouldn't see either of them. It requires setting a canon. So not setting a canon mean neither.

 

Reason:

 

1) If the Geth survive they are part of Sword fleet and don't know about the Ark project since they weren't brought in from the beginning. Why would the Council notify the Geth about a secret project after they just fought against them in the Battle of the Citadel. Only Shepard knows about the Heretics, and Shepard  was with Cerberus. I still don't think that our three remaining Council members would inform the Geth and say "come along."

 

2) The Quarians being in the Migrant Fleet are considered outcasts by the Council. They would not know about secret Council projects that Shepard didn't even know about. After all, the Council wouldn't even give them a new homeworld after nearly 300 years. So if  the Quarians won, they'd be setting up shop on Rannoch. Their fleet would become part of Sword Fleet. "Leave them to fight the Reapers! If they win, they have their homeworld."

 

3) If you made peace, neither side knew about the Ark Project, so both sides become part of Sword Fleet.

 

4) Kasumi could be dead in ME3, and if she's dead the Hanar defenses collapse. So maybe they're not dead, but not part of the Ark Project.

 

5) The Elcor, like the Hanar were IMO a joke race so would be left behind.

 

The reason for my "negative" post eliminating some of the species from ME:A is resources. It doesn't mean that they didn't survive in the MW. Bioware also has to make room for new species in Andromeda.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Actually Bioware has it canon that despite whatever happens on Rannoch, there are still Geth and Quarians around. So regardless of what happened in the Milky Way, both races can show up in Andromeda. 

 

As for the other races, they are spread across the galaxy which means even if their homeworld falls they are still around.

[themikefest]

The game will start with everyone celebrating the 300th anniversary of leaving the Milky Way. hahaha

[DoomsdayDevice]

The move to a different galaxy is probably to avoid having to deal with the endings.

Don't expect them to address the endings in any way, shape or form.

It's just a massive cop-out.

[Regan_Cousland]

Reading people's posts, I just thought of something that could be quite cool.

If the intro of the story is indeed set during the Reaper War, before this alleged Ark ship sets off on its long exodus to the Andromeda Galaxy, the Pathfinder could, theoretically, receive a good-luck message from Commander Shepard before departure.

If that did happen, we'd almost certainly receive an audio message or a holographic message from a fully armoured and helmeted Commander Shepard. That way there'd be no reason to recreate our Shepard's appearance in the game.
 

[Killroy]

Reading people's posts, I just thought of something that could be quite cool.

If the intro of the story is indeed set during the Reaper War, before this alleged Ark ship sets off on its long exodus to the Andromeda Galaxy, the Pathfinder could, theoretically, receive a good-luck message from Commander Shepard before departure.

If that did happen, we'd almost certainly receive an audio message or a holographic message from a fully armoured and helmeted Commander Shepard. That way there'd be no reason to recreate our Shepard's appearance in the game.

Haven't we had enough hamfisted fan-service in Mass Effect?

[BMcDill]

Just a thought, the departure could be set some time in late Mass Effect 2.  I don’t think it will happen but it could.  I do think, however, that The Ark Projected starts in Mass 2.  I don’t care what Anderson says, there were people who knew the Reepers were real and they were scared enough to keep it quite and were working very hard in the background to prepare for it.  We all know that Admiral Hacket had no illusions about the Reeper threat.

 

You could have Geth and Quarian’s if you leave before Act III in Mass Effect 3.  Remember there were Geth opposed to the Reepers. The Quarian’s could have sent a group to join the effort for the same reason everyone else is joining, despite having Geth on board. The Quarians are the only race that knows how to live on ships.  They have been doing that for a couple hundred years.  It has been noted a couple of times that they have salvage junked ships and brought them up to speed with limited resources.  I would think they would make a logical addition to the crew, as would the Geth.

 

The Geth need no sleep, no food, no air, they are the perfect maintained crew and a solid addition to the ships crew over all.  They would also make perfect probes, of a sort should you need to use them that way on a very questionable journey.

If, and this is the big if, you could, story wise figure out a logical way get them on the same ship….not sure how you would do that, I could see bot there.

 

I hope the Volus are there, or maybe just the Biotic God.

 

I agree all the other dominant races will be on board as well.

 

If I had to pick a time when the game will start I would say somewhere in/between Act II and Act III.  I think we might start playing while Shep is out and about in Mass Effect 3.  But I also think this Ark projected started in Mass 2

 

Someone from Bioware said Shep “would not be a playable character”.  Having read that I agree with the other post here, we might just see him/her before we launch.  I doubt there will be any interaction.  We might even see our characters face if the do a Keep like import.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If, and this is the big if, you could, story wise figure out a logical way get them on the same ship….not sure how you would do that, I could see bot there.

Well, we know that any Quarian or ship can leave the Migrant Fleet at any time if they so choose. Perhaps there are some Quarians who didn't want to fight the Geth, either because they thought the attack would fail or don't blame the Geth for the Morning War, in which case they don't have much animosity towards the Geth that would be on the ship.