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[iM3GTR]

Yeah, what Han said.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

yes it does.

 

Not defending the idea, but it does. It would be awful writing unworthy even of Blizzard tier shlock to have you just start in andromeda as a clone shepard child for no reason, but identical DNA is unsurprisingly identical.

No, it doesn't. Say there are two brothers, named Bob and Bill. Bob and Bill are identical twins. Bob got married and had a kid. You're saying that kid is also the son of Bill because Bob and Bill are identical? 

[mickey111]

.it would require canonizing a LI, and possibly a gender for Shepard in order to have their descendant as the protagonist.

 

 

Why?

[TheButterflyEffect]

I doubt Bioware would have made as big of a deal out of Shepard not returning if the protagonist of Andromeda was a Shepardspawn. Also, as already pointed out...it would require canonizing a LI, and possibly a gender for Shepard in order to have their descendant as the protagonist. That's a route Bioware is never going to go.

 

Hero dynasties make some sense in a setting like Star Wars, where there is a class of superhumans (force users) who often inherit their abilities from parents, and where the Force has a will of its own, resulting in prophecies and chosen one heroes.  It does not make sense in Mass Effect, which compared to Star Wars leans much closer to hard Sci Fi than Fantasy. Shepard's descendants shouldn't be imbued with any special or magical traits that make them more likely to stand out from their peers.

 

The Mass Effect universe is a big place filled with trillions of people. I think there is more than enough room for heroes not named Shepard. 

 

They wouldn't have to canonize anything, if Shepard was just a distant ancestor they don't have to refer to Shepard with gender specific pronouns, or speak of who the other DNA donor was.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

that isn't what happened.

Yes it is. A clone is the same thing as an identical twin. It is a person who has the exact same DNA as another person. Bioware even has a quest about this in Mass Effect 2 where we rescue Miranda's twin sister Oriana and realize they are clones. 

[mickey111]

Yes it is. A clone is the same thing as an identical twin. It is a person who has the exact same DNA as another person. Bioware even has a quest about this in Mass Effect 2 where we rescue Miranda's twin sister Oriana and realize they are clones. 

I feel its a moot point for the purposes of a player character you control and make choices for. This isn't like Oriana and Miranda, because they don't suffer as the player character does from having a detailed back story. Which is of course one good reason why I oppoose the shepard clone kid idea.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I feel its a moot point for the purposes of a player character you control and make choices for. This isn't like Oriana and Miranda, because they don't suffer as the player character does from having a detailed back story. Which is of course one good reason why I oppoose the shepard clone kid idea.

I oppose the idea as well. 

[themikefest]

My femshep had a child with Harbinger. hahaha.  Does that mean I get to play as a reaper for the main character? ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. hahahaha

 

Do not want to play as a descendant of Shepard

[Han Shot First]

Why?

 

TheButterflyEffect, on 10 Oct 2015 - 06:48 AM, said:
They wouldn't have to canonize anything, if Shepard was just a distant ancestor they don't have to refer to Shepard with gender specific pronouns, or speak of who the other DNA donor was.

 

Humans and aliens can't have children. It is biologically impossible because they are two completely unrelated species, so you can't have a descendant of Shepard if Shepard was involved with Tali or Garrus. Asari are sort of an exception, but even then the child would not truly be a descendant of Shepard whether or not she would view herself that way. The Asari reproduce through parthenogenesis and all Asari children are 100% Asari, regardless of the species the 'father' comes from. 

 

Descendants would also be a bit tricky if the players rolled a Shep that was homosexual and involved with Traynor, Kelly Chambers, Kaidan, or Cortez. 

 

Miranda Lawson was infertifle.

 

The devs couldn't go with a descendant of Shepard without either rendering some potential pairings officially non-canon or going the test tube baby/ surrogate route.

 

Luckily the devs won't be going there and the protagonist of Andromeda is almost certainly not named Shepard. Thank the Goddess or the Spirits or whomever....

[Iakus]

Child of maleShep and Allers.  Fling canon.  Heard it here first 

[Han Shot First]

Child of maleShep and Allers.  Fling canon.  Heard it here first 

 

[BabyPuncher]

They could always make it optional.

 

BioWare's run with much stupider ideas.

[mickey111]

Humans and aliens can't have children. It is biologically impossible because they are two completely unrelated species, so you can't have a descendant of Shepard if Shepard was involved with Tali or Garrus. Asari are sort of an exception, but even then the child would not truly be a descendant of Shepard whether or not she would view herself that way. The Asari reproduce through parthenogenesis and all Asari children are 100% Asari, regardless of the species the 'father' comes from. 

 

Descendants would also be a bit tricky if the players rolled a Shep that was homosexual and involved with Traynor, Kelly Chambers, Kaidan, or Cortez. 

 

Miranda Lawson was infertifle.

 

The devs couldn't go with a descendant of Shepard without either rendering some potential pairings officially non-canon or going the test tube baby/ surrogate route.

 

Luckily the devs won't be going there and the protagonist of Andromeda is almost certainly not named Shepard. Thank the Goddess or the Spirits or whomever....

 

Again, Shepard is 29, and mass effect was only a short part of shepards life-span. they can't cannonize a thing that the games and books never mentioned. The actual term would be retcon, and not in a good way...

[Han Shot First]

Again, Shepard is 29, and mass effect was only a short part of shepards life-span. they can't cannonize a thing that the games and books never mentioned. The actual term would be retcon, and not in a good way...

 

Sure, it would. 

 

If they are going to make Shepard have human children by natural means at some date after ME3 it would canonize Shepard's survival (High EMS Destroy), potentially that Shepard isn't homosexual, and that any previous relationships with alien LIs either never happened or ended prior to Shepard starting a family with someone else.

 

There's no way Bioware could go about that without pissing off a lot of people, which is just another reason in a long list why it would never happen.

[mickey111]

*sigh* oh god, really? Do humans in Mass Effect not reach fertility before the age of 29?

[Gonder]

Well, if this became canon, my paragon Shepard's child would have to either be incredibly human influenced, or, an adopted human child that does not share his blood. As for my renegade, well, he wasn't famous for settling down, and, he died at the end of 3. His only solution would be that he accidentally impregnated a woman at some point during the three games.

 

Weird concept, but, I kind of dig it.  Don't even ask why. 

 

*Goes to post the response, but then realises something vital* Oh, yeah, that's right, Andromeda is supposed to be far into the future, like, beyond a human's lifespan. Oh well, disregard everything I said, or, pretend that they all raised families and continued fourth unto this day!

 

This just got weirder.

[PlatonicWaffles]

I really, really hope not. The Mass Effect trilogy is my favourite series in gaming (not favourite game though) with some of my favourite characters of all time. But if Andromeda is promising a clean slate I expect that to extend to the protagonist too.

[Former_Fiend]

Humans and aliens can't have children. It is biologically impossible because they are two completely unrelated species, so you can't have a descendant of Shepard if Shepard was involved with Tali or Garrus. Asari are sort of an exception, but even then the child would not truly be a descendant of Shepard whether or not she would view herself that way. The Asari reproduce through parthenogenesis and all Asari children are 100% Asari, regardless of the species the 'father' comes from. 

 

Descendants would also be a bit tricky if the players rolled a Shep that was homosexual and involved with Traynor, Kelly Chambers, Kaidan, or Cortez. 

 

Miranda Lawson was infertifle.

 

The devs couldn't go with a descendant of Shepard without either rendering some potential pairings officially non-canon or going the test tube baby/ surrogate route.

 

Luckily the devs won't be going there and the protagonist of Andromeda is almost certainly not named Shepard. Thank the Goddess or the Spirits or whomever....

 

Well, to be fair, Traynor did want kids.

[AlanC9]

Well, to be fair, Traynor did want kids.

 

 

It's hardly impossible, given the tech in the MEU. Get some donated sperm, swap out everything but the Y chromosome for a set of Shepard's genes, and you're good to go -- I assume we'd be implanting in Traynor since Shepard might have to go shoot something. No harder than what they did to make Miranda; probably have a smaller chance of defects since you're not getting fancy and trying to mod anything. Similar procedure for Shepard-Cortez,

 

(Not that I want to defend the OP's awful idea, but this could be made to work.)

[Former_Fiend]

Yeah, to be very clear, I'm against this idea adamantly. 

[AresKeith]

Booo BE is back

[Chardonney]

Or at least the PC can claim this, but other characters will be skeptical. Or, if Shepard had a non-human lover, or partook in no romance at all, can outright call them a liar. In a twist, especially if Shep's lover was human, it may actually be true.

 

 

Also, if we're leaving to Andromeda before the ending of ME3... yeah.

[themikefest]

Sam does mention wanting kids and the look on femshep suggests she would having kids as well

 

Shepard can be dead. So can Samantha if ems is below 1750 and destroy is chosen

[Sion1138]

Reincarnation more like.

[AtreiyaN7]

That would be interesting, considering that Shepard is dead in every ending, unless you want to count that special breath scene or whatever. How are you going to explain a dead femShep and Kaidan (in my case) having a kid? Even before her death, my femShep was not pregnant at any point in time - ever.

 

I did see someone mentioning a clone up above as a possibility as to how we might hypothetically end up a genetic descendant of Shepard, but we have already had one clone (now dead as far as I know) who was basically part of a fanservice DLC. The idea of other Shepard clones floating around who had babies or the protagonist being another clone of Shepard really stretches credibility at this point. Shepard is not Big Boss, and the ME universe is a little less eccentric than that of the MGS universe, so I really don't think that clones or their progeny should be popping out of the woodwork.

 

It would be dumb to use the clone thing again - bottom line. This is starting to remind me of the DA forums where people who can't let go of their Warden and think that the Warden should star in every DA game. *sigh*

 

P.S. If the Ark actually leaves during the events of ME3 and the exploration of Andromeda is occurring concurrent with the events of ME3, then I don't see how a Shep baby could work as the main character at all since a Shep baby would, you know, be a baby. I'm not sure how that's supposed to work unless you communicate with your crew via cooing/babbling and have someone carry you around in a papoose to explore planets. It would only MAYBE work if it were a generation ship and any hypothetical Shep baby had time to grow into adulthood (and even then, I still find that it stretches credibility to involve Shepard yet again and feel that he/she should be laid to rest).