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[7twozero]

Thanks, I didn't even know there were books, that's too bad but oh well.

[Ahglock]

It's a series of books that heavily inspired the monk class in D&D. It unfortunately had enough hate based ranting in it I felt uncomfortable reading it. No idea if it's authors viewpoint or an ironic attempt at portraying the far right. But it felt genuine which made the read icky for lack of a better term.

I come from a conservative household so seeing the ideology of my parents and some of my siblings warped to that degree did not strike a positive chord. That much hate reveals more about you than your targets.

Which bringing it into a ME line it's something I hope they stay away from. While I definitely think certain ideologies were favored I feel the ME1 renegade=hate filled racist was the wrong track. It's okay to have hate filled jerk as an option just don't tie it to a more general philosophy. Especially when some of the paraphrases could catch you off guard.

[EliotNesss]

I hope they announce something like the Mass Effect Trilogy versions for PC and BC XBox One Console contains all DLC, for all 3 installments, in a new Deluxe version. And at a blowout price of $19.99 as a pre Andromeda launch teaser. I'd jump all over that one for my PC gaming rig!

[Luke Pearce]

I hope they announce something like the Mass Effect Trilogy versions for PC and BC XBox One Console contains all DLC, for all 3 installments, in a new Deluxe version. And at a blowout price of $19.99 as a pre Andromeda launch teaser. I'd jump all over that one for my PC gaming rig!

 

With gameplay for ME1 and ME2 to be upgraded to be on-par with ME3. Oh and all graphics being upgraded to Unreal 4/Frostbite 3.

 

#dreamsthatwonthappen

[elinema]

I don't think they will release anything but merch, but they might finally answer some of our stupid questions -> stupid question day/stupid answer day.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

Thanks, I didn't even know there were books, that's too bad but oh well.

I'll give a counterpoint to Ahglock's explanation. The Destroyer novels were (are?) a series of pulpish men's adventure novels from the 70's on. There were a number of series that fake and went from the era, most notably the Executioner series featuring Mack Bolan, who was very likely the inspiration and model for the Punisher character.

The basic premise of the series was that the American Constitution was failing and that those forces attacking it couldn't be stopped because of the rules imposed by the Constitution itself. President Kennedy created a shadow agency called CURE to quietly deal with the greatest threats to the Constitution. He assigned a former OSS officer, Harold Smith, to monitor activity with supercomputers, and he would take subtle action to expose crime and political corruption.

Eventually, CURE required a licensed-to-kill enforcement arm, and that grew into the Remo Williams/Chiun/Master of Sinanju thing.

The series started out taking itself seriously, like The Executioner. Eventually, though, it settled into its own groove and adopted a more humorous approach. It was also written from a very conservative viewpoint, and it was not the least bit apologetic about it. It certainly would rankle the sensibilities of a modern leftist, since one of the themes was the destruction of the Constitution largely by the ascent of progressive leftism.

The early part of the series wouldn't fit on the PC scale these days. But my recollection of the series is that it treated characters as individuals and reserved the vitriolic humor for political ideas, as opposed to groups. I think the tone of the series settled down over time, much as the fierce political climate of the 70's did.

Anyway, the movie wasn't likely to capture the feel of the books, and it didn't (although Joel Grey was pretty good).

[Ahglock]

That is a good sum up of the series. For me the vitriolic humor as you put it just went too far. It felt like it was coming from a dark place. Maybe because I grew up in a conservative household(always want to type hh for that my works case comments bleed over) in a liberal community but we just never were brought up with those ideas about our neighbors and their beliefs. For me its as kooky as hating someone because their religion is different than yours. It's just a different philosophy on life.

The actual philisophy in the books didn't bother me at all, just the hate or vitriolic humor as you put it. Left and right don't really fit for me in the American sense. My co-workers describe me as an anarchist which is probably the closest ideology. And yet I work in a government aid job. Le sigh got to pay the bills.

Which again in a ME sense I don't mind the new protagonist espousing various philosophies on the assumed return of renegade v paragon. Just hopefully not out of bigoted hate. Or have a bigoted hate version of both paragon and renegade. But make it clearly labeled so I can avoid it outside of my joke runs.