135 réponses à ce sujet

[GoldenGail3]

Put me down for badass normal as well.  It's just makes for a more compelling story most of the time.

'Most of the time....' Remembers Hawke's sad face in the fade during my Warden Alistair playthough. I hated Hawke, I felt no emotions towards Hawke when something bad happened to them. I mean I felt like 'oh, carry on. My mother just died a horrible death'. Then my LI stole a book and I was tempted to punch a wall. A wall of 'LET ME WIN ONE TIME! GOSH! THIS LOSING ISNT FUN!' I have a lot of beef with Hawke....

[KumoriYami]

Badass normal... or empowered badass normal. I'm not particularly fond when special snowflake features are the answer to whatever world-threating problem the protag has to deal with, meaning its all over for everyone else when they die. 

[Almostfaceman]

I would like to keep a reasonable amount of pressure on any game maker or story teller to surprise me and give me something I didn't know I wanted until they gave it to me. 

 

I think if you start telling the author or developer "okay, I'll settle for X"... that's what they may shoot for instead of trying to make something excellent, original, inventive. 

 

I stress "reasonable". Everything must be made with a market and a budget in mind. 

 

Take Batman vs. Superman for instance. Batman, for many, would be a "safe" bet to tell interesting stories with since he's a "relate-able" super hero. And that's fine. But, don't let that scare people from trying to take Superman and making him interesting within his god-like power set. Stretch that imagination. Flex those ideas. 

[Aren]

Fenris is what i would define as an IN-Between since he has unique ability not plot critical.

[Hydwn]

My personal; preference would be for another Hawke, if only because it would be strange for the hero to get a strange and unique power once per episode.  

 

Every game has been a deconstruction of the superheroic and pure fantasy hero - the Wardens' power kills them and their order has done terrible things to survive, Hawke is an ordinary refugee who just happens to be good at fighting and can't save the world, and the Inquisitor just lucked into his powers.  Having another person just lucky enough to pick up a magic artifact would be pretty dull.  It would also slip out of the realm of deconstruction and back into full-blown trope.

 

The only barrier to another Hawke is Tevinter itself, though.  They have three social classes of human mages before you even get to human rogues and warriors.  Dwarves are outside their social strata, elves are the bottom, and qunari are likely attacked on sight.  The Wardens took everyone, the Inquisitor was (un)lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time.  

 

If we have another Hawke, how would they have any room to manoeuvre in Tevinter?  Would they be a criminal?  An escaped slave?  Would they be an outsider?  Why would Tevinter in its arrogance trust a leader of any kind who was from the outside, maybe not human or a mage...?

 

That doesn't mean it can't be done.  But there would be a lot of lore to work around to give us a robust character creature for a non-superpowered hero in Tevinter.

[Ashagar]

I wouldn't want another Hawke. Hawke had bad luck to the point I seen people with better luck in black comedies set in Warhammer 40k, it was like a demonic  superpower that brought ruin to all it touched.

 

I'd much rather someone who has reason to have some power for once because of their station or job in life and not because they are some random person from nowhere with horrific luck or randomly given power. For instance you could be a Tevinter military officer fighting against the Qunari or a member of a Tevinter agency who got wind of Solas's agents and are investigating to find out what they are up to in tevinter.

[Ski Mask Wei]

'Most of the time....' Remembers Hawke's sad face in the fade during my Warden Alistair playthough. I hated Hawke, I felt no emotions towards Hawke when something bad happened to them. I mean I felt like 'oh, carry on. My mother just died a horrible death'. Then my LI stole a book and I was tempted to punch a wall. A wall of 'LET ME WIN ONE TIME! GOSH! THIS LOSING ISNT FUN!' I have a lot of beef with Hawke....

 

Hawke does get to win a ton he just also takes some major (L)s too.  I'm pretty sure escaping the Blight, escaping soul-crushing poverty, and getting the Qunari out Kirkwall count as big wins.  Or was that just my character?  

 

Anyway my main point is about stories in general.  Ordinary people dealing with extraordinary problems usually makes for a more compelling story because of the extra layer of difficulty in solving problems.  Imagine if the Inquisitor had to solve if the Breach without the godhand.  Maybe he has to go on this wild hunt to find Flemeth to get answers instead throwing their hand in the air and waving it like they just don't care.  Or how about the Rift under the lake in Crestwood?  I'd bet most people would say that's most interesting normal Rift in the whole game.  Why?  Not because of the fight mechanics, but because the whole ordeal around it.             

[Donk]

I wouldn't want another Hawke. Hawke had bad luck to the point I seen people with better luck in black comedies set in Warhammer 40k, it was like a demonic  superpower that brought ruin to all it touched.

 

I'd much rather someone who has reason to have some power for once because of their station or job in life and not because they are some random person from nowhere with horrific luck or randomly given power. For instance you could be a Tevinter military officer fighting against the Qunari or a member of a Tevinter agency who got wind of Solas's agents and are investigating to find out what they are up to in tevinter.

 

Damn, no wonder DA2 was my favourite in the series.

[Dabrikishaw]

People who are for another Hawke only mean they want someone that isn't given something that makes them critical to the plot, like The Warden(taint) or the Inquisitor(Mark).

 

People who are against another Hawke(like me) just don't want another repeat of Hawke's non-importance and stupid high amount of bad luck to the point where all they did was make things worse.

 

I said earlier that I had no preference playing any of the three options stressed in the OP precisely because of what I typed about Hawke. He can have all the special snowflakness in the world and it wouldn't mean anything if he was just the same level of failure as he was in Dragon Age ][.

[Heimdall]

I would prefer a character that doesn't have some special power, I suppose.  It starts to feel gimmicky if each new hero got something like that.

 

Still, something unique does help explain why this particular character is involved, so let that something be knowledge or an event, not a power.

[Forsythia77]

Hawke is like Batman.  Batman, as a superhero, has zero special powers.  He just as a bunch of cool techy gadgets and a sweet tricked out ride.   So from that respect, I do like that Hawke is just a normal girl who was thrust into abnormal circumstance and dealt with it to the best of her ability with no special powers.  So Hawke has a bunch of cool gear.. but sadly, she does not have a sweet ride.