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[Kakistos_]

I did not disband. The "there will be spies and corruption" explanation is not nearly good enough a reason to disband a powerful and wildly successful organization. We knew there would be spies from day one, that is nothing new. I don't recall but one of the first codex entries or ambient dialogs we here when we first arrive at Skyhold is about the inevitability of spies. Every nation and organization in Thedas including, ironically, Orlais and Ferelden has spies and some level of corruption. We even HELP them rout some of it out it in major ways during the campaign. Why should the Inquisition be held to an unreasonable golden standard? Even the Qun has spies, you don't see the Arishok going: "Welp, that's it, we have spies y'all, time to pack up and go home. The Qun is a lie, Zelda will save us. On to Hyrule!" 

[Qun00]

Corruption was never the real problem. Both disbanding and shrinking the Inquisition to a manageable size are an acceptable solution to that.

The question is whether having it work for the Chantry is a good idea.

Of course, it makes sense that this is the only alternative since the Inquisition needs a clearer identity than "problem fixer" and most of its support comes from religious beliefs.

The worrying part is the future. While we certainly can trust Leliana/Cassandra not to misuse the Honor Guard's military power, the next Divine may abuse it.

[Boost32]

In my game, Vivienne was Divine. There is no way in hell I would voluntarily give her more power.

Vivienne was the Divine in my game. I did voluntarily and gladly gave her more power. But thats because I agree with hey view and I like her.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Vivienne was the Divine in my game. I did voluntarily and gladly gave her more power. But thats because I agree with hey view and I like her.

Shine on you crazy diamond.

[IanPolaris]

Vivienne was the Divine in my game. I did voluntarily and gladly gave her more power. But thats because I agree with hey view and I like her.

 

Well that's one of you.  I've grown to dislike Vivienne (and Sera as well) so much that I willfully ignore their attempts to get recruited.  Yes, I have grown to despise both of them that much and from what I can tell, that seems to be the more typical reaction to those two.

 

To each their own of course, but frankly Madam de Fleur is the last person in Thedas that should have working control over something as powerful as the Inquisition (or Circle of Magi for that matter).

[Boost32]

Shine on you crazy diamond.

Thanks.

To each their own of course, but frankly Madam de Fleur is the last person in Thedas that should have working control over something as powerful as the Inquisition (or Circle of Magi for that matter).

Thats what I think about Leliana.

[IanPolaris]

Thats what I think about Leliana.

 

The difference in my view is that at least Lelianna can admit to being flawed and sometimes mistaken.  Vivienne is absolutely right and perfect and if you doubt this, all you have to do is ask her.

[Regan_Cousland]

I think "angry disband" will be my canon decision. Vivienne is my Divine, and -- although she and I are good friends -- I can't trust her or the Chantry to steer the Inquisition in the right direction. They're likely to cause more problems than they solve.

 

It's probably better if my inquisitor and her inner circle start from scratch, free from religious oversight and the threat of infiltration.

Plus, my inquisitor is a former carta "agent" -- which, in my personal headcanon, is the carta equivalent of a Spectre: the best of the best -- someone who usually works alone or in very small groups. She's used to hanging out in caves and secret rooms and places that respectable folk would fear to tread. In fact, as the almighty herald, she's missed living under the radar. It's time to get back to what she does best. 

[Boost32]

The difference in my view is that at least Lelianna can admit to being flawed and sometimes mistaken.  Vivienne is absolutely right and perfect and if you doubt this, all you have to do is ask her.

To me it doesnt matter. What matter to me, is mages in the Circle and a competent person as Divine, Leliana doesnt fullfill both of those requisites.

[medusa_hair]

I disbanded, done protecting an ungrateful bunch of jerks. Tired and lost after getting pushed away again by LI Solas one time, the next time wanting to wander off with Blackwall, and the third time married to Cullen. I just couldnt keep sacrificing to protect those who weren't going to like it no matter what I did so I disbanded every time, no matter who was divine.

[AshenEndymion]

The difference in my view is that at least Lelianna can admit to being flawed and sometimes mistaken.  Vivienne is absolutely right and perfect and if you doubt this, all you have to do is ask her.

 

Vivienne doesn't believe herself to be perfect. She knows that she's a mage, and that such a status makes her truly flawed.  But Vivienne is willing to use that flaw in a productive and, more importantly, Chantry-sanctioned way in order to help make Thedas a better place for the normal people...

 

Vivienne's views on how to make Thedas a better place are absolutely right and perfect, though...

[Commander of the Grey]

I always disband. Mainly because of all that was going on behind my back during Trespasser. If the Qunari had detonated all of that Gattlok spread across Thedas, and it was linked back to the Inquisition in any way (wouldn't surprise me if those spies had paperwork with the Inquisition's seal or something for all of them) that alone would have buried us. Who's to say something like that won't be successful next time while our attention is focused on him?

 

I'd rather start from scratch, keep it simpler. Like Solas suggested to Sera that no one cell know what the other is doing. I know folks like to claim that Solas is a failure and keeps messing things up but I don't completely agree. He has succeeded at everything he wanted to happen. It's the fallout of them that sucked, none of which was in his control. The guy knows what he's doing when it comes to secret maneuvers and outsmarting folks. Thousands of years of wisdom and cunning won't be stopped with sheer numbers alone, if at all. 

 

I also like that on one hand he's helping us by offering us such a warning but I can't help but believe it's just another maneuver by him. Of course he'd want us to disband and make our forces weaker against him in the future. And leaves us feeling like it's our decision in the end when either way he probably believes he'll succeed. 

[Qun00]

Keep Vivienne out of this.

Every thread where her name is mentioned is inevitably ruined.

[Ski Mask Wei]

I was gonna disband but after Keyser Solas revealed his master plan and after being shocked from losing a hand I had to keep the inquisition going.  It also didn't help that Cassie Divine was my boo thang.  Even being an atheist, freedom-loving mage who hated the chantry losing the Inquisition on top of that would have been too much.   

 

Plus Solas has to die.  No use throwing away the best tool to get him.      

[straykat]

Integrated back to Chantry/Divine Leliana

 

 

Except I haven't bought this. Just what I know what would play out given my choices.

[Aesir26]

I haven't finished Trespasser yet, which makes me wonder why I'm on these forums right now. However, I'm currently leaning towards disbanding the Inquisition.

 

My male Lavellan Inquisitor never really used the Inquisition as a crutch since it was only to stop Corypheus. On top of that he has plenty of new friends and in my game he still has a clan to go back to, so since Corypheus is dead I don't think he would really see any reason to keep it going.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Keep Vivienne out of this.

Every thread where her name is mentioned is inevitably ruined.

 

[TheWardenBrothers1701]

My elf girl disbanded, her Divine was softened Leliana and it was nothing to spite her. She loves her Divine but Siani grew tired of politicians snapping at her heels and trying to manipulate her, throughout Trespasser she was growing more and more frustrated and ended on the aggressive disband lol big change from the shy elf she was in the beginning.

 

She did it to close ranks and go after Solas (her love interest) with a small trusted underground group rather than a large organization. She wants keep it hand on and not be a figure head standing way above the operations. Handling Solas is her responsibility, he was part of her inner circle and her lover, and she won't deal with the politics anymore.

[KingofTime]

It wont matter in the next game anyway.

[Iakus]

I haven't finished Trespasser yet, which makes me wonder why I'm on these forums right now. However, I'm currently leaning towards disbanding the Inquisition.

 

My male Lavellan Inquisitor never really used the Inquisition as a crutch since it was only to stop Corypheus. On top of that he has plenty of new friends and in my game he still has a clan to go back to, so since Corypheus is dead I don't think he would really see any reason to keep it going.

I was on the edge of disbanding them right up until the very end.

 

Then it became a much harder question 

[Cantina]

Interesting so many disbanded.

 

I kept The Inquisition as Peacekeepers.

 

I felt as though Solas revealing he has spies within the organization was his way to try and push the choice to disband.

 

Then you got people wanting the Inquisition to merge with The Chantry. No just no. Being leashed does not sound fun.

 

Then you got grumpy grandpa Tegan wanting it to disband. Uh no.

 

I felt as though my Quizzy doing what people did not expect seemed like the best route to go.

 

Despite the peoples idiotic reasons to see the Inquisition leashed or disbanded; it was formed to stop whoever created The Breech. The person is still at large and thus the mission is far from over.

 

Keeping the organization open maybe a gamble but so is disbanding and joining The Chantry. Suppose will see what happens in DA 4. If the choice makes any difference.

[Aesir26]

I was on the edge of disbanding them right up until the very end.

 

Then it became a much harder question 

 

XD I just finished it yesterday and you're right, the ending made it much harder to decide.

 

In the end I decided to officially disband them. Both because of the reason I stated previously and because I favoured the idea of having a smaller force full of people that my Inquisitor could place his absolute trust in. It seemed more effective for things like travelling and getting information without getting too much attention.

Although my Andrastian Trevelyan will likely end up tying the Inquisition to the chantry whenever I manage to finish that particular playthrough.

[NoForgiveness]

It wont matter in the next game anyway.

Good input. Thanks for sharing.

[Boost32]

Interesting so many disbanded.
 
I kept The Inquisition as Peacekeepers.
 
I felt as though Solas revealing he has spies within the organization was his way to try and push the choice to disband.
 
Then you got people wanting the Inquisition to merge with The Chantry. No just no. Being leashed does not sound fun.
 
Then you got grumpy grandpa Tegan wanting it to disband. Uh no.
 
I felt as though my Quizzy doing what people did not expect seemed like the best route to go.
 
Despite the peoples idiotic reasons to see the Inquisition leashed or disbanded; it was formed to stop whoever created The Breech. The person is still at large and thus the mission is far from over.
 
Keeping the organization open maybe a gamble but so is disbanding and joining The Chantry. Suppose will see what happens in DA 4. If the choice makes any difference.

But you did join the Chantry if you kept the Inquisition.

[nOrio_26]

Corruption was never the real problem. Both disbanding and shrinking the Inquisition to a manageable size are an acceptable solution to that.

The question is whether having it work for the Chantry is a good idea.

Of course, it makes sense that this is the only alternative since the Inquisition needs a clearer identity than "problem fixer" and most of its support comes from religious beliefs.

The worrying part is the future. While we certainly can trust Leliana/Cassandra not to misuse the Honor Guard's military power, the next Divine may abuse it.

I think it will be ok, for the last moment of old Inquisition has no Inquisitor and divided into Seeker and Templar Order.