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Trespasser: To Disband or not to Disband


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#151
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But you did join the Chantry if you kept the Inquisition.

 

In a round-about way I suppose. I did not choose the option to be Honor Guard of  Divine Lilly even though I love her to bits. :)



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In a round-about way I suppose. I did not choose the option to be Honor Guard of  Divine Lilly even though I love her to bits. :)


But all options for keeping the Inquisition lead to it becoming the Divine honor guard.

#153
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I had mine disbanded. Solas was right. The Inquisition will be prone to corruption, just like the other organizations. It doesn't help the fact that there may be spies within the honor guard no matter how thorough their background checks are. Just like SHIELD in Avengers: AoU, it may be back when it's really needed. 

 

There's also the issue with potential conflicts with Divine Victoria. I had no problem with Cassandra, but it's Vivienne that I had concerns with (even if I like her).



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Haven't played yet but Peacekeeper = Divine Guard?

Didn't these idiots learn from the last accord...

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Haven't played yet but Peacekeeper = Divine Guard?
Didn't these idiots learn from the last accord...

Yes, it is.

The last accord went prety well, the peace was kept for 900 years, until a insane mage went Osama on a Chantry.

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I had mine disbanded. Solas was right. The Inquisition will be prone to corruption, just like the other organizations. It doesn't help the fact that there may be spies within the honor guard no matter how thorough their background checks are. Just like SHIELD in Avengers: AoU, it may be back when it's really needed.

There's also the issue with potential conflicts with Divine Victoria. I had no problem with Cassandra, but it's Vivienne that I had concerns with (even if I like her).


Everything that involves people is prone to corruption. It's silly to disband based on that.
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#157
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I'd prefer not be mired in the politics of southern Thedas and be dragged into other potential conflicts that would arise with being the honor guard for the Divine. Besides, the power of Inquisition laid in its central members who are almost all invested in stopping Solas anyway. 


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#158
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Keeping the organization open maybe a gamble but so is disbanding and joining The Chantry. Suppose will see what happens in DA 4. If the choice makes any difference.

 

I have a feeling it's going to go something like:

 

You try to stop something Solas or one of his agents is doing something like getting some artifact from some Elven ruin but...

 

(disbanded Inquisition) your small group wasn't strong enough to stop them from getting the artifact.

 

(Inquisition intact) there was a spy in the Inquisition (again) who tipped them off and you were too late to stop them from getting the artifact.


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I have a feeling it's going to go something like:

 

You try to stop something Solas or one of his agents is doing something like getting some artifact from some Elven ruin but...

 

(disbanded Inquisition) your small group wasn't strong enough to stop them from getting the artifact.

 

(Inquisition intact) there was a spy in the Inquisition (again) who tipped them off and you were too late to stop them from getting the artifact.

Gee, it's almost as if you've played a DA game before or something... :lol:


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Honestly, I have 8 inquisitors and they all have different reasons for disbanding or keeping the inquisition going. It really depends on their motivations for me.

 

For example, my elf Aithne is head over heels for Solas, and still really doesn't trust or like humans even at this late stage in the game. She trusts his plan and wants to be beside him, but since he won't allow her, she'll disband the inquisition and follow him as much as she can, keeping him safe in the shadows.

 

She said from the beginning she was only part of the inquisition to keep the world from falling apart, and now that Corypheus is dead she has no reason to stay and be part of the politics.



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I disbanded, though admittedly I played a character that always intended to disband (boy was I happy they actually let me do it in Trespasser).  That first discussion about the first Inquisition with Mother Giselle and how they put down their swords when they were no longer needed in the beginning of the game really left an impression on me.  I saw the Inquisition for what it was, a tool to help rebuild and support Southern Thedas and the organizations that reside there.  It was not to act a crutch, as such most of my decisions were based on the premise "building allies that can stand on their own".  Allying and rebuilding the Templars, Allying and having the Wardens survive their war table ops with minimum casualties, Celene and Brianne ruling in Tandem ... the Inquisition was there to lend a hand when needed, but that was it.

 

The decision in Trespasser for me then was easy, time to disband ... the tool of the Inquisition is no longer needed (or wanted it seems).  :D


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#162
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This is a question I'm trying to figure out for my canon playthrough so i was wondering where other people stood on the matter.

I've RPed my Lavellan inquisitor as someone who has come to cling to the Inquisition as a life raft, giving her purpose and structure in life. Disbanding the Inquisition could be a great thing to her, in that she would have moved past her dependence and found a new purpose. On the other hand... I still kind of like her as the head of the Inquisition. (Cassandra as Divine, who is the one I'm most comfortable tying the Inquisition to)

 

I disbanded as well for this reason:

 

  1. The inquisition task was done, Corypheus was killed mage were finally able to take teir lives in their own hand and peace was restabilished so the founding edict was fulfilled
  2. What Solas says at the end of Trespasser is true, as the inquisition grow in volume so it increase the chance of infiltration of different external power making a less valuable tool for opposing his plan (this in my opinion, i do not think that keeping the inquisition intact give a greater edge in thwarting Solas plans)
  3. I'll be dead before giving to the Chantry the templar order 2.0 and starting again the same **** that happened with mages.


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All the discussion had me thinking how strong the power of the chantry and divine have compare to the government and rulers.

It actually matters and it is one thing to consider if Inquisition is joining the chantry.



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I think Orlais and Ferelden should disband.

 

@berelinde:  Sadly, that's gamer's faults... not Biowares.  If they favored one over the other... the boards would explode with mad rage over unfairness... it already happens when most decision end in a wash... think about what would happen if they actually said:  This is the "right" one.



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Idk, spies don't concern me. I want maximum force against Solas when the time.comes and I have Cassandra as Divine, and I think Cassandra is the best Divine. Progressive but reasonable.

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Idk, spies don't concern me. I want maximum force against Solas when the time.comes and I have Cassandra as Divine, and I think Cassandra is the best Divine. Progressive but reasonable.

The problem is Cassy (or any Divine for that matter) cannot just do whatever she wants with the Chantry or the Inquisition.  My thoughts were that while the Inquisition would prove pretty helpful in terms of looking for Solas (the Inquisition spy network and allies would be great assest) the armed forces are all but useless assuming he is (say in a place like Tevinter).  An Orlesian, Southern Andrastian Chantry controlled (and funded) Inquistion cannot move into Tevinter (or another Independent nation) to pursue Solas without threatening war with them.

 

In the end if we do luck out and get a Dual PC or and a returning Inquisitor PC, while the Inquisition resources and spy network will assuredly help with the search for those who put the Inquisition under Chantry control, the Inquisition military forces simply cannot be counted on if Solas happens to be on foreign soil.  :(



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I definitely disbanded it, but in the back of my mind I see the state of the Inquisition post-Trespasser to be similar to an organization like the Thieves Guild in Skyrim.

 

Cue Lavellan in Nightingale armor.



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Please forgive any spelling errors, and this is my first post in English, and since I'm not an expert, I use the online translator.
 
Consider...
 
If Solas actually thought the Inquisition as a threat, could cause much more damage, allowing Qunari carry out their plan.
 
He did not.
 
Or let the anchor killed the Inquisitor.
 
Meanwhile, he saved him/her twice, helped build the organization and cared for those that suffer wrong.
 
He really would not need spies to check anyone. He is the Dreamer and he has at his disposal millions of spirits for 24 hours ... After that how he got branch Qunari, I do not think he needed an army to fight with Thedas forces.
 
And he did not answer just one question: about his future plans. In fact, we do not know what he was going to do. And I have a strong feeling that we can not effectively stop it by force. When it comes to spying - the Inquisition at the peak of its power, it could not trace him for two years, so...
 
So disbanded. We will not have authority over the Inquisition anymore, anyway.


#169
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Did not disband.

 

Rundown of all major plot points (as far as I can remember):

 

Male/Human/Mage/Knight-Enchanter

Inquisitor is Faithful

Inquisitor drank from Well of Sorrows

Inquisitor is a Red Jenny

Cassandra-mancer

Seekers being rebuilt

Iron Bull is Tal-Vashoth, Chargers live

Blackwall (Thom) forgiven

Cole more human

Cullen freed of lyrium

Dorian is best friend, has comm-stone

Josephine's family legacy restored

Vivienne given real snowy wyvern heart for potion

Allied with Mages

Grey Wardens granted second chance/rebuilt

Hawke (Male/Mage) survived, Stroud did not

Varric is Viscount, with Aveline as Guard-Captain and Hawke

Celene, Gaspard, Briala forced to play nice

Leliana inspired, is Divine

Alistair and Fiona rule Ferelden

All companions have high approval

Aim to redeem Solas

Misc: respectful to other cultures/races, i.e. dwarven tradition and elven lore, respected Solas and even agreed with his views on the Fade and magic.

 

The idea is that the Inquisition is no longer "the Inquisition" like that of old, but a peace-keeping force.  My thinking is that with the Inquisition serving as Leliana's honor guard, it will give Leliana the resources and power she needs to maintain that peace, whilst gathering information.

 

Some comment on how Solas was able to sneak in spies, and the Qunari were able to sneak in the gaatlok barrels; but look at how quickly they were discovered.

Why would I want to remove that?

 

I built my Inquisition on mercy, second chances, and faith; always trying to do what is RIGHT rather than what is politically correct wrong.  Adhering to principle instead of stupid.

I'm not going to throw that away.

 

Also, Solas doesn't necessarily know that Leliana is Divine, and all of his agents are likely to be elves, which means time is not on his side.

As more elves "disappear", the harder it's going to be for Solas to stay in the shadows, and it'll be harder for him to gather information.

That, and he's my friend, so if Solas is going to "try anything", he'll have to do it knowing that he is hurting his friend the Inquisitor.

 

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Basically, I'm appealing to his better nature, and in the process weakening the chances of the world ending (again) while continuing to be a beacon of peace, strength, and faith for Thedas.

Changing the Inquisition into Leliana's honor guard shows that while the PURPOSE of the Inquisition is no longer the case, what it REPRESENTS is still useful, still helpful, and still good.

 

To me, disbanding the Inquisition, though it was my original intent, would be a massive insult to my allies, my advisors, and my friends.  To disband would be to say "I don't trust you anymore, you were never really my friend" and would be a violation of everything we've worked for.

 

We fought the Red Templars and won, we fought the Venatori and won, we fought the Fear in the Fade and won, we fought Corypheus and won, we fought the Qunari and won.

 

We will win again.

Maker's will be done.


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#170
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My first (mage Trevelyan) Inquisitor, he joined Red Jenny, kept the Inquisition intact, and works for a softened Leliana Divine behind the scenes like a DA black ops crew. :P Not like the Seekers, that's Cass' project. So it's like Leli's Secret Avengers and Red Jenny joined forces. Mayhem for everyone. Works for me. :)

 

Oh, and he still got the second home with Josephine building her empire, join the family. He's gonna be busy. lol

 

edit:

@MichaelN7 That's basically how mine was. Just substitute Josie for Cass, and the Empress rules alone. He's a true believer, but his personal motivation was about mage autonomy, being an exemplar. And he's a rift mage.

 

Final fate of the crew:

 

Sera remains with Inquisitor, Red Jenny.

Josie brings Quizzy home to the family, builds her empire.

Cullen remains with Inquisition.

Leli is Divine, keeps kicking tail.

Solas, try to redeem  him.

Cass reforms the Seekers.

Vivi rebuilds a new Circle to rival the College of Enchanters.

Cole, more spirit, moves on to the next in need.

Bull and Chargers go back to mercenary work.

Thom a Grey Warden.

Varric the Viscount, Kirkwall key to the.. port, summer home, all that. lol

Dorian off to Tevinter with the ET phone home.

Hawke off to whatever, with Merrill. Wish they'd do more with former protags.



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I chose to keep the inquisition intact. I figured the risk of corruption was worth it for a stronger fight against Solas.

Honestly, I hope this does end up being a big decision for the outcome of future games. If the past few games are any indicator, it'll be mentioned maybe once and otherwise make no difference.