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[colata]

Will ME:A also not support PROPER FULL SCREEN like DA:I and Battlefront 3?

 

Frostbite engine used in DAI and new battlefront doesn't support full screen mode in windows 8/8.1, if it has gt800 series graphic card.

It has been around since DAI's launch but no one from nvidia, intel, BW cared to give out a fix up until now.

 

It's really hard to understand why only DAI and battlefront have this issue when BF3, BF4, garden warfare 1 supports full screen mode in win 8/8.1 flawlessly.

 

So, what now, you're saying that all the games from now on made on frostbite engine is not going to support full screen mode in windows 8/8.1 and consumers with the said setup is now sxxt out of luck? 

 

I am never going to consider the game that can't be run on full screen mode because it has incorrect mouse position issue and performance issues and most of all it heats up my laptop for no justifiable reasons.

[pdusen]

uh... what exactly are you referring to? I haven't noticed anything off about DA:I's full screen mode in Windows 8.1.

[RoboticWater]

This seems more like a nVidia/EA problem than an ME:A/BioWare problem, so I somehow doubt bringing it up here will get anyone anywhere. I doubt an ME:A dev (especially the kind that would come to this forum) is going to be able to fix your problem, let alone give you an answer. Rest assured that if this problem is widespread, then EA/nVidia has probably got someone working on it.

 

Having done my own snooping, it looks like nVidia were aware of this problem a while ago and were trying to fix it. All I can tell you is make sure that your are drivers up to date so that any fixes nVidia find will get applied.

 

As a general rule, any "will X bug return" question will probably be answered with a "no" or no response at all especially this early.

[colata]

What I can't understand is why only DA:I and battlefront 3 have this issue, when BF3, BF4, garden warfare 1 has no issue of running in full screen with win 8/8.1 + intel HD garaphic car + nvidia optimus + gt800""M"" series ""LAPTOP""?

 

I posted this 'cos I was very suspicious the cause of this might lie on developers' side, as BF3, BF4, GARDEN WARFARE 1 run flawlessly with the aforementioned setup of win 8/8.1 + intel HD garaphic car + nvidia optimus + gt800""M"" series ""LAPTOP"".

 

This has been around SINCE DA:I first came out about 2 YEARS ago, and still no fix.

 

Funny thing is that games with downright poor QC have this issues, too.  i.e. batman arkham knight and recent assassin's crid series.

 

There are also the whole myriads of complaints threads on EA, nvidia, intel, MS forum for about 2 years and still no fix.  It's just another way of saying "don't buy it, we spare no QC cost for the your specific setup." by the devs.

[RoboticWater]

It can all just depend on the proprietary engine features in the game. It may pop up again if ME:A borrows certain rendering algorithms etc. from DA:I or Battlefront.

 

This is the main argument against PC gaming: sometimes it just doesn't work. Unfortunately, I think nVidia is probably more focused on making sure their desktop GPUs run successfully, because that's where the dedicated GPU market generally is. I guarantee you that EA want you to have a properly playable game (it might not seem that way sometimes, but they need to run a successful business most of the time), so if there's a solution, someone will try to find it.

 

I'd ask this question closer to release once the game is in optimization phase, because right I doubt any dev really knows what the problem is (it probably would have been fixed in Battlefront had this been the case). You might just have to wait until after release to find out.

[pdusen]

This has been around SINCE DA:I first came out about 2 YEARS ago, and still no fix.
 

I'm thinking you need to check your math...

[AtreiyaN7]

I have two nVidia GTX 970m cards (mobile ones as denoted by the "m") and Windows 8.1 - DA:I runs fine on my system. The fact is that sometimes you're just SOL if you have some weird and unfortunate combination of cards. I wouldn't be surprised if this were some sort of Optimus-related issue; if you've tried updating to the latest nVidia drivers and things are still not working, there's not a whole lot you can do.

 

BTW, I've been updating my video drivers regularly, and honestly, nVidia's been doing a fairly crap job with the more recent iterations (if you ask me at least). Still, there aren't a whole lot of options other than to try updating the drivers. Oh, and make sure that you actually download the right driver for the right version of Windows. I've seen a surprising number of people who screw up and download the wrong driver for the wrong OS (I've read posts in the nVidia forums where it's clear that some people have downloaded the wrong driver version - Win 8.1 peeps who download the Win 10 drivers and vice versa).

[colata]

Some more research gave me that there are lots of people who have issues with win 8/8.1 with gtx500M to gtx700M series not allowing to run on nvidia gfx, rather run on intel HD gfx.  This has something to do with win 8 UEFI secure booting and some other win 8 OEM specific setting.

 

Also win 8.1 with a single gt800M series not allowed to run in full screen mode has something to do with intel driver resolution setting and windows 8.1 DPI setting.

 

These things honesly should be spotted in Quality control phase.  Releasing the game without even acknowledging and ushering manufacturers to come up with the working solution is pure negligence on EA's part, considering, no official or unofficial solution has been out for about a year.

 

Whether the problem is caused by which specific setting, isn't EA responsible for finding out the cause?  since they sold a product promising it would work properly?

 

Since everyone who's responsible EA, MS, intel, nvidia are so slow to solve the issue, and pretty much all the major EA's game will run on frostbite, I had to be bothered to post this here.

[FKA_Servo]

Since everyone who's responsible EA, MS, intel, nvidia are so slow to solve the issue, and pretty much all the major EA's game will run on frostbite, I had to be bothered to post this here.

This is the first I'm even hearing if this one. Are you certain it's an issue in our current reality as opposed to one where they stuck to the original 2013 release date?

Whatever the case, rest assured that you've come to the wrong place.

[wolfhowwl]

PC gaming.

 

 

Not even once.

[RoboticWater]

Given the specificity of the issue, there would need to be communication between MS, nVidia, and EA to solve it. That's not an easy thing to do. In fact, it's probably near impossible.

 

Bringing up your problems in a forum for a game that isn't even out yet isn't going to get you an answer any time soon. No BioWare dev is going to come and say "yeah, that thing that's causing the problem is (or is not) still there." For one, it's just bad marketing to bring up bugs at all, but if anyone knew what the problem was it would probably be gone.

 

Also, EA isn't really breaking a promise or if they are, it was a stupid promise to make in the first place. It's impossible to guarantee that a complex game is going to run perfectly on every single permutation of hardware and software that any given PC gamer is going to have. It's unfortunate, but unless there's a large swath of players who run an 800m series or earlier with win8.1, then EA doesn't have much of a reason invest too much time solving a such a complex and elusive problem. DA:I and Battlefront work on most PCs, and that's all EA is responsible for.

[colata]

sure, thought some mods with sense might raise this crazy issue to the devs which can't be further from the truth, anyway, this only proves there are lots of jokers on bw forum.

[RoboticWater]

sure, thought some mods with sense might raise this crazy issue to the devs which can't be further from the truth, anyway, this only proves there are lots of jokers on bw forum.

The moderators aren't very active in the forums and even if they were, I don't think they're responsible for alerting devs to technical problems. In fact, I don't even know if the mods are even directly part of BioWare. 

 

If you want more active EA support, go to the DA:I and Battlefront technical support forums or contact EA directly. Those places are probably watched closely by devs and might have someone willing and able to help you out. The ME:A forum really isn't the place for this.

[colata]

yeah, well, it's not a problem for those who are not really into the games I mentioned.
I am just curious why other unreal, crytek engine games and other frostbite games don't have this problem all around for the same setup.
Since all other frostbite games and other unreal, cryengine based games run fine in full screen with the same setup, there must be something these devs are neglecting when making the games.

Long live the frostbite and negligent devs.

[FKA_Servo]

PC gaming.



Not even once.

Not all PC gamings.

[Chealec]

PC gaming.

 

 

Not even once.

 

Could be worse - could be trying to play vs Collectors on PS3 ME3MP

[rashie]

PC gaming.

 

 

Not even once.

I don't get why people feel the need to make posts like this when a thread doesn't mention consoles even once before your entry....

[Chealec]

I don't get why people feel the need to make posts like this when a thread doesn't mention consoles even once before your entry....

 

You can't say we don't kind of ask for it ...

 

[wolfsite]

This may be a better place to ask about your issue

 

https://help.ea.com/en/

 

 

It doesn't really sound like it's on the games side specifically though since more people would have complained about it when the game was released, I never experienced the issue you are referring too myself.

[Fidite Nemini]

 

win 8/8.1 + intel HD garaphic car + nvidia optimus + gt800""M"" series ""LAPTOP"".

 

 

Can't help but think there might be a case of user error involved when I read the above quoted.

 

As others have said, this isn't the right place. Firstly, BioWare doesn't do this kind of support in the first place, secondly BioWare isn't using this forum much anyway so if you'd want them to see this, go for Reddit. Whom you need concern with this is your laptop manufacturer and making sure you run the appropriate drivers.

 

And the quoted system summary is no sufficient system summary, let alone sufficient information to try and help you with your specific problem.

 

What laptop model do you have exactly? What drivers do you run? What sort of mouse positioning issues do you get when using the full screen mode, what performance issues and are you absolutely sure your laptop isn't heating up because maybe it's not powerful enough to run the game without going all-out (and thus running hot and eventually throttling which would cause performance decreases) ?

[colata]

I got that nothing good can come out of posting this here, nor this forum isn't used for tech support purpose.

"THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY" "THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY" for those who are unaware and misunderstand the issue.

 

Here are small number of threads that makes you guess how many are affected by this issue for about a year.  All these people are affected, therefore there are quite a few people affected by this.

 

intel forum ; many complaints, asking a fix from an intel driver, a thread eventually locked without any solutions.

https://communities..../message/291754

 

geforce forum ; still no fix

https://forums.gefor...lay-fullscreen/

 

ea forum ; no fix

http://answers.ea.co...de/td-p/3989581

 

i7 4510u, gt840m, 8G, win8.1 64bit, latest nvidia driver, updated win8.1, running inquisition for hours sometimes failed my display driver, nvidia driver sometimes failed and recovered, laptop running unnecessary heat for being forced to run on borderless windows, windows 8.1 slows down for dealing with excessive heat.

my laptop can run crysis 3 with chopped off config setting at stable 55fps with no unnecessary heat issues or abnormal display, nvidia driver failure due to unjustifiable workload of running in windowed mode.

This has been completely fixed in win10 latest ver. and nobody knows what exactly cause of the issue.  MS, devs, intel, nvidia, in the order of importance in the issue, are presumed to be responsible.

 

I am not asking for a fix as there are no one who seems to be aware of this issue here, now.  again, THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY, am not asking for a fix or anything here.

[Fidite Nemini]

I don't see what your issue is then. If you don't look for advice from us users and know you can't get advise from BioWare, why the hell post about it? Nothing's going to come out of this other than publicity to people who can't help and those who could aren't here.

 

Secondly, the very first page of the nVidia forum thread you linked gives a workaround that's working as other users in that same thread have reported.

 

Thirdly, if this issue still persisted after trying the workaround, yet has been fixed with Win10 as you said, then how is that still a problem? The upgrade to Win10 is free from Win8.1. In all the time you've been doing - what, venting in a place you knew can't help you - you could've upgraded your OS and enjoy the fullscreen.

[Heimerdinger]

PC gaming.

 

 

Not even once.

Meanwhile, Star Wars Battlefront runs at a mere 720p on XboxOne and 900p ("almost" 1080p) on PS4.

[AtreiyaN7]

Since you now think it's UEFI-related, OP, then your problem isn't really on EA's or BW's end, and your odd technical diffficulties are not really fault of the game or the game engine apparently. Try the technical forums (not that you'll have any better luck there there with an OS-related/nVidia-related issue). I'd say try the nVidia forums, but even if they actually see your post, the odds are good that you won't get a direct response. People have complained about far more major isses than yours for months, and they still don't have a reliable fix for TDR issues (the last time I checked the nVidia forums, I still saw people complaining about TDRs and performance drops, etc.).

[colata]

I don't see what your issue is then. If you don't look for advice from us users and know you can't get advise from BioWare, why the hell post about it? Nothing's going to come out of this other than publicity to people who can't help and those who could aren't here.

 

> I clarified in my last post that my last post was meant only to clarify the misunderstanding, it means that I don't seek further answers from anyone in this forum including yourself.  It was meant for ending the argument.

 

Secondly, the very first page of the nVidia forum thread you linked gives a workaround that's working as other users in that same thread have reported.

Some of them works selectively in selective computer setup, still no fix for all setups affected.

 

> A general fix for those who want to stay in reliable win 8.1 haven't been found so far.

 

Thirdly, if this issue still persisted after trying the workaround, yet has been fixed with Win10 as you said, then how is that still a problem? The upgrade to Win10 is free from Win8.1. In all the time you've been doing - what, venting in a place you knew can't help you - you could've upgraded your OS and enjoy the fullscreen.

 

> Win 10 seems to have lots of obnoxious personal information breaches by MS due to its being free.  Paid ver. of win 8.1 is more reliable in that front and that's why I don't like to upgrade to FREE version right away along with the myriads of compatibility issues that might lurk in win10.

 

 

Since you now think it's UEFI-related, OP, then your problem isn't really on EA's or BW's end, and your odd technical diffficulties are not really fault of the game or the game engine apparently.

 

> UEFI related fix doesn't work for everyone, it only works for win8 with certain OEM setup.  Win8.1 is out of luck in this case.

I have BF3, played BF4, garden warfare 1, dead space 3 running full screen on my laptop win8.1, they all use frostbite engine.  Only inquisition and battlefront 3 have this issue, I was suspicious if it's possible that there are some flaws that the devs of 2 games are neglecting. 

This argument doesn't register here that in my last post I clearly stated that I want to end this meaningless post by clarifying some misunderstandings, and my last post was meant for ending the meaningless thread since I acknowledged it's meaningless and I seek no further information.