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[The_Mac23]

Alistair had been the main character of the Dragon Age series? After replaying Origins, he has by far the most interesting backstory when compared to the Warden... And is the most senior Warden after Duncan dies.

In Inquisition, you see how much time has changed him (especially if he stays a Warden). I don't know, I was just never sold on the Inquisitor, just feels like that random someone who just simply doesn't belong.

In Origins, the Alistair vs Loghain angle would have been that much more awesome if you, the player, assumed his role. In Inquisition, if you were having to play to not only stop the Breach and Corypheus, but figure out what was up with the Wardens as wel, I don't know, just think it'd have been way more fun.

What are your thoughts? Should there have been a central protagonist in the Dragon Age series like there was with Mass Effect, or even the switcher? If so, who do you think it should have been?

[robertmarilyn]

I don't feel like Alistair would still be the same person if I played as his character. I like playing a character who interacts with Alistair rather than being Alistair. I like being able to romance Alistair and being a friend to Alistair and playing off his silliness. He'd lose his silliness if I played him probably. It just wouldn't be the same Alistair at all. 

[Andraste_Reborn]

I would have hated to get stuck as a human, so even if Marric's lost bastard heir could have been a woman, I wouldn't have wanted to play as them.

[Abyss108]

But... I hate Alistair... 

[The_Mac23]

Human makes the most sense in this world, though doesn't it? Think about it. Especially in Inquisition. The presence of the elf, dwarf, or kossith made virtually no sense in my opinion. An elf Mage perhaps... But that's it.

[The_Mac23]

Ahhh Abyss, how can you hate Alistair?? Besides Garrus, he's the best bro companion out there!

[Mlady]

I spent most of DAO babysitting him. I just can't see him as the hero and he himself said he prefers to follow and not lead. He's a good bro to my lady Amell, but he lacks leadership as a Warden and proves that at the Landsmeet. He is a good King though. He and Anora did wonderful things for Fereldan until that one tiny mistake with the mages and Redcliffe.

[The_Mac23]

The follows instead of lead thing was BioWare's hope of plugging a plot hole such as him, the most senior surviving Warden, not leading the group. It's like the equivalent of Bruce Banner saying the way he controls his anger and not transforming into the Hulk is because "he's always angry." Makes no sense... If he was always angry, he'd always be the Hulk. Same as the leadership role of the Wardens... Alistair may not like leading at first (natural human response to change), but it's him or the guy who just became one. I find it hard to believe he'd just acquiesce that to the rookie Warden.

[The_Mac23]

Anariel, if you say he isn't a good leader... How can he be a good King??

[Mlady]

Anariel, if you say he isn't a good leader... How can he be a good King??

 

As a GW leader he would be alone and make foolish mistakes. He only became a good King because Anora was by his side. His personal feelings for Duncan should not have interfered at the Landsmeet, nor his refusal to see what Duncan really was, or that a GW must do everything necessary, even if it means conscripting your rival in order to save the world. He then stubbornly says he'll be King just to take down Loghain and leaves the Wardens during a huge crisis. That's not responsible.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Anariel, if you say he isn't a good leader... How can he be a good King??

 

He can be a great  King, with Anora (or my Fem!Warden) beside him. 

On his own?  Too insecure and whinging.

[Abyss108]

Ahhh Abyss, how can you hate Alistair?? Besides Garrus, he's the best bro companion out there!

 

He's just too... Fluffy for me.

 

I don't think he's badly written or anything, just not the type of character I like!

 

Garris was awesome though!

[roselavellan]

If there is ever to be a central protagonist for DA, one should be able to choose its gender, and it should not be a person with a specific identity.

[GoldenGail3]

He can be a great  King, with Anora (or my Fem!Warden) beside him. 
On his own?  Too insecure and whinging.

He can be a king on his own and just do fine! I can't believe people say that Alistair is a bad king when In DAI he goes and kicks Fiona out of Redcliffe.

[The_Prophet_of_Donk]

He can be a king on his own and just do fine! I can't believe people say that Alistair is a bad king when In DAI he goes and kicks Fiona out of Redcliffe.

I like drunken outcast Alistair the best.....

just like he is in origins....useless

I actually like him as a king tbh.... He gets to Redcliffe and is like, "WTF?!?!"

[nightscrawl]

I wouldn't be playing these games if that were the case. Nothing against Alistair, but I want to play my own character.

[The_Mac23]

Loghain was trash. I understood the Ostagar retreat, but his actions after the fact were awful. Put yourself in Alistair's shoes. The man left the entirety of your brothers to die and blamed YOU for their deaths. He hunted YOU down and made the country believe YOU were the enemy. He ordered the torture of any who thought differently. Would you have embraced him as a brother? If you say yes, you're either Jesus Christ or a liar.

[Mlady]

I would have anyone join the cause to save the world instead of let my own personal feelings leave us low on allies to kill the Archdemon. That's what a GW is and what they do. They take anyone as a GW and they do anything necessary, even bad things to stop the Archdemon. There is no time for morals, only action. GW are grey. They are not knights in shinning armor nor are they villains, but they will do things that are so terrible it can cause things like Sophia's last stand and exile of the Wardens. Most GW are criminals and murders too. Even Duncan.

 

Having us arrest Loghain and deal with him later might have been a better option too then just bedheading him at the Landsmeet. It felt so distasteful for Alistair to do that, then claim the throne. In my eyes he's better than that.

[Swordfishtrombone]

I think it would be problematic with any RPG to just take on the role of an already established NPC character, as the new protagonist for a follow up game. 

 

It would constrain you to a specific personality, specific motivation, and a specific approach, rather than having a character of your own making; which is a big part of role playing, the thing that RPGs are fundamentally about. 

 

Further, of course, you would be constrained in how your character looked - it's doubtful that Alistair would have undergone plastic surgery, and likewise you'd be restricted in race and gender. 

 

Sure, you could have a game where Alistair was the main protagonist you played as, but it just wouldn't be the same - it wouldn't allow nearly as much freedom as creating a new character does, and I doubt the replay value of that game would be great either. 

 

I do think that the other way around works better - having the PC from a previous game act as an NPC in the next game in the series. In fact, that's kinda what I hope will happen with DA4 - perhaps you could play as an upcoming new hero, perhaps a leader of a company, under the inquisition, or whatever succeeds it, with the Inquisitor being an NPC (importable, of course) leading the effort. 

[Nefla]

If DA:O had been a Human only, male only, set protagonist I never would have played it or become a fan of BioWare.

[Ryzaki]

If DA:O had been a Human only, male only, set protagonist I never would have played it or become a fan of BioWare.

 

I wouldn't have touched the game with a 20 foot pole.

 

DAO is actually the one BW game where my female playthroughs MASSIVELY outnumber my male ones. Like 9:1 massively.

[Nefla]

I wouldn't have touched the game with a 20 foot pole.

 

DAO is actually the one BW game where my female playthroughs MASSIVELY outnumber my male ones. Like 9:1 massively.

I think I played more female wardens than male as well. I definitely played more elves and dwarves than humans. I played the game 3-4 times as human and like 25 times as elves(mostly) and dwarves.

[Swordfishtrombone]

If DA:O had been a Human only, male only, set protagonist I never would have played it or become a fan of BioWare.

 

The game surely would have been much poorer for it. Though I became a fan of Bioware much earlier - it was Baldur's Gate 2 that made me a fan.

[Ryzaki]

I think I played more female wardens than male as well. I definitely played more elves and dwarves than humans. I played the game 3-4 times as human and like 25 times as elves(mostly) and dwarves.

 

Human female noble was my game. So gooood. Especially with that 2hder sword and shoving it in Howe's gut. Yeah playing the man. Take that *****.

[The_Mac23]

You act as though your race actually mattered. It didn't in the end, minus a few sentences here or there. The dwarf noble was the biggest letdown in my opinion. The fact you couldn't challenge Behlen in the end was foolish.