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[FKA_Servo]

And why are my "misconceptions" so harmful?

Possibly you're just unable to properly identify jokes.

Dwarves are awesome, in any case.

[The_Mac23]

Lol just making sure you were joking was all. Would hate to offend the stone dwellers in the world

[Vanalia]

I think Thorin could lead also humans, etc. He has a lot of charisma. So why not a charismatic dwarf warrior as a leader?

 

And Alistair is not much more experienced than the warden at the beginning of the story.

[sjsharp2011]

I think Thorin could lead also humans, etc. He has a lot of charisma. So why not a charismatic dwarf warrior as a leader?

 

And Alistair is not much more experienced than the warden at the beginning of the story.

True as I think it's said somewhere that Alistair only joined about a year before the HOF does

[Ash Wind]

Alistair.... main character.... LOL, seriously... no. Idle Dwarf would be a better lead.

 

Didn't we get an insight into what the world would be like with Alistair being the leader in Darkspawn Chronicles???????

 

#Fail; #Loser; #Death; #No

 

Just, no.

[Xetykins]

Alistair.... main character.... LOL, seriously... no. Idle Dwarf would be a better lead.
 
Didn't we get an insight into what the world would be like with Alistair being the leader in Darkspawn Chronicles???????
 
#Fail; #Loser; #Death; #No
 
Just, no.

Except that the dlc is basically AU. According do David Gaider, Wade or Herren were not demons to start with.

[sylvanaerie]

Alistair.... main character.... LOL, seriously... no. Idle Dwarf would be a better lead.

 

Didn't we get an insight into what the world would be like with Alistair being the leader in Darkspawn Chronicles???????

 

#Fail; #Loser; #Death; #No

 

Just, no.

 

DSC was garbage, you can't hold that up as the standard to anything.  It had no connection to the warden's story at all and was just one giant combat.  The only DLC from Origins I didn't waste 5 bucks on.  Of course Alistair had to fail because the player was a darkspawn in that one.  Hardly do to have him win against the player now would it?  Could you imagine the backlash Bioware would have gotten if the DLC was 'unwinnable'?!?

 

Would have made the ME3 fiasco seem tame in comparison.

 

If forced to play as Alistair, I still might have gotten Origins, but I much prefer the game I got where I could pick and choose and create a PC to interact with the world around me in the game. 

 

As it is, Alistair is so tied into the plot, he can only be killed by plot device/player agency at the proper moment.

[Aren]

The darkspawn agree!

 

Archdemon approves +100

[Aren]

Except that the dlc is basically AU. According do David Gaider, Wade or Herren were not demons to start with.

How did you know? To me Herren can be the formless one,while Wade Dumat.

The world is full of surprises,or maybe he just made a deal with a demon

[Xetykins]

How did you know? To me Herren can be the formless one,while Wade Dumat.
The world is full of surprises,or maybe he just made a deal with a demon

http://forum.bioware...-dao/?bioware=1

show bioware post only if you don't want to go through all the drivel.

[Aren]

http://forum.bioware...-dao/?bioware=1

show bioware post only if you don't want to go through all the drivel.

 So a desire demon came along to save their life in exchange of something,seem fair Wade talent cannot end.

So Among all the Dlc Wade and Harren are one of the few characters that don't die ever.

[Xetykins]

So a desire demon came along to save their life in exchange of something,seem fair Wade talent cannot end.
So Among all the Dlc Wade and Harren are one of the few characters that don't die ever.

WoG bless those two. They're hilarious.

[Aren]

 As a male Cousland, you are simply a "pup" who has never seen battle. I'm supposed to believe you kill an Archdemon within a year?? And stop Loghain? Please...

The only origin that made any sense to me was the dwarf noble. Lord Aeducan was awesome. But a dwarf leading a group is just... I don't know, odd? Just wish they had done more with him vs Behlen. Make it more personal.

For the Human noble  i believe that you are very much mistaken only Bryce call you pup a name that i hated truly, my Warden didn't regret his death,in his moment of death i asked to him if Highever could have been mine just in case....

and he said F-F-ferguss..... mm the anger.

(yes i'm a monster  )

The noble fought at many tournaments and s/he supposedly already met Loghain,he even recognize you at Ostagar.

Duncan would have not come to look for a pup as his first choice,he was in search of a beast.

 

 

A dwarf leading a group is just awesome and original! The Aeducan Family is one of the most powerful and ancient in the world and Bhelen is my favourite DA

character(even when i play as an Aeducan).

whenever i think about the Aeducan this comes to mind

Spoiler

[GoldenGail3]

For the Human noble  i believe that you are very much mistaken only Bryce call you pup a name that i hated truly, my Warden didn't regret his death,in his moment of death i asked to him if Highever could have been mine just in case....
and he said F-F-ferguss..... mm the anger.
(yes i'm a monster  )
The noble fought at many tournaments and s/he supposedly already met Loghain,he even recognize you at Ostagar.
Duncan would have not come to look for a pup as his first choice,he was in search of a beast.
 
 
A dwarf leading a group is just awesome and original! The Aeducan Family is one of the most powerful and ancient in the world and Bhelen is my favourite DA
character(even when i play as an Aeducan).
whenever i think about the Aeducan this comes to mind

Spoiler

https://www.youtube....h?v=BEm0AjTbsac

For the Human noble  i believe that you are very much mistaken only Bryce call you pup a name that i hated truly, my Warden didn't regret his death,in his moment of death i asked to him if Highever could have been mine just in case....
and he said F-F-ferguss..... mm the anger.
(yes i'm a monster  )
The noble fought at many tournaments and s/he supposedly already met Loghain,he even recognize you at Ostagar.
Duncan would have not come to look for a pup as his first choice,he was in search of a beast.
 
 
A dwarf leading a group is just awesome and original! The Aeducan Family is one of the most powerful and ancient in the world and Bhelen is my favourite DA
character(even when i play as an Aeducan).
whenever i think about the Aeducan this comes to mind

Spoiler

https://www.youtube....h?v=BEm0AjTbsac

Is shocked by the insults to the Couslands. How dare you insult the Couslands! They're too awesome to be insulted!

[The_Mac23]

I liked Fergus a lot. I guess I just like being called something other than "Warden" because there were a lot of other Grey Wardens. Makes you feel like you don't truly belong. It's one of many reasons I wasn't adamantly opposed to Hawke or Shepard.

Were they to have gone that direction, Alistair to me would have made the most sense. You're addressed by your first name and feel like you're already a cemented part of the universe. The first Mass Effect changed my views to this; before I played it, I loved the Warden way of playing games. But ME revolutionized it for me.

[The_Mac23]

A party comprised of Alistair, Morrigan, Oghren, and Leliana for example sounds much better than The Warden, Oghren, Morrigan, and Leliana. See what I'm trying to say?

[Xetykins]

Yeah but s/he is not just a warden but THE Warden. There's a distinction in that Subtle but but in a big way.

[The_Mac23]

Still think the hero of Ferelden should have a set in stone first name.

[FKA_Servo]

A party comprised of Alistair, Morrigan, Oghren, and Leliana for example sounds much better than The Warden, Oghren, Morrigan, and Leliana. See what I'm trying to say?

As others have observed, Alistair wouldn't want anything to do with leading. In fact, he makes it quite clear that he wants nothing to do with it if you ask him. Besides, all of my wardens had names. Unless you named your PC "The Warden," for some reason. Which is legit, if that's what you want to do. When I play Zelda games, I rename Link to "Derp."

Still think the hero of Ferelden should have a set in stone first name.

I don't. What if it's a name I don't like? What if I still want to choose my gender? Do they have one lame unisex name? Multiple recorded names for each gender?

What you're proposing is something that Origins is not. Which is fine, but there are plenty of games that do what you seem to want.

Frankly, the breadth of character options offered by Origins, and the ability to play a very unlikely or reluctant hero, is one of its greatest strengths.

[Illegitimus]

Boom. Discuss and let the insults toward me come!

 

I don't want to play Alistair.  

[Jeffonl1]

 ​I like him and all, but Alistair is an excellent FOLLOWER....
Why would I want to play that?

Witcher is great - I have really enjoyed the series (sex and all ) : but I believe you pay a metaphysical price for a such a well developed character - a bit harder to head cannon. Geralts relationships are, by and large, defined for you.

[sylvanaerie]

Also, I love Leliana, and I love Morrigan.  Both are fantastic characters I really enjoyed having in my groups.  Alistair has a different view of Morrigan, and as a player I probably would because I'd be playing him.

 

Which would have left Leliana as the only romance option for me as a player.  Not a huge enough reason to dislike the idea of playing as him, but enough that it would have killed the desire to play through more than a handful of times.

 

Romance aside, the different origins help with variety.  Cousland is wonderfully integrated into the storyline, the elf player less so, but as a mage, you get all kinds of extra dialogue if you play a Surana.

 

Also, I really enjoy playing mages in Origins.  I like the versatility the class provides.  Being a sword and board warrior (even rebuilding Alistair and respeccing him) every. single. game.

 

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[Ash Wind]

Except that the dlc is basically AU. According do David Gaider, Wade or Herren were not demons to start with.

Of course it was AU, because the default DAO world state has the HoF surviving the joining... it doesn't change the (if you can call it as such) fact, that in this AU where the Warden dies, Alistair=Fails.

[sylvanaerie]

Of course it was AU, because the default DAO world state has the HoF surviving the joining... it doesn't change the (if you can call it as such) fact, that in this AU where the Warden dies, Alistair=Fails.

 

More than AU, it's a video game where the player takes on the role of a darkspawn and instead of an ally, Alistair is the 'antagonist'.  I repeat what I posted earlier: imagine the uproar that creating an "unwinnable" game would have caused in the fanbase.

 

DSC was garbage, you can't hold that up to any standard of what would have happened.  Since Alistair would be the protagonist, not some boss NPC you're supposed to kill, if he (the player) were the main character, the player would have to have a viable chance to beat the game.

[Vanalia]

DSC was not really funny gameplay-wise because it was so repetitive, but it was interesting to play as the enemy