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thetinyevil

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Why was their no mage adviser? We have Leliana a Chantry sister and right hand of the divine. Cullen who is a former Knight-Commander, Josephine who is pretty neutral. And in the beginning Cassandra could be kinda be considered an adviser is a Seeker.

 

Leliana is pro-change and the only one of the advisers that could be called pro-mage, while Cullen and Cassandra even though they "changed" still doesn't trust mages and they both call you an idiot if you ally with the mages and Josephine like I already said is pretty much neutral but still leans more toward the Chantry and templars because they have power. 

 

So why didn't we get a mage adviser who didn't trust templars and the Chantry and would all but calls you an idiot for allying with the templars.


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Why was their no mage adviser?

Because you can't trust a mage.


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So why didn't we get a mage adviser who didn't trust templars and the Chantry and would all but calls you an idiot for allying with the templars.


Because Anders could be dead.

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Because you can't trust a mage.

You can't trust templars either or Chantry priests.



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Why would you have a mage adviser in a time where the mages and templars were pretty much at war? Things were not settled, and if you ended up siding with the templars, it seems highly unlikely that you would have much interaction with any mages of any kind beyond Dorian, Solas, and Vivienne (if you recruited them). Also, Morrigan actually does pop in far later and hangs out with you all in Skyhold - feel free to call her a quasi-adviser or whatever.



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Why would you have a mage adviser in a time where the mages and templars were pretty much at war? Things were not settled, and if you ended up siding with the templars, it seems highly unlikely that you would have much interaction with any mages of any kind beyond Dorian, Solas, and Vivienne (if you recruited them). Also, Morrigan actually does pop in far later and hangs out with you all in Skyhold - feel free to call her a quasi-adviser or whatever.

With that logic then why did we need a templar and seeker adviser. 



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Solas is exactly that. Then there's Morrigan when she comes aboard. 


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With that logic then why did we need a templar and seeker adviser. 

 

Cullen resigned from the Templars but offers up a templar's perspective. Cassandra is the Right Hand of the Divine, and that's why she's there with Leliana (the Left Hand of the Divine)  as one of the two people closest to Divine Justinia who have some authority/power to carry out Justinia's will to form the Inquisition and to serve in advisory roles.

 

Seriously, OP, I think the person who has issues with logic is you, not me - particularly since I am clearly the one here who is able to express her thoughts in a clear and coherent manner.

 

EDIT: I already mentioned your mage companions who, to a degree, fulfill an advisory role on magical matters - and as others in here have already pointed out, Solas is basically the Inquisitor's point man on such matters.


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The running of a physical army, diplomatic talents and spymastery has nothing to do with magical talents. Or their "class."

 

You do have companions to assist you with magical matters, but that has nothing to do with running an organization. 

 

You're thinking about it the wrong way.



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It's probably because aside from Vivienne, and Fiona there was no other mage around who had the knowledge, skill ,and standing necessary to have earned the position. 



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Before we learned her backstory and name, I had been theorizing Josephine would be a mage and a member of the Lucrosian fraternity, which focuses on the accumulation of wealth and political influence.

 

I'm still not convinced that wouldn't have been the better option.


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Because I'm the only Mage adviser the Inquisition will ever need.

More seriously though I guess you could call Solas a sort of Fade adviser.
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Cullen resigned from the Templars but offers up a templar's perspective. Cassandra is the Right Hand of the Divine, and that's why she's there with Leliana (the Left Hand of the Divine)  as one of the two people closest to Divine Justinia who have some authority/power to carry out Justinia's will to form the Inquisition and to serve in advisory roles.

 

Seriously, OP, I think the person who has issues with logic is you, not me - particularly since I am clearly the one here who is able to express her thoughts in a clear and coherent manner.

So all we need was the templar and chantry perspective but not a mages?



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Because I'm the only Mage adviser the Inquisition will ever need.

More seriously though I guess you could call Solas a sort of Fade adviser.

Yeah Solas, i forgot about him.



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Why was their no mage adviser? We have Leliana a Chantry sister and right hand of the divine. Cullen who is a former Knight-Commander, Josephine who is pretty neutral. And in the beginning Cassandra could be kinda be considered an adviser is a Seeker.

 

Leliana is pro-change and the only one of the advisers that could be called pro-mage, while Cullen and Cassandra even though they "changed" still doesn't trust mages and they both call you an idiot if you ally with the mages and Josephine like I already said is pretty much neutral but still leans more toward the Chantry and templars because they have power. 

 

So why didn't we get a mage adviser who didn't trust templars and the Chantry and would all but calls you an idiot for allying with the templars.

 

The Chantry doesn't have mages. They all rebelled. It's the same reason why you don't have a templar adviser. Cullen happens to be a former templar, but he's in charge of conventional military. 


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Solas wasn't really a adviser. Especially since we learn that Cassandra threatened to kill him if he didn't save your character. She wouldn't have threatened anyone else like that.



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While it's true that Solas and Morrigan fill the role - to a point - I think it would have been interesting if the game was made from the ground up with a mage as one of the three advisors. Oh well, too late now.



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Because Wynne died in a book

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So all we need was the templar and chantry perspective but not a mages?

Gee, see my edit to my post in which I clarified after belatedly realizing that the odds were very high that I would really need to repeat my initial point about you already having individuals who basically advise you on magical matters. Now then, I'm quite thoroughly done explaining things to you - everyone else is welcome to try, but I'm already in the middle of dealing with an obtuse author whose edits I must reject.

 

I will say that I'm certainly hoping that the author magically learns to type correctly within the next 24 hours because I will scream if she doesn't clean up her work - it's that bad. Hmm, maybe I should call in my homie, Dorian, to cast a spell on her to help with her fail typing.

 

EDIT: And one final thing - it doesn't matter that someone like Solas doesn't have an official title because he doesn't need an official title to provide advice (and neither do Dorian or Vivienne or Morrigan). Please try not to be so obtuse about things.



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thetinyevil

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I meant a mage who wasn't a complete suck up like Wynne and Vivienne.



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Why was their no mage adviser?

 

Because there's no need for one

 

You have a military Adviser, a political adviser, and a spymaster in secrets


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You can't trust templars either or Chantry priests.

Well at least they ain't mad terrorists that blow up local churches or elven supremacist that wants destroy world and kill everyone.

 

On topic , there is no need for mage adviser in Inquistion as advisor oversee 1 of 3 branches of the inquistion that are military , diplomacy and espionage and i don't see mage in those roles as very few mages have military experience and mage in 2 other fields would be like unicorn.



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Solas wasn't really a adviser. Especially since we learn that Cassandra threatened to kill him if he didn't save your character. She wouldn't have threatened anyone else like that.


Solas advised my characters a lot on the nature of the Fade itself and the primary task of our organization centered around the Rifts. I don't see the need with the Inquisition to have a Mage adviser considering what we deal with most were not different classifications of magic but solely Fade related incidents. And the one time we did differ from Fade problems was the Well of Sorrows but we had Morrigan for that.

Cassandra threatens everyone, its like a rite of passage.
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Because there's no need for one

 

You have a military Adviser, a political adviser, and a spymaster in secrets

That's not the best reason. For one, those 3 positions needn't be the only positions. Second, there is no reason why a mage couldn't be in one of those positions anyway. Mage Spymaster? Why not?



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I meant a mage who wasn't a complete suck up like Wynne and Vivienne.


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