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#26
thetinyevil

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help me jesus is this for real

Yes. Both are suck up. One is a brainwashed old woman while the other is a power hungry ****** who got out of the circle on her back.



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That's not the best reason. For one, those 3 positions needn't be the only positions. Second, there is no reason why a mage couldn't be in one of those positions anyway. Mage Spymaster? Why not?

 

Those were the only positions because your running a Paramilitary organization with those being the ones matter the most and a mage isn't necessary, I'd rather they don't put one in there just for "reasons"



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help me jesus is this for real

 

Sadly yes



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BansheeOwnage

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Those were the only positions because your running a Paramilitary organization with those being the ones matter the most and a mage isn't necessary, I'd rather they don't put one in there just for "reasons"

Maybe for any given paramilitary organization, but not one specifically reformed to fight magical things. Also I would have been interested to see a mage advisor for balance reasons. They do stuff like that all the time in stories, and it's not a bad thing.



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I remember people thought that Josephine would be the mage of the 3  advisers since Leliana is a Rogue, Cullen is a warrior and all you'll need is a mage to mage  a complete set.

 

Otherwise you have:

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...which are the "closest" you can get



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A mage adviser could have given them perspective on rebel mages they way the Cullen gave perspective on the rouge templars.



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Yes. Both are suck up. One is a brainwashed old woman while the other is a power hungry ****** who got out of the circle on her back.


No.

Sadly yes


More no. :(

 

A mage adviser could have given them perspective on rebel mages they way the Cullen gave perspective on the rouge templars.


Your Inner Circle has a mage from a magocracy and an ancient elven god-king who turns purple when you say anything that rhymes with Shemplar. Coupled with a super duper pro-mage Inquisitor, the very liberal Leliana, and possibly Fiona... what more do you want?
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Your Inner Circle has a mage from a magocracy and an ancient elven god-king who turns purple when you say anything that rhymes with Shemplar. Coupled with a super duper pro-mage Inquisitor, the very liberal Leliana, and possibly Fiona... what more do you want?

 

Are you sure you want the answer to that?

 

 

Maybe for any given paramilitary organization, but not one specifically reformed to fight magical things. Also I would have been interested to see a mage advisor for balance reasons. They do stuff like that all the time in stories, and it's not a bad thing.

 

There's nothing to balance though



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No.


More no. :(

 
Your Inner Circle has a mage from a magocracy and an ancient elven god-king who turns purple when you say anything that rhymes with Shemplar. Coupled with a super duper pro-mage Inquisitor, the very liberal Leliana, and possibly Fiona... what more do you want?

Yes. Yes.

 

The mage from the magocracy would gladly see all mages but the self hating loyalist mages, like herself, made tranquil or executed. So I don't really count her since she doesn't care about mages she only cares about keeping her power. She is a power hungry social climber who would sell her own children for power.



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help me jesus is this for real


SMH

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The mage from the magocracy would gladly see all mages but the self hating loyalist mages, like herself, made tranquil or executed. So I don't really count her since she doesn't care about mages she only cares about keeping her power. She is a power hungry social climber who would sell her own children for power.


I'm talking about Dorian.

SMH


Eh?

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Maybe for any given paramilitary organization, but not one specifically reformed to fight magical things. Also I would have been interested to see a mage advisor for balance reasons. They do stuff like that all the time in stories, and it's not a bad thing.


I think the problem with that is mostly the war table missions. Who exactly would a Mage have leadership over? And would it make the Templars Vs Mage support choice non existent since technically we would have mages aligned with us already?

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I'm talking about Dorian.


Eh?

Oh. But Dorian really has no idea about the situation in the South, you know other then horror stories about circle prisons and templars who are more then decorations.



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Eh?


*Shaking my head

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*Shaking my head


I know, but I couldn't tell what for.

Unless it was namedropping Jesus?

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I know, but I couldn't tell what for.
Unless it was namedropping Jesus?


Oh naw, wasn't smh at the reply, just the overall situation of the question that was asked lol.
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I got plenty of insight from my companion mages.

 

Vivienne as a Circle mage

Dorian as a Tevinter Circle Mage

Solas as whatever the hell he thinks he is

(Morrigan as an Apostate Witch of the Wilds)

 

all very different with different points of views. 

 

I never felt the need for an extra mage advisor in my advisor ranks but that's just me.


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There's nothing to balance though

Sure there is. Cullen gives you perspective on the Templar Order. A mage would do the same.

 

I think the problem with that is mostly the war table missions. Who exactly would a Mage have leadership over? And would it make the Templars Vs Mage support choice non existent since technically we would have mages aligned with us already?

They don't have to have leadership at all. Josephine doesn't have a lot of leadership over other people, for instance. No, it wouldn't make that choice any more non-existent than it already is, since it wouldn't change anything. The Inquisition has Templars and mages under its command since before the beginning of the game, as well as after the recruiting missions.



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As if a mage would have any helpful advice.

"We need to help refugees in the south."

"I propose we get possessed by demons."

"You ALWAYS propose we get possessed by demons. How would that even help the refugees?"

"We could blow up a Chantry."

"Again, not helping."

"Use blood magic to create a giant monster from the refugees' corpses?"

"Listen to me: we want to KEEP the refugees ALIVE."

"...."

"...."

"Sell the refugees to Tevinter slavers?"

"Get out."
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They don't have to have leadership at all. Josephine doesn't have a lot of leadership over other people, for instance. No, it wouldn't make that choice any more non-existent than it already is, since it wouldn't change anything. The Inquisition has Templars and mages under its command since before the beginning of the game, as well as after the recruiting missions.


Josie has ties and connections between Nobles and their subjects/lands. The Inquisition does have Templars and Mages but I believe early on before you choose a side they weren't vast enough a force or either side to really matter. The majority were simple soldiers/Rogues.

I'm not saying that there couldn't have been a Mage adviser just that really when it comes to the outcome of the war table missions a lot of the mundanes may have felt very uncomfortable with the war going on. Maybe even to the point of refusing the aid of the Inquisiton. The populace trusts Templars a great deal more than mages regardless.

Plus I would have felt like a Mage adviser should just deal with magical issues and we didn't focus on any other than the Breach Rifts which we had a solution for already.
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#46
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And would you have a Circle Mage advisor or an Apostate advisor or would you need both?

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And would you have a Circle Mage advisor or an Apostate advisor or would you need both?

Well all mages at that point are apostates. 



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Well all mages at that point are apostates.


But some want the Circle back and some don't which means a different approach to a lot of important things.

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True. Though with Vivienne in the inner Circle we already have the mage who wants the circles back, so a mage adviser who doesn't want the circle back or at least wants major reforms.



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This is why my Inquisitor was a mage. To ensure equal representation in the organization.