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#1
TheButterflyEffect

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So Tali awkwardly dodges a female Shepard's attempts at romance because her voice actor is a homophobe.

 

I'm sorry, but that's really disgusting that you permitted that incredible nonsense. If it had been my project I'd have cut that woman a cheque and fired her immediately. This is the 21st century and to me, that kind of prejudice and discrimination is vile and completely unacceptable.

 

I sincerely hope this time around, you won't rewrite anything to accommodate someone's homophobia, because then you're just telling us all that such intolerance is acceptable.



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So Tali awkwardly dodges a female Shepard's attempts at romance because her voice actor is a homophobe.

 

 

Wait...what?

 

Some elaboration is needed.


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Don't you love random posts that just exist to ****** and whine and start flame wars? No? Guess it's just me then.
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Ashii6

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Uh... what? Do you have some facts to back it up or was it just a wild guess?

I'm really curious.



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*insert this is bait gif*


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I'm awkwardly dodging this thread entirely because I'm a plonkerophobe...


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WildOrchid

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I remember hearing that rumor, but never found the source of it.... if anyone knows, i'd like to see it.



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CrimsonN7

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I remember hearing that rumor, but never found the source of it.... if anyone knows, i'd like to see it.


I thought it was Ashley's VA. Heard that rumour too.

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Ashii6

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I thought it was Ashley's VA. Heard that rumour too.

And I heard it was Jack's VA, too. But you know, rumors. Honestly.

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Han Shot First

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In either case, I think we need some link to a reputable source before we start bashing VAs or game developers.

 

Internet rumors aren't always true.


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Yawn !!  Sleepy now.



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Natureguy85

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OP, why are you so intolerant?



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WildOrchid

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I looked for it and there's nothing on the interwebz that say she's a homophobe. I only saw 1-2 comments from people pulling shite out of their arse without source.


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Most earth clan are still crawling out of their Bronze Age. I wouldn't expect any better.
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PlatonicWaffles

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Yeah I remember hearing this too. Not quite the homophobe part but that she was uncomfortable with a FemShep/ Tali romance. I dunno.



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I've heard that the voice actress was uncomfortable lending her voice to a femshep/Tali romance, but I've never heard that she was a homophobe, and I've never seen any reputable source supporting even the first part.

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In either case, I think we need some link to a reputable source before we start bashing VAs or game developers.

 

Internet rumors aren't always true.

Wait, their not? Sonuvabitch.


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Here is why according to Casey Hudson and Ray Muzyka: http://www.kotaku.co...-mass-effect-2/

 

Me: Tali is my favourite character. But my Shepard is female and totally in love with her. Why can’t my character engage in a romance with her? Why not have the option to have homosexual relations?
 
Casey Hudson: Everything new that we add still requires extra content. Some people might argue in a case like that you could just have the same kinds of scenes that just work with different characters. But we wouldn’t really want to have it that way. You’d want to take a proper approach to designing those scenes, otherwise you’d see the same scene. So we kind of pulled back and looked at where we had to draw the line in terms of how much content we make. How much should we support? We actually added a lot more romance options because we have new characters and multiple options already in the romances. So we kind of pulled back and said, “Well, the love interest is part of the story and it helps you care about the characters in a different way.” We still view it as … if you’re picturing a PG-13 action movie. That’s how we’re trying to design it. So that’s why the love interest is relatively light … That’s another thing we did better than we did before. We really lock you into character. Tali is really interesting because the whole idea of her character and what she’s concerned about and her experience and age – we kind of factor all those things, and we designed the love interests really around the particular characters because they’re all quite different. So her (love scene) is a little more innocent and fun.
 
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Me: (Same question.)
 
Ray Muzyka: In all of BioWare’s games to-date, we’ve enabled a lot of choice. So you look at games going back to Baldur’s Gate, Baldur’s Gate 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age, of course … In future games we are going to enable more choice as well. That choice can come as a lot of things, it includes relationships, it includes having an impact on world events, among other things. It’s an important part of our games.
 
Sometimes, in some of our games, we are going to have a defined character with a more defined view. Almost like a third-person narrative – where Mass Effect is more in that vein, Dragon Age isn’t in that vein; you could see the differences between the two. It’s just part of the design and the choices made for each game. It doesn’t mean that we’ve in anyway changed our philosophy toward enabling choice. We love giving players choice, and we are going to continue to enable that for future games. That’s a commitment for some of our franchises. For some other franchises we’ve had more defined characters and sort of approaches to things, and they’ve had a more defined personality and a more defined approach to the way they’ve proceed through the game and the world.
 
Some game franchises are going to be slightly different but that’s part of our effort to diversify the portfolio and enable some franchises to have some more choice and some of them are around defining a more specific character, sort of a first-person versus third-person kind of narrative, but we know how important it is to our players to have that choice and we are going to continue to support that. We believe in diversity and we believe in enabling choices for our fans, it’s important to us.

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Here is why according to Casey Hudson and Ray Muzyka: http://www.kotaku.co...-mass-effect-2/

 

Me: Tali is my favourite character. But my Shepard is female and totally in love with her. Why can’t my character engage in a romance with her? Why not have the option to have homosexual relations?
 
Casey Hudson: Everything new that we add still requires extra content. Some people might argue in a case like that you could just have the same kinds of scenes that just work with different characters. But we wouldn’t really want to have it that way. You’d want to take a proper approach to designing those scenes, otherwise you’d see the same scene. So we kind of pulled back and looked at where we had to draw the line in terms of how much content we make. How much should we support? We actually added a lot more romance options because we have new characters and multiple options already in the romances. So we kind of pulled back and said, “Well, the love interest is part of the story and it helps you care about the characters in a different way.” We still view it as … if you’re picturing a PG-13 action movie. That’s how we’re trying to design it. So that’s why the love interest is relatively light … That’s another thing we did better than we did before. We really lock you into character. Tali is really interesting because the whole idea of her character and what she’s concerned about and her experience and age – we kind of factor all those things, and we designed the love interests really around the particular characters because they’re all quite different. So her (love scene) is a little more innocent and fun.

Well, that's Dodging the Question 101.


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#20
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5/10 for clickbait.

 

0/10 for substance, though. Not original. No pseudo-scientific graphs or "evidence".

 

There's also this little gem from the OP:

 

http://forum.bioware...ir-still-sucks/

 

On the troll spectrum you are below a 6/10 which is classified as "average".

 

Conclusion: you need to brush up on them skillz.


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The co-writer/plotter of EA Comics/IDW Dragon Age comics was Orson Scott Card and since he's a big time homophobe and just all scumball (and those comics were crap and are on my personal worst comics ever made and that was my opinion before I learned anything about Card) I just thought I share that bit of useless trivia with everyone.  



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I think there definitely should be source.



#23
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Homophobia definition =  dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people

 

If this story even is true (most likely isn't and just hate bait) you'd have to provide some kind of reference to at least back it up. 

 

The other thing is this....what if the person that played Tali didn't want to play a homosexual part? What is wrong with that? Do you realize that by even writing what you wrote you are in turn throwing hate back in reverse to something as common as heterosexuality? 

 

Which in turn would make you a Heterophobe...? 

 

Also to have a belief system that doesn't include homosexuality doesn't equal = intolerant. I know many straight people who don't agree with homosexuality and many who do who are if anything extremely tolerant, loving, and caring of all types of people.

 

Love wins both ways. Love those who choose ALL kinds of lifestyles. This doesn't seem to be your goal though. I say...take your hate with you somewhere else please. The hate game is not fun for everyone and in the end does nothing but divide us even further. 


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#24
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You humans are all racist.


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A charitable reading of this is that it's the OP's way of saying that we need some more information on MEA.


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