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[Deebo305]

So because she may not be comfortable with homosexuality shes suddenly a terrible person?

[MaxQuartiroli]

I remember that there were also rumors about Male Shepard VA here on this boards..and people who used to blame him about the lack of gay romances for male Shepards claiming that it was him that didn't want to do them. And then we had gay Shepard in ME3, therefore unless there is some evidence I won't give such rumors too much credit .

 

Moreover, even if you, as a VA, would not be comfortable about a S/S romance I don't really think that you could really refuse, especially when all that the company who hired you is asking you to do is just to record a couple of dialogue lines.

 

I believe that the only reason for Tali being straight was just because the writers decided that she was straight.

[SardaukarElite]

A charitable reading of this is that it's the OP's way of saying that we need some more information on MEA.

 

It is starting to feel like  a Spectre plot to post troll threads until BioWare caves in and releases a new trailer.

[Donk]

It is starting to feel like  a Spectre plot to post troll threads until BioWare caves in and releases a new trailer.

 

Which will result in even more stupid threads. In fact.. even months after release it won't end. The DA:I forums are proof of that.

[9TailsFox]

Well, that's Dodging the Question 101.

It would be much simple to answer Tali character romantically don't like girls. Or better if you ask stupid questions give stupid answers.

-Why female can't romance Tali.

-Because she is engineer.

[ArabianIGoggles]

I don't believe it.  VAs don't have that much pull or creative influence.  Shenanigans. 

[Deebo305]

Moreover, even IF you, as a VA would not be comfortable about a S/S romance I don't really think that you could really refuse, especially when all that the company who hired you is asking is just to record a couple of dialogue lines.

I believe that the only reason for Tali being straight was just because the writers decided that she was straight.

Thats not actually true. VAs are still actors and thus have contracts they must read through and sign for their jobs, naturally if the VA see something they're not comfortable with performing but the company still want them then they would naturally change it to accommodate and get the purest performance out of said actor

Considering it something as small as romamce lines I don't see the problem. Liz Sroka is a human being with her own beliefs and she in no way needs to conform because society demands it, the only real issue here is how quuckly the internet considers baseless rumors as fact

[Panda]

The other thing is this....what if the person that played Tali didn't want to play a homosexual part? What is wrong with that?

 

Well the thing is that if you are doing job you can't quite demand writer and developer change their character either just, because you don't personally like something. I guess overall things like these should be discussed in the start though so there won't be conflict on what actor doesn't want to do and what writers/devs have come up with.

[Chealec]

Considering it something as small as romamce lines I don't see the problem. Liz Sroka is a human being with her own beliefs and she in no way needs to conform because society demands it...

 

To a certain extent ... what if she spent her weekend dressed in a sheet with a pointy hat sticking burning crosses on lawns and then refused to do any voice acting where she'd have to talk to Jacob ... would that have been OK?

 

 

Not that I don't think this threat is complete trash due to be locked at any moment.

[maia0407]

So because she may not be comfortable with homosexuality shes suddenly a terrible person?
 

Well, yeah, Duh! This thread is total bait but if a voice actor actually did that I'd label them an ******* Kim Harris wanna be.

[Killdren88]

Considering Bioware's PC image among people, I dobt that that they would associate with anyone that would potentially damage that image. So I don't think she is a homophobe, simply uncomfortable. There is a difference. Am I a homophobe for not wanting to  kiss a man? Of course not.

[Deebo305]

To a certain extent ... what if she spent her weekend dressed in a sheet with a pointy hat sticking burning crosses on lawns and then refused to do any voice acting where she'd have to talk to Jacob ... would that have been OK?

Spoiler

So now after 3 games of working a multicultural staff and actors with different backgrounds and beliefs she suddenly racist too?

I'm done

[Ahglock]

Well the thing is that if you are doing job you can't quite demand writer and developer change their character either just, because you don't personally like something. I guess overall things like these should be discussed in the start though so there won't be conflict on what actor doesn't want to do and what writers/devs have come up with.

Sure there would be nothing wrong with bioware saying we need you to say these lines or we will find a new actor.

But that doesn't mean someone uncomfortable playing a role is the spawn of the devil either. It doesn't even make them a bigot in itself except in the loosest most technical sense of the word like calling someone a bigot because they find green eyes attractive. there is a big difference between not comfortable doing something and I hate those X.

[SardaukarElite]

Which will result in even more stupid threads. In fact.. even months after release it won't end. The DA:I forums are proof of that.

 

Hey at least the DA boards have material to work with. Cassandra's hair mostly, granted.

[Han Shot First]

Wait, their not? Sonuvabitch.

 

I'm thinking about a username change to Captain Obvious.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Thats not actually true. VAs are still actors and thus have contracts they must read through and sign for their jobs, naturally if the VA see something they're not comfortable with performing but the company still want them then they would naturally change it to accommodate and get the purest performance out of said actor

 

 

I agree with you that when you sign a contract you know more or less everything about the character that you have to play, therefore you are free to accept or decline the offer if you feel that you are uncomfortable with him/her. But what happens in the long term? When Tali's VA signed for the first game I think that she didn't even knew that there would be two other games, let alone what would happen to her character.

 

Therefore if the company says you "Hey, for "x" reasons we really need that you character will do "y" in the next game" what will happen? Can you really refuse or force the writers to change the planned story in order to indulge you? Do they replace you with a new VA?

[Ralph2449]

No idea if that is true but the VA's job is to voice the things the dev team wants them to. Not to judge what the lines say.

 

If they dont like something and refuse to voice it then they shouldnt be hired in the first place.

[Cyonan]

But that doesn't mean someone uncomfortable playing a role is the spawn of the devil either. It doesn't even make them a bigot in itself except in the loosest most technical sense of the word like calling someone a bigot because they find green eyes attractive. there is a big difference between not comfortable doing something and I hate those X.

 

Well we are on the internet, where there are people who will legitimately believe that anything and everything makes you a bigot.

 

So I wouldn't be surprised if somebody did call you a bigot for finding green eyes more attractive.

 

You got a problem with blue eyes!?

 

Therefore if the company says you "Hey, for "x" reasons we really need that you character will do "y" in the next game" what will happen? Can you really refuse or force the writers to change the planned story in order to indulge you? Do they replace you with a new VA?

 

Yes you can refuse, and the option is that BioWare replaces you if they feel that strongly about it.

 

I'd also not be at all surprised if by the 2nd and 3rd Mass Effect games the VAs had some influence over the characters they were voicing anyway, including in other areas.

[Han Shot First]

No idea if that is true but the VA's job is to voice the things the dev team wants them to. Not to judge what the lines say.

 

If they dont like something and refuse to voice it then they shouldnt be hired in the first place.

 

 

So far there doesn't seem to be anything more to it than some random person on the BSN / Tumblr / Reddit / Youtube comment section, said so.

 

Its a pile of bullshit, basically.

[AlanC9]

Sure there would be nothing wrong with bioware saying we need you to say these lines or we will find a new actor.
But that doesn't mean someone uncomfortable playing a role is the spawn of the devil either. It doesn't even make them a bigot in itself except in the loosest most technical sense of the word like calling someone a bigot because they find green eyes attractive. there is a big difference between not comfortable doing something and I hate those X.

I'd cut an actor some slack in other media, but It's not like the two women would have had to make out on camera or anything. They wouldn't have even been in the building at the same time.

Sounds like it would come down to not wanting one of your characters to be bisexual. What's a non-bigoted reason for having a problem with that?

(This is all hypothetical, though -- I'm pretty sure the story is b.s.)

[Killdren88]

Okay, after some searching. I think they had planned to make Tali bi based on these videos...

 

(Further back into the video.)

 

And here in ME3

 

 

So I think they had it planned, but simply decided otherwise. Why they changed their mind after recording it all out, I cannot say.

[Ahglock]

I'd cut an actor some slack in other media, but It's not like the two women would have had to make out on camera or anything. They wouldn't have even been in the building at the same time.

Sounds like it would come down to not wanting one of your characters to be bisexual. What's a non-bigoted reason for having a problem with that?

(This is all hypothetical, though -- I'm pretty sure the story is b.s.)

Acting is deeply personal and requires her to get into the character whether there is phsical contact or not? There can be a lot of reasons for it I expect. I don't judge motives so quickly. But yes the entire story sounds like bull.

[Killdren88]

double post my bad.
 

[AlanC9]

Therefore if the company says you "Hey, for "x" reasons we really need that you character will do "y" in the next game" what will happen? Can you really refuse or force the writers to change the planned story in order to indulge you? Do they replace you with a new VA?

Depends on how important you are to the show. The Good Wife seems to have had a problem with Juliana Margulies not being able to stand Archie Panjabi. Since the show's about Margulies' character, she got her way, and Kalinda's gone.

[AlanC9]

Acting is deeply personal and requires her to get into the character whether there is phsical contact or not? There can be a lot of reasons for it I expect. I don't judge motives so quickly. But yes the entire story sounds like bull.

I dunno. Ever read the Jennifer Hale profile in The New Yorker? She couldn't remember if Shepard was still working for Cerberus in ME3.