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[FOZ289]

I don't have particularly great equipment, all of my rare weapons are only I to III, my assault rifles are pretty crummy.  I don't have a stash of Cyclonic Modulators or other such items to use on every mission.  I know build isn't a big deal on Silver and I don't really play Gold because I just support and get carried, but I'm looking for something more interesting.  Right now I just have no Hunter Mode and 6 in everything else.  I use Flamer against bosses and 2-3 enemies, but mainly I just run around with my strongest weapons and Fortification, which is fun and all, but I don't feel like I'm making the most of the class.  Is there more of a hybrid build I should be looking at for incorporating the two passives and Flamer?  

[bauzabauza]

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[Jeremiah12LGeek]

 

Stack power damage bonuses and watch the world burn.

 

Edit: You could go hybrid Power/Melee, stacking melee damage in fitness, and power damage in passives. Skipping Hunter Mode is fine (many people have to because they can't see properly with it activated.)

[DisturbedPsic0]

I don't have particularly great equipment, all of my rare weapons are only I to III, my assault rifles are pretty crummy.  I don't have a stash of Cyclonic Modulators or other such items to use on every mission.  I know build isn't a big deal on Silver and I don't really play Gold because I just support and get carried, but I'm looking for something more interesting.  Right now I just have no Hunter Mode and 6 in everything else.  I use Flamer against bosses and 2-3 enemies, but mainly I just run around with my strongest weapons and Fortification, which is fun and all, but I don't feel like I'm making the most of the class.  Is there more of a hybrid build I should be looking at for incorporating the two passives and Flamer?  

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Build

 

Link your manifest if you want a more specific setup based on what you have. Weapons for mooks, flamer for armor. If you want easy points on gold and want to be bored you can keep your build and use cryo acolyte and just Acolyte->Flamer everything which is really effective and really boring.

[bauzabauza]

 

Stack power damage bonuses and watch the world burn.

 

Edit: You could go hybrid Power/Melee, stacking melee damage in fitness, and power damage in passives. Skipping Hunter Mode is fine (many people have to because they can't see properly with it activated.)

 

jajajajaja hank scorpio approved

 

[TheTechnoTurian]

  Right now I just have no Hunter Mode and 6 in everything else. 

 

The first tip would be to not skip arguably one of the best powers in the game and in fact to put all six ranks into it (and pick rank 6a for the movement speed bonus and enhanced vision). Then, regardless of what you do, you'll get more value out of the class. 

[FOZ289]

Video

 

Build

 

Link your manifest if you want a more specific setup based on what you have. Weapons for mooks, flamer for armor. If you want easy points on gold and want to be bored you can keep your build and use cryo acolyte and just Acolyte->Flamer everything which is really effective and really boring.

 

That seems pretty reasonable, but here's my inventory anyway. Hope the link works, my profile should be public.

http://social.biowar...ack&platform=pc

 

Hunter Mode doesn't hurt my eyes anymore and it was working alright before I switched to all Fortification, I just got really conflicting opinions on it reading through old threads.

[DisturbedPsic0]

That seems pretty reasonable, but here's my inventory anyway. Hope the link works, my profile should be public.

http://social.biowar...ack&platform=pc

 

Hunter Mode doesn't hurt my eyes anymore and it was working alright before I switched to all Fortification, I just got really conflicting opinions on it reading through old threads.

I'd still give my build a go on your account. Claymore II is fine, you don't have high velocity barrel, so use high caliber barrel instead. Mental focuser III is better then Engineering Kit I. Use whatever ammo and amps you have. This guy is completely gold viable, so I'd watch my video and see how to play with him this way and give it a go. You may not top scoreboards right away, but you'll be helping with plenty of damage.

[MaxCrushmore]

Hey OP,

 

for a much newer account (such as yours), this is the optimal build:

 

http://kalence.drupa...72!!..N1!DA.EG9

 

I have taken everything here from your manifest. This character is very powerful and tanky, capable of disposing of big armor units effectively. The Acolyte is really important with this set up fyi. Until you get an SMG HVB, you will have trouble disposing of Guardians, leave them for your teammates

 

When your manifest develops more, the 66653 build recommended above becomes better, as you can easily use cyclonics to mitigate the lack of shields

 

@ Disturbed - I think you are forgetting what it's like to be more of a beginner player without as much experience as those with developed manifests. Recommending a very squishy build is not good. Remember, he doesn't have cyclonics to use every match.

 

Another edit - sorry, I didn't read your OP fully before posting, just the title .. feel free to disregard ..

[Terminator Force]

Do you have zero hours on your manifest too, OP?

[The NightMan Cometh]

Let us see your "stuff" ..promise..no judgement....

 

^^^^ means...could you please link your manifest so we can give you our best opinions on how to maximize what you have?

[FOZ289]

I already linked it, some people already responded to it.

[Quarian Master Race]

No flamer build. I'll be less likely to kick you and thus more likely to carry you to victory.

[ark]

I would take one of these:

 

Hybrid tanky no huntermode build with geth shotgun

 

not so tanky, but very powerful all flamer build. Be warned, can get boring

[7twozero]

45665 is a good hybrid build and is the one I use on gold all the time, 5 in fortification and fitness makes it almost as tanky as 6 and still gets fast shield regen, take one or two decent guns, some ammo, and any shield recharge or shield boosting gear you have. Flamer won't do a ton at rank 4 but is still good for priming spawns and panicking mooks and hiding weapon reloads. It's not really min/maxed any one way but is still really capable and I'm not tempted to burn through respec cards switching builds around. Skipping hunter mode or flamer is viable too I guess for anyone having a low manifest.

[Quarian Master Race]

why would you skip hunter mode and then equip scanner except for to intentionally troll other people in the lobby with a silly build?

Even if you absolutely need max fitness, fortification and lamer, is that 10% additive weapon damage bonus in rank 6 of passive really getting you more than 3 ranks in HM (10% movement speed, 10% accuracy, 7.5% weapon/power damage and 15m of free wallhax) and a free gear slot to equip Armored compartments, more gels, more shields, more ops more weapon damage or whatever else you may want.

I feel like there is some BSN sarcasm that I'm simply failing to detect here. Needs moar suggestions of cryo ammo plat made easy build.

[The NightMan Cometh]

OP, have you figured out how to re-load cancel yet? If so, this is what I came up with based on everything you got.....

 

http://kalence.drupa...23913313!D75BG9

 

Very survivable..the gear slot was tricky..due to your only being able to carry 2 medi-gels & 3 ops packs....maybe I would make an argument for either Survivor Loadout..which add 6% shields along with +1 Ops packs..or using the only shotgun gear you have, that being the Shocktrooper package  <--even though it is supposed to add grenades that won't matter..you still get the shotgun boost

[Olivia Wilde]

Flamer Geth Trooper Doesn't need weapons (aside from maybe something with a piercing mod) or hunter mode

[DisturbedPsic0]

@ Disturbed - I think you are forgetting what it's like to be more of a beginner player without as much experience as those with developed manifests. Recommending a very squishy build is not good. Remember, he doesn't have cyclonics to use every match.

I checked the manifest. He doesn't need cyclonics to work. Hes fast, has dodge, fortification DR, wall hacks for super helpful vision, cyclonics are just a bonus that lets you be sloppy. Claymore and flamer do tons of damage even without any amps. I also directed him to watch the video and pay attention to how I move, right hand advantage, and reload cancel the Claymore. It's meant as a helpful video to help people grow. Can't stay in silver forever...I know I wish I would've moved up way sooner.

[The NightMan Cometh]

 

 

 

 

 I think you are forgetting what it's like to be more of a beginner player without as much experience as those with developed manifests. Recommending a very squishy build is not good. Remember, he doesn't have cyclonics to use every match.

 

 

 

Agreed..it is one thing giving advice on how to play to someone else after you have gotten so much experience..that you can forget how difficult it was to 1st break into a higher difficulty...For me back then, my main goal was to stay alive & contribute as much as I possibly could ..I still remember the nervousness I felt going into my 1st Gold game.  That being said I still put the cyclonics in the build I gave due to the fact..more shields means easier to figure out what is damaging you from where & give you a few extra seconds to get out of it's way... and then decide how to attack it.

 

edit: If it is pre-set to reapers then no cyclonics.

[FOZ289]

I know about reload cancel.  Can also cancel the animation but the sounds will continue playing and give you a reload while using the Flamer, but I don't know what the timing is for that and if it's reliable.

 

I don't do great in Gold, but not entirely bad either. The main problem is it gets boring doing so little damage.  It turns the Black Widow into a peashooter since mine isn't upgraded and all of my damage comes Flamering bosses.  I don't know if a Claymore II cuts it either.  

[MaxCrushmore]

why would you skip hunter mode and then equip scanner except for to intentionally troll other people in the lobby with a silly build?

Even if you absolutely need max fitness, fortification and lamer, is that 10% additive weapon damage bonus in rank 6 of passive really getting you more than 3 ranks in HM (10% movement speed, 10% accuracy, 7.5% weapon/power damage and 15m of free wallhax) and a free gear slot to equip Armored compartments, more gels, more shields, more ops more weapon damage or whatever else you may want.

I feel like there is some BSN sarcasm that I'm simply failing to detect here. Needs moar suggestions of cryo ammo plat made easy build.

 

And don't forget the -500 shields.

 

For players with much experience who understand all the game mechanics and know where all the enemies are going to be on any given map, anytime, then yes, the extra fitness is probably not needed. For newer players, there is a learning curve associated with this process. Quite frankly it is annoying when people suggest to newer players not to invest in fitness. It helps them.

 

I will say, even now, my GT is spec'd 66653, and if I don't use a cyclonic, then I have to play defensively. It is not a tanky build. One of this characters strengths is the ability to make it a high dps / damage resistant kit without consumables at all, and that build is a 66066.

 

I used Geth Scanner in that build because that is the OPs best piece of gear.

 

What's really overrated on this forum are passives. Most of them suck bad. Any vanilla human, Krogan, Asari (minus possibly Justicar), Quarian (minus Marksman) and some others just aren't very good.

 

Personally for the GT/Acolyte build I like using Disruptor or Phasic ammo

[FOZ289]

Anyway, for now I'm doing 6/6/6/5/3 with Claymore and Acolyte. Won 3 Gold games and didn't bottom score, so I think it's alright.  The extra Flamer range can make a big difference, and Geth are no problem at all.

 

Not sure what other classes I can make viable Gold builds with.  Aside from N7 Slayer.  

[Arkhne]

Anyway, for now I'm doing 6/6/6/5/3 with Claymore and Acolyte. Won 3 Gold games and didn't bottom score, so I think it's alright.  The extra Flamer range can make a big difference, and Geth are no problem at all.

 

Not sure what other classes I can make viable Gold builds with.  Aside from N7 Slayer.  

 

Checking manifest, AIU with Claymore, Basic Human Adept with Acolyte (Seriously, learn this one, then everything else will come).

 

Build: http://kalence.drupa...!41Y12373!GF8.G

(I noticed you were PC, so I skipped Radius on Shockwave)

I can't talk about how effective this is on PC, since I rely heavily on Shockwave.

I can, however, suggest a playstyle (for until you get comfortable with it)

Singularity curves, just like most powers, making for some fun trick shots around corners (Shockwave goes through walls).

 

For Mooks: Throw Singularity at enemy -> Roll Sideways -> Shockwave at Singularity.

For Shielded Enemies: Charge Acolyte -> Throw Singularity at Enemy -> Shoot Acolyte -> Shockwave.

For Bosses: Warp -> Acolyte -> Shockwave -> Repeat until Shields/Barriers dropped -> Warp -> Roll Sideways -> Shockwave -> Repeat until Dead.

 

You may notice I recommend rolling sideways a lot, this is a habit I have picked up with the class, rolling produces a very small period of invincibility, surrounded by moments of Damage Reduction, combined with the difficulty of hitting a target rolling sideways. Basically, the human adept is squishy, but I find rolling improves my survivability.

[filippopotame]

Here is another build I recommend with him : http://kalence.drupa.....X1..71!F78B5C

Why I recommend it ? Because :

• Like Technoturian said huntermode is a must, not only for the detection that a geth scanner can compensate, but also for the mobility, recharge speed and damage bonuses (well recharge speed is not a must but anyway) the -500 shields get compensated by fortification or even better by a cyclonic if you have one
• Especially for a begginer : take range on you flamer : it will allow you to take less risks to get (geth) to flamer range and allow you to hit more targets at the same time
• Extended mag is not a must on him, you're better off with 30% more power damage

Here is my first platinum solo, with this build :

 

I love the claymore build, but I feel it's not the easyest (need to reload-cancell, high cooldwn)