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[Teh_Ocelot]

I know there are a lot over very powerful kits in the game, DAI, GI, AIU, kroguard, Drelldept, etc, but I'm curious as to what you all think as the best overall character. 

 

Personally, the QME gets my vote is the best overall kit in the game. He has shield stripping in Arc Nades, armor mitigation in Incinerate, can prime and detonate his own FE's and TB's, has a functional debuff in Tac Scan for bosses, and reasonably good passives and health. His CC is unrivaled, he can use all weapons classes effectively, some more than others obviously, but anything from AR's to Sniper Rifles can be used very effectively on this kit and his cooldowns are all still reasonably good. 

 

You can also utilize different armor and ammo bonuses. AM's, CM's, Power Amp's, Power Efficiency Mod's would all be viable, obv the first 3 more than PEM's, but still a viable option. AP, Cryo, Disruptor, Incendiary, Drill, even Warp has good utility. His powers can also be adjusted to take further advantage of Cryo, if you take 6a in Incinerate.

 

Again, he doesn't really have any glaring weakness and has some amazing abilities, particularly his CC effectiveness. I have said before, and I will say again, he is tech-bursting, kill-streak earning, crowd-controlling, fire-exploding (Quarian) master (race). 

 

I expect the Paladin to also get a lot of love, I know in some regard he's basically the Swiss Army knife of kits, but his powers all accomplish basically the same thing that the QME's do but without the CC, and he's also pretty buggy. I wouldn't argue him as a choice, but personally I'd take the CC of the QME and his readily-available detonator as a slight edge against the Paladin.

[bauzabauza]

ANY KROGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!, Salarian Inf. the small salamander is very resistant, and can hold the line!!!!

[Teh_Ocelot]

ANY KROGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!, Salarian Inf. the small salamander is very resistant, and can hold the line!!!!

Do love the invisible frog 

 

I figured the kroguard would get some love b/c of survivability, but idk if I'd say he's a better overall kit than the QME.

[justinman114]

Smashbros.  Biotics FTW.

[Arkhne]

Juggernaut, because reasons.

[TheNightSlasher]

From a variety perspective (while being incredibly powerful), I'd give the vote to Paladin.

 

GI obviously deserves a mention for the incredible weapon damage he can put out. 

[dzejkob]

i hate difficult questions, there are too many amazing kits.

Well for me i would say turian saboteur engineer is one of the best (the guy is really under rated) you can do a lot of tech explosions; with the turret (using flame thrower to set up fire explosions), sabotage and homing grenades. its got a really good ability to take Armour ou,t a lot of health and shields and if you use disruptor rounds you can do even more explosions, taking shields out may not be best with this guy tho but with a good weapon it should be fine (like saber). good for cleaning spawns (i had to pick this guy since he is really really good but people dont really like using him) 

 

but as i said its one of the best in my opinion at least, the kits mentioned above like are few of the best as well (funny thing is everyone will think differently about which is best character depending on who plays what, what map and what enemy  )

[larsdt]

More biotic kits plz!

 

I would say all reasons for the best overall kit is mentioned in the OP except team synergy.

[DaryAlexV]

Krogan Soldier. 

[afgncaap7]

The best character is whichever one you're best with.

[._.]

agreed

[Swan Killer]

Valkyrie.

[q5tyhj]

Vorcha Sentinel- STRONGEST!!!

 

(honorable mention to BatDept, Drellgod and Valkyrie)

[physiolosopher]

Dare I say vanilla human adept? It's not my favorite character but I just can't name anyone better. Crowd control, debuffing, staggering, strong vanilla human passive, useful and fast heavy melee, warp's seamless integration with all types of squad combinations, shockwave wallhax, biotic explosions from all distances, super powerful warp-shockwave combo with quick cooldown, singularity-warp-warp-detonate double biotic explosions to lock down mobs surrounding bosses. If you can embrace the squish, I believe you can't do better. An* N7 20 pug with a quick google search can go into a gold or platinum with a level 1 predator and meaningfully contribute to team success. 

 

Vorcha Sentinel- STRONGEST!!!

 

Also this. Assuming venom.

 

*edit - changed A N7 to An N7

[Arkhne]

Dare I say vanilla human adept? It's not my favorite character but I just can't name anyone better. Crowd control, debuffing, staggering, strong vanilla human passive, useful and fast heavy melee, warp's seamless integration with all types of squad combinations, shockwave wallhax, biotic explosions from all distances, super powerful warp-shockwave combo with quick cooldown, singularity-warp-warp-detonate double biotic explosions to lock down mobs surrounding bosses. If you can embrace the squish, I believe you can't do better. A N7 20 pug with a quick google search can go into a gold or platinum with a level 1 predator and meaningfully contribute to team success. 

 

 

Also this. Assuming venom.

 

Basic Human Adept is such a powerhouse. And underappreciated. Newbs don't know their potential, and Veterans have other things they enjoy, often forgetting just how powerful this Basic character is. I'm glad someone pointed this out.  Have a like.

[Loufi]

That's obviously a difficult question. The GI immediatly comes to mind, as he has 2 of the best powers in the game. His natural wallhax ability also means that he gains a free gear slot, that he can use to carry 9 missiles, 9 medi-gels, etc. I believe that, given how weapons tend to be the main source of damage in this game, a very skilled player will get his best performance (regarding damage output) with the geth infiltrator.

 

The TGI is a serious competitor too. He has also a huge dps, and can get back his shields on demand without any cooldown. I would say that if it's for breaking records, then the GI might be better, but the TGI is the guy I would trust the most to get any mission done.

 

DAI deserves a mention too. Besides his movement speed and dps, having a power which slow down enemies, debuff and offers a second source of wallhax is something I value very highly.

 

What you say about the QME is very true. One could push forward and say that he may be the best character for us consoles scrubs who can't aim players who value more powers. 

[Excella Gionne]

Alliance Milfiltration Unit

[Oni Changas]

I know there are a lot over very powerful kits in the game, DAI, GI, AIU, kroguard, Drelldept, etc, but I'm curious as to what you all think as the best overall character.

Personally, the QME gets my vote is the best overall kit in the game. He has shield stripping in Arc Nades, armor mitigation in Incinerate, can prime and detonate his own FE's and TB's, has a functional debuff in Tac Scan for bosses, and reasonably good passives and health. His CC is unrivaled, he can use all weapons classes effectively, some more than others obviously, but anything from AR's to Sniper Rifles can be used very effectively on this kit and his cooldowns are all still reasonably good.

You can also utilize different armor and ammo bonuses. AM's, CM's, Power Amp's, Power Efficiency Mod's would all be viable, obv the first 3 more than PEM's, but still a viable option. AP, Cryo, Disruptor, Incendiary, Drill, even Warp has good utility. His powers can also be adjusted to take further advantage of Cryo, if you take 6a in Incinerate.

Again, he doesn't really have any glaring weakness and has some amazing abilities, particularly his CC effectiveness. I have said before, and I will say again, he is tech-bursting, kill-streak earning, crowd-controlling, fire-exploding (Quarian) master (race).

I expect the Paladin to also get a lot of love, I know in some regard he's basically the Swiss Army knife of kits, but his powers all accomplish basically the same thing that the QME's do but without the CC, and he's also pretty buggy. I wouldn't argue him as a choice, but personally I'd take the CC of the QME and his readily-available detonator as a slight edge against the Paladin.

I agree, QME is a tech WMD. Paladin does tie imo. Add flame shield and you have a pure bully against all enemy units but Praetorians. Snap Freeze->ED can kill a squad of hunters and pyros alone. Anything still standing can take a shield to the face.

[geezer117]

Probably should have a topic on what the "best" means. If it means synergizes with any team, and strong solo, there are still several choices all good. My vote goes to the vanilla Sentinel, 66606 acolyte/hurricane incendiary IV ammo. The sequence acolyte to the feet/ immediate warp for FE explosion/ quick throw for BE area explosion is a killer. VSen has a nice dodge and runs fast, and with TA specced for durability and Pwr Dmg, he can take it and dish it out. He also works well with biotic or tech teams, and can debuff for gun teams. Nice, but no argument against the Valk. 

[holdenagincourt]

There are too many in the highest echelon to definitively choose one (especially with no objective criteria for "best"). And overall, kits are balanced far better than weapons.

 

I will say that I think you overrate crowd control in your final estimation. If the game is being played correctly, it is almost entirely redundant.

[Teh_Ocelot]

Probably should have a topic on what the "best" means.

What I mean is, if you look at all the options available to the character, which one allows you to gain power without giving something up, and has something to offer in all areas. 

 

For example, imo the GI can't be considered the overall best character b/c despite it's ungodly high dps and it's team-wide debuff and wallhax, it's so incredibly squishy that overall, other characters will come close to matching it's offensive output without sacrificing so much hp.

 

Imagine a set of sliders, like you'd see on a sound board: what I'm looking for is a character that moves all sliders forward, not one that moves some forward a ton and some back, a la the GI.

[Teh_Ocelot]

There are too many in the highest echelon to definitively choose one (especially with no objective criteria for "best"). And overall, kits are balanced far better than weapons.

 

I will say that I think you overrate crowd control in your final estimation. If the game is being played correctly, it is almost entirely redundant.

I PUG a lot, so rarely is the game being played "correctly" haha. The fact that Arc Nades simultaneously detonate and prime can't be ignored, imho.

[Teh_Ocelot]

The best character is whichever one you're best with.

Do share then; which character are you best with? It's an open-ended question for a reason, I'm not saying there's a definitive answer. I'm legitimately curious to see what people think, which is why I asked 

[physiolosopher]

For example, imo the GI can't be considered the overall best character b/c despite it's ungodly high dps and it's team-wide debuff and wallhax, it's so incredibly squishy that overall, other characters will come close to matching it's offensive output without sacrificing so much hp.

 

I'd argue that if you're going to die a lot with the GI you'll probably die a lot with other strong offensive characters, too. GI survivability is about winning the quick draw if an enemy has his sights on you. Of all weaknesses, low HP is the easiest to counteract with tactics.

[introverted_assassin]

The Fury.