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[SherryGold]

This is how Zevran does it on the nightmare difficulty, equipped with rose's thorn with three paralysis runes.

Switch on momentum, apply swift salve and concentrated soldier's bane (just in case). One dirty fighting and game over within ten seconds. Zevran is so fast that he can stab Loghain enough times to have him paralyzed before he recovers. No other talents in his arsenal, namely riposte, was even needed, although his passive duel wield talents have been unlocked up to duel wield expert. Tested it twice with vanilla items only and it worked both times.

[SherryGold]

My first playthrough, I was a S&S warrior, and just couldn't beat Loghain on easy difficulty. Alistair died even quicker. I had to restart the game and pay attention to attributes, etc, but I never tried Alistair again. I probably won't because I prefer Loghain to live. But I am curious. Has anyone beat Loghain with Alistair on nightmare difficulty, using only vanilla items? If so, what was his stat and gear? What strategy did you use?

[luna1124]

Poisons.. give him all you have!! Stealth helps if you are a rogue.

[dainbramage]

My first playthrough, I was a S&S warrior, and just couldn't beat Loghain on easy difficulty. Alistair died even quicker. I had to restart the game and pay attention to attributes, etc, but I never tried Alistair again. I probably won't because I prefer Loghain to live. But I am curious. Has anyone beat Loghain with Alistair on nightmare difficulty, using only vanilla items? If so, what was his stat and gear? What strategy did you use?

I normally fight myself, but I'll send Alistair if I want to kill Loghain and marry Anora. Build isn't really a mystery. 26 dex, rest strength. Massive armor of some variety (usually knight commanders plate if he's my tank), waraxe (veshialle, axameter or aodh), high def shield (howes, Duncan's, champions). Limited to vanilla diligence are the best boots, and either diligence or ancient elven gloves.

Strategy is to hit loghain til he dies. Shield wall on obviously, use your own knockdowns before loghain turns on shield wall. Then use talents whenever they're off cooldown. Shouldn't need to use a potion.

[SherryGold]

I normally fight myself, but I'll send Alistair if I want to kill Loghain and marry Anora. Build isn't really a mystery. 26 dex, rest strength. Massive armor of some variety (usually knight commanders plate if he's my tank), waraxe (veshialle, axameter or aodh), high def shield (howes, Duncan's, champions). Limited to vanilla diligence are the best boots, and either diligence or ancient elven gloves.

Strategy is to hit loghain til he dies. Shield wall on obviously, use your own knockdowns before loghain turns on shield wall. Then use talents whenever they're off cooldown. Shouldn't need to use a potion.

Does shield wall prevent Al from being knocked down by Loghain's war cry?

[dainbramage]

Does shield wall prevent Al from being knocked down by Loghain's war cry?

 

Yes (as well as bash and overpower) so long as you have shield expertise.

[Heimerdinger]

If the player has a build that's at least decent then:

 

Mage - the Bane of Loghain. Seriously, this isn't even funny, magic counters him so hard and he can't resist all the spells in your arsenal. He will be mostly frozen, petrified, paralized, horrored, hexed, cursed, drained, stuck in crushing prison etc for most of the fight. The exception is a defense/support mage focused on Creation and anti-magic. Not many play this build but if that's the case just have a companion fight instead.

 

*Arcane warrior - activate your sustains, right click auto-attack and watch Loghain fail.

 

Dual Wield Rogue - you should have high Dexterity thus high defense score so some of Loghain's attacks will not connect at all. You also have 2 good stuns in your kit (Dirty Fighting and Riposte) but it gets even better: bring Concentrated Deathroot Extract. He will be stunned for most of the fight.

 

2 Handed warrior - activate Indomitable and win.

 

Sword & Shield Warrior - activate Shield Wall and win

 

Dual Wield Warrior - you are OP as hell. Stop complaining.

 

Archer - this late in the game you should be auto-attacking like a boss with good crit chance. Pinning Shot to immobilize and Shattering Shot for armor debuff are all you need plus auto-attacks, just AA him to death. He will knock you down a lot but it should not be a problem, you have high defense score because of high Dexterity.

[Scatha]

DW rogue, put paralyze runes on your weapons, the fight will be ridiculously easy.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

omg.  It's so f-ing easy! Let Morrigan or Wynne do it! Get to a safe distance from him,and then freeze him with ice spells.Once he's frozen,use spells or your magic stuff to damage him.When he gets too close,start running again and freeze him...repeat a few times,and he's down! He's much easier to defeat compares to that Dalish mage leader.

The one time I found it easy was as my Elf Mage. I dueled him myself.

 

The mage knew Cone of Cold, Stonefist, and Blood Wound. I don't think he knew Paralyze, but freezing Loghain and lighting Loghain's bloodstream on fire did the trick if he didn't.

 

(I don't know how relevant this is, but I played on Casual.)

 

 

Poisons.. give him all you have!!

 

I also did this once. It was the playthrough I decided to let Zevran have a piece of Loghain, to Zevran's mild amusement.

 

A tip that I think will help no matter who fights Loghain: don't be afraid of your potions. This isn't Fallout. Withdrawal is not a thing.

[Idun]

I got there twice, both my Cousland and my Brosca are dual wield warriors with Topsider's Honor/Keening Blade. Didn't have too much trouble with him but I always play casual.

[SherryGold]

I normally fight myself, but I'll send Alistair if I want to kill Loghain and marry Anora. Build isn't really a mystery. 26 dex, rest strength. Massive armor of some variety (usually knight commanders plate if he's my tank), waraxe (veshialle, axameter or aodh), high def shield (howes, Duncan's, champions). Limited to vanilla diligence are the best boots, and either diligence or ancient elven gloves.

Strategy is to hit loghain til he dies. Shield wall on obviously, use your own knockdowns before loghain turns on shield wall. Then use talents whenever they're off cooldown. Shouldn't need to use a potion.

Didn't work on nightmare difficulty. I even gave him my lifeguard ring and Zev's key to the city. Had to replay the whole scene and use Zevran to finish him off in no time.