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[sjsharp2011]

My only gripe, albeit minor, was that it just had to be the only black dude on the ship to do it. Imagine the uproar if we got to Menae and found that Garrus coupled up with a turian female despite romancing Shepard. The rage would burn hotter than that orange blaze seen on Palaven XD

Yeah but I didn't think we'd get that with Garrus as he's the loyal type when he agrees to something he sticks to it. For me that's one of the main reasons why I like him so much.

 

As for Jacob I cheated on him as well so didn't bother me as I started a romance with Traynor in ME3 during the playthrough I romanced him.

[Helios969]

You know, more and more I'm getting to the point where I'd wish Bioware would abandon romance options altogether and just focus on great storytelling and gameplay.  I would have happily given up romances in DAI if it would have resulted in meaningful sidequests triggered with cutscenes, or a non-human Inquisitor that provided a unique experience with respect to a given race, or a well conceived final battle with Corypheus in which all your companions were brought to bear (like ME2.)

[Hazegurl]

BW doesn't have to abandon romance options.  Just stop giving people so freaking many.  Three or four consistent choices throughout the series is enough.  BW can focus content on them, integrate the romances into the plot more, and still provide meaningful side content.  But everyone wants every single sexuality represented, and they want to screw every single alien race created. And BW either lacks the confidence to just say no or build a whorehouse in game.

[Han Shot First]

BW doesn't have to abandon romance options.  Just stop giving people so freaking many.  Three or four consistent choices throughout the series is enough.  BW can focus content on them, integrate the romances into the plot more, and still provide meaningful side content.  But everyone wants every single sexuality represented, and they want to screw every single alien race created. And BW either lacks the confidence to just say no or build a whorehouse in game.

 

With four options I think they could still keep every player's preferences reasonably well represented. Two straight and two gay or bisexual LIs would cover all bases.

 

People will still gripe of course, but that is going to happen even if the entire cast of companions were LIs. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I don't think the plan is for a new trilogy, so romance continuity is probably not an issue.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Oh, and In before Andramada!

[Mathias]

Ashley was my romance in my canon playthrough, and I remember being upset over how her character was handled in ME3. But then I realized I was one of the lucky ones. Seriously feel bad for people who canon romanced Jacob, Thane, Miranda, and Jack. Even Tali to an extent given how much of a letdown revealing her face was.  

[Panda]

I didn't understand the complaints about Thane dying either. The first thing he says to Shepard in ME2 is that he is dying. It wasn't like Thane dying at some point during ME3 was a surprise. His final moments at Huerta Memorial were also one of the best and most emotional scenes of the entire series. 

 

The only complaint from the Thanemancers that I sympathized with was that he had very little content in ME3 before the death scene, and that prior to the Citadel DLC no one really acknowledged his death. 

 

Well I think you did point out the problems of Thanemance ^^ I don't think it's problem that he dies, but the lack of content and passing away so soon is the problem. I think his death should have been mentioned more even without Citadel DLC. If you didn't romance him most you got was scene in the hospital and then "that was for Thane" when killing Kai Leng.

[Ryzaki]

BW doesn't have to abandon romance options.  Just stop giving people so freaking many.  Three or four consistent choices throughout the series is enough.  BW can focus content on them, integrate the romances into the plot more, and still provide meaningful side content.  But everyone wants every single sexuality represented, and they want to screw every single alien race created. And BW either lacks the confidence to just say no or build a whorehouse in game.

 

Or the devs could give each group one exclusive LI (So in the end 4 lis. Two males two females) and tell them to suck it up if they don't like their choice.

 

That way we could get a whole bunch of content with that one character.

[Former_Fiend]

I didn't understand the complaints about Thane dying either. The first thing he says to Shepard in ME2 is that he is dying. It wasn't like Thane dying at some point during ME3 was a surprise. His final moments at Huerta Memorial were also one of the best and most emotional scenes of the entire series. 

 

The only complaint from the Thanemancers that I sympathized with was that he had very little content in ME3 before the death scene, and that prior to the Citadel DLC no one really acknowledged his death. 

 

That I can agree with. It was slightly jarring to me that when we get back on the ship Garrus is more interested in talking about how it's good we didn't have to kill the VS rather than talking about Thane or Kirahe. 

 

Still, Thanemancers did get that incredibly moving death scene, where as Miranda and Jack got so little. 

 

So, yeah. Given that their ability to write satisfactory romances across multiple games really does seem to hinge on those LI's remaining on the squad, and given that carrying over squadmates for romance limits the number of new squadmates, new stories, new perspectives they get to bring us, and new, different romance stories they get to tell us via new LI's, along with a variety of other, non-romance related reasons, I think it's best to keep it to one protagonist, one game.

[SinisterSquash]

 

Still, Thanemancers did get that incredibly moving death scene, where as Miranda and Jack got so little. 

 

Really?? If Miranda dies (optional) maleShep can hold her, look devastated, and tell her he loves her, and people talk about it. When Thane dies (forced...so could the writers even be bothered to show differences) femShep is forced to treat the death like friendShep, like he is just a friend. She can't tell the man she loves, you know, that she loves him before he dies or even touch his hand or cry, or fvcking show any goddamed emotion at all. That requires a $15 dollar purchase for an exclamation of love and showing of tears. So yes, even his death, to those who romanced him, is severely lacking for the romance. 

 

Also, maybe you didn't  know this, but...

 

BioWare cut out lines from his death scene where him and femShep have a more loving exchange if he was romanced. From several cut lines, one that sticks out in my memory is that he says "Your memory is not like ours, but I hope you'll keep me in it for a little while". It was recorded, why not put it in!

[Former_Fiend]

Really?? If Miranda dies (optional) maleShep can hold her, look devastated, and tell her he loves her, and people talk about it. When Thane dies (forced...so could the writers even be bothered to show differences) femShep is forced to treat the death like friendShep, like he is just a friend. She can't tell the man she loves, you know, that she loves him before he dies or even touch his hand or cry, or fvcking show any goddamed emotion at all. That requires a $15 dollar purchase for an exclamation of love and showing of tears. So yes, even his death, to those who romanced him, is severely lacking for the romance. 

 

Frankly, if you Romance Miranda and have it to where Kai Leng kills her, you done goofed. 

[SinisterSquash]

Frankly, if you Romance Miranda and have it to where Kai Leng kills her, you done goofed. 

That is not the point! The point is they did more for an optional scene (you can easily avoid) for one romance and for a forced scene (you cannot avoid) the bare minimum. And femShep was already screwed in the romance department as it were. MaleShep who loves Miranda, witnesses her unexpected death, can show emotion and tell her he loves her. FemShep who loves Thane, witnesses the expected death of her lover, and shows none of that emotion at all, cannot touch his hand, kiss his forehead or cheek, or say "I love you" to him at all before he dies. Why can't she tell the man she loves that she loves him, this is her last chance after all.

[KaiserShep]

That is not the point! The point is they did more for an optional scene (you can easily avoid) for one romance and for a forced scene (you cannot avoid) the bare minimum. And femShep was already screwed in the romance department as it were. MaleShep who loves Miranda, witnesses her unexpected death, can show emotion and tell her he loves her. FemShep who loves Thane, witnesses the expected death of her lover, and shows none of that emotion at all, cannot touch his hand, kiss his forehead or cheek, or say "I love you" to him at all before he dies. Why can't she tell the man she loves that she loves him, this is her last chance after all.

 

You're right that it was poorly treated by comparison. However, the award for emptiest loss of an LI is easily Jack. You romance Jack, but if you failed to go to Grissom (after all you don't know that Jack is there) and then you listen to those agonizing audio logs on Cronos and subsequently gun her down, Shepard just has to keep moving and says little on it. Just another thing the Illusive Man has to pay for. 

[Killdren88]

Never took Thane anywhere really outside his loyalty mission. Can't say I've felt the same impact of loss with regards to him. Even forgot to visit him on his deathbed at least twice in seprate play throughs. Still all the same would sorta suck I guess if you put investment in the character.

[SinisterSquash]

You're right that it was poorly treated by comparison. However, the award for emptiest loss of an LI is easily Jack. You romance Jack, but if you failed to go to Grissom (after all you don't know that Jack is there) and then you listen to those agonizing audio logs on Cronos and subsequently gun her down, Shepard just has to keep moving and says little on it. Just another thing the Illusive Man has to pay for. 

All optional of course. Thane's death is not optional. I tried digging up the unused dialogue for his deathbed romanced scene. Came up empty, tumblr account it was on is deleted, but I did hear it back in 2012 and again in 2013, since then the account holder has moved on it seems. A lot of Thanemancers (not all obviously) left this series for Dragon Age or all out refuse BioWare products, and one very vocal one died of a chronic illness back in 2013. When the ThaneMod came out, I was hoping the modders would reintroduce the cut dialogue for his death scene, but it was firmly stated they were not working on his death scene, just keeping him alive. I have no issue with Thane dying, but wish they had made it different for a romanced version. I really wanted my Shep to show emotion, tears, show some type of loving affection, and for fvcks sake tell the man she loves him before he dies.

[Han Shot First]

 A lot of Thanemancers (not all obviously) left this series for Dragon Age or all out refuse BioWare products, and one very vocal one died of a chronic illness back in 2013. 

 

Wow, that sucks. Who was it? 

 

I was around then, so I'm wondering if it was anyone I might remember.

[SinisterSquash]

Wow, that sucks. Who was it? 

 

I was around then, so I'm wondering if it was anyone I might remember.

http://savethane.tum...-inform-you-all

[Doyle41]

I personally hope they add many option to romance. I like the minor romances as well. However, if a minor romance becomes popular, I would like Bioware to enhance that character in a next installment. I hope they include lots of side piece and two timing action also. I want my character to be a ******. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have a main love interest to be open to open relationships too. Kinda like a hardened Leliana.

[Ashii6]

If romances happen, I hope we won't be able to screw everything that moves. Honestly, can't BioWare just focus on few romances to build relationship between PC and LI? Romances in ME were usually just... bad. Two/three convos and apparently we're ready to bang everyone. Especially in ME2. Not enough content and the whole relationship between Shep and his/hers LI looked bad.
I prefer few romances with more content and better quality, than being able to romance anyone and have 2 or 3 convos with them in total.

[Han Shot First]

http://savethane.tum...-inform-you-all

 

I do remember her. Wow, that sucks. When frequent posters just disappear I always assume they've become bored with the forum or just moved on to other games. Its sad to hear that wasn't the case with her.

[TheButterflyEffect]

The only situation I really disliked was the one with Jacob. Literally the only romanceable NPC who cheats on you. That... played into some very unfortunate ethnic stereotypes. Made me uneasy. 

[rocklikeafool]

This was a troubling trend in the trilogy and I hope it's something that we won't see again in the new games. As someone who only romanced Kelly, Diana and Jacob

Why exactly would you romance those characters?!

 

Edit:

 

The only situation I really disliked was the one with Jacob. Literally the only romanceable NPC who cheats on you. That... played into some very unfortunate ethnic stereotypes. Made me uneasy. 

What's wrong with a game making you feel uneasy?...O.o

[KaiserShep]

Why exactly would you romance those characters?!

My Shepard hooks up with Kelly in ME2 after the suicide mission. I always see it as one of those things that just happens after the stress of a big rescue mission and then it's over.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Why exactly would you romance those characters?!

Well for me it's because Kelly was a really nice person. 

Plus it being the only romance in the trilogy without a mandatory sex scene was nice.