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[Queen Skadi]

And are they Bioware's vision of the utopian society that can be possible for humantiy? Like were there ever male Asari? Did progressive Asari scientists find a cure for the male condition leading into the utopian society we see in the games? Can humanity ever achieve this level of progressiveness? Is this Bioware's vision of the perfect society?

[Daemul]

[Quarian Master Race]

Nah, asari society is close but isn't quite utopian yet.....

their #1 industry is stripping instead of making sammiches.

[Ahglock]

No, they were never awesome Humanity#1.

[daveliam]

Skadi is a solid troll because her posts are just within the realm of believability for nonsense BSN posts but not so ridiculous as to scare the average poster away.

 

My response?  Where's that Tom Hardy "That's bait" gif?

[Kalas Magnus]

get rid of toxicmasculinity?

[LightningSamus]

What you talking about Skadi?

[afgncaap7]

Asari? Perfect? Pick one, because you're not getting both with the Asari. The games make it clear time and time again that the Asari are no less petty, selfish or dirty than any other race. They just like to pretend otherwise.

[Beren Von Ostwick]

"A cure for the male condition"   This just puts me in a Chuck Berry mood.

 

[themikefest]

The asari perfect? hahahahaha.

 

 

Humanity #1

[Beerfish]

 

Utopian indeed!

[Lyrandori]

Well OP does have a point, folks.

 

Blue mind-reading space lesbians with high tech (that lone, my friends, is Utopia), and they can essentially reproduce with anything that happens to be organic (ok maybe that's pushing it a bit, but gotta say they won't run out of choices any time soon). Not to mention that anything (well ok, anyone) they reproduce with turns out Asari anyway. They're all natural biotics too (well, granted, Protheans apparently tempered with their genetics a bit for that), and they can live up to (and beyond) the 1,000 years mark.

 

So hummmm... yeah. The thing is, no, that wasn't BioWare's "vision" (or wish) of a would-be 'real Utopia' here in our reality. It was just one or two guys' personal visions of what their ideal sci-fi, imaginary female-only alien species would look and be like. I must say, however, that they've done a pretty damn good job at it (I do genuinely love the Asari in the ME's universe, and also in overall Sci-Fi entertainment and literature; they just fit the "sci-fi vibe" right on).

[AgentMrOrange]

sorry maleness is a terminal disease the human race is doomed.

 

also synthetic > meatbag  

[yolobastien6412]

There were some videos I saw some time ago wondering if males will go extinct, and if only females are required for the human species (or future species) to survive.

This will probably not be an issue but if... maybe a female only human species or descendant of the humans is possible?

 

And then there's this:

[BronzTrooper]

also synthetic > meatbag  

 

[9TailsFox]

[Navasha]

Assuming for a moment that this is a serious question, then you have to ask when the asari acquired their ability to procreate as they do.    The male/female split works on the evolutionary level because they produce more successful and varied offspring than asexual reproduction does.  

 

From an ecological view, the Asari progenitor species probably were an asexual species, which might also account for their long life-spans.   They probably acquired their ability to "mate" with another being through biotics that was part of the Prothean uplift process to speed up evolution.   Other evidence that this was the case is the social 'stigma' the Asari have with mating with their own species.  

 

So, no.   They likely never had males.   Their offspring prior to the Protheans stepping in to speed up their evolutionary process were likely genetic copies of their parent.  As genetic photocopies, they never would have likely advanced to higher intelligence. 

 

As for the utopian society stuff...  I have never seen conformity to a single idea to be all that inspiring as a society.    In fact, its pretty dystopian in my opinion. 

[Han Shot First]

This is totally a bait thread. Even so, I'll play along.

 

I doubt Bioware ever gave much thought to the evolutionary history of any of its alien species (why would they?), but the Asari having evolved from a species that had two sexes and reproduced sexually is the only thing that would make sense, given their compatibility with males of other species.

 

They also would have evolved as land-based persistence hunters chasing down prey on open savanna, much like our ancestors did. Otherwise they wouldn't be built exactly like us. We tend to think of our own species as being physically weak compared to other apex predators like lions or brown bears, but humans are actually perfectly designed by nature to chase down game over long distances. We might lack claws or fangs or the muscle mass of some other predators, but very few animals can match humans for sheer physical endurance. The Asari sharing the same physical traits points to a similar evolutionary history and their ancestors filling a similar ecological niche.

 

Human Mammal, Human Hunter

 

The science of running

 

/nerdrant

[Gwydden]

This is totally a bait thread. Even so, I'll play along.

You know, if they're not going to hire an actual scientist, I hope they at least hire you to do their research. Unless you're an actual scientist? That'd be perfect 

 

But even with all that, I still think the only plausible explanation for how ridiculously similar they are is genetic tampering by an ancient civilization. Convergent evolution can explain a similar body structure, but nothing to this extent.

[StarcloudSWG]

Navasha: No. Evolution does not work that fast. It especially does not work that fast in a species that lives for hundreds of years. The Prothean Meddling was a mere fifty thousand years before the time of Mass Effect. At best, the Protheans are responsible for the Ardat-Yakshi syndrome and biotics that are useful to the asari without an amp. Protheans are not and *cannot* be responsible for parthenogenesis, the existence of natural biotics, or the state of the asari as an all-female race.

 

OP: Yes, the asari once had males. If you read up on the asari-related codex entries, particularly the planetary ones, you'll come across mention of a demon that looked like an asari but mating with them produced deformed babies.

 

However, since the unique version of asari parthenogenesis produces offspring that are *not* identical clones of the mother, the need for a second sex was redundant over time and provided no evolutionary advantage.

 

This was not a rapid happening either. We're talking several hundred thousand years of evolution.

[PlatonicWaffles]

...What?

[spockjedi]

I think this applies only to Thessia, where crime and poverty are very low. It would be like the "Switzerland" of the asari worlds. Still far from a perfect society.
In other asari worlds and colonies, there is nothing remotely comparable to an utopia: for example, Illium, where slavery and drugs are legal, and where mad people like Nassana Dantius and Eclipse operatives execute other people without remorse.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Among the asari we meet in the games are a slaver, a slaver's manipulative sister who turns out to be a corrupt corporate boss, an indoctrinated matriarch who got in over her head, two ruthless merc captains, one insane merc captain, a Spectre who blew up a building full of innocent people, a crime lord, and an isolationist xenophobe, not to mention that their government continued to conceal a vital prothean artifact through part of a galactic war.

 

As Kaidan would say, they have their share of jerks and saints just like all the other species. I don't think their society is a utopia at all.

 

EDIT: Initially listed "corrupt corporate boss" and "slaver's manipulative sister" separately, then remembered that those were actually the same person.

[ImperatorMortis]

Would be cool if a futuristic wonder like Illium was creates but with less murder.

[Catastrophy]

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