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[Chealec]

Yes. Micro-transactions are completely OPTIONAL. I should have the option to pay for something in game increase my enjoyment of it. 

 

The delusional entitlement of bsn here is nauseating, stop whining EA isnt forcing you to do anything.

 

Oh - crap, I hope you're not trolling because I kinda agree with this...

 

Back in ye olde days of gaming you'd buy the base game and then, after some months, an expansion would come out and you'd buy that. For stuff like extra hats (ahem), outfits, added bloodsplatter or units (Total War) then yeah, I've got no problem with small optional things being rolled out as microtransactions - expansion-lite if you like. As long as we still get decent full-fat DLC (expansions) as well

 

Yes there's a definite downside with online MP games (the free-to-play but pay-to-win model) but if ME:A is anything like ME:3 I don't have any serious issues around microtransactions.

[9TailsFox]

[Keitaro57]

No microtransactions.

 

Because with EA everything may happen : paywall, door open only with limited keys, chests needing special crystal and so on. They can say "you have what you need to open this" but in the same time only give not enough of the "keys" to open everything.

There is a lot of ways for a microtransaction model to ruin a SP game.

 

We were ripped of manual, cheat menus, full story... no need to have more restrain.

[von uber]

In a rush to establish your colony? Get the colony upgrade pack for only £6.99!
Shortcut the remnant artifacts collection with the Remnant Booster Pack for £3.99!
Unlock the Gypsum System early with the Explorer Pack, only £34.99!
For that customised PC feel, get the UI and Mouse and Keyboard Elite pro upgrade for only £245!
Want to get ahead of your mates? Get the Double XP Super Extreme Pro deal for only £12.99!
Running out of Thermal Clips even though you should theoretically be able to just wait for your weapon to cool down? Get the Extra Ammo Pack for only £2.99 per use!

I for one can't wait.

[Shechinah]

It micro transactions are implemented the same way they were in Mass Effect 3 then I have no problem with it since that micro transaction implementation never made me feel like it was necessary for me to unlock my weaponry and characters by paying actual money. I did that just fine with credits earned through missions.

[Kevinc62]

[AlanC9]

In a rush to establish your colony? Get the colony upgrade pack for only £6.99!
Shortcut the remnant artifacts collection with the Remnant Booster Pack for £3.99!
Unlock the Gypsum System early with the Explorer Pack, only £34.99!
For that customised PC feel, get the UI and Mouse and Keyboard Elite pro upgrade for only £245!
Want to get ahead of your mates? Get the Double XP Super Extreme Pro deal for only £12.99!
Running out of Thermal Clips even though you should theoretically be able to just wait for your weapon to cool down? Get the Extra Ammo Pack for only £2.99 per use!
I for one can't wait.

The only one of these that actually bothers me is the UI one. I suppose that's because it's the only one I'd want.

[7twozero]

Microtransactions are pretty terrible, I say BW needs to innovate, they could be the first to make the move to nano, pico, and femto transactions instead. Pay a fraction of a penny to have color code fffffa instead of ffffff for your left eyebrow color, that kind of thing.

[sjsharp2011]

Actually, the microtransactions for ME3MP and DAI have been really non-intrusive.  On the other end of the scale is Warframe; there's a game that keeps pushing you toward spending money.

 

 

Well if it stays in multiplayer then fair enough as long as they stay far away from single player with it as I don't want my story mode infected by these things. I'd rather stay away and spend my money elsewhere. I'd hate to see it happen to ME given it's my favourite series but favourite series or not I would stop buying it if that did happen.

[ZombiePopper]

The dinosaur behind the little tree is this;

It's not going to stop at little add-on's.

If you truly think that, you'll never have to pay for a character (looking at you Javik), or an ending (yeahhhhh) or Character creator and on and on and on...

You are delusional.
It's going to con't to escalate, period.
It's headed that way now...

[Cyonan]

The dinosaur behind the little tree is this;

It's not going to stop at little add-on's.

If you truly think that, you'll never have to pay for a character (looking at you Javik), or an ending (yeahhhhh) or Character creator and on and on and on...

You are delusional.
It's going to con't to escalate, period.
It's headed that way now...

 

and they'll do it because they can make money doing it. If people didn't buy into stuff like that, they wouldn't be doing it.

 

but instead we gamers have a bit of a reputation of having a huge fit on the internet, and then buying the game anyway.

[Chealec]

The dinosaur behind the little tree is this;

It's not going to stop at little add-on's.

If you truly think that, you'll never have to pay for a character (looking at you Javik), or an ending (yeahhhhh) or Character creator and on and on and on...

You are delusional.
It's going to con't to escalate, period.
It's headed that way now...

 

Javik is a bad example - he was part of the From Ashes DLC which was bundled into the N7 Collectors edition or available as a separate download. That's basically just a classic DLC pack... but would there be anything wrong with say, buying extra characters post-launch, for a game like Street Fighter 5? Before the general proliferation of the Internet into people's homes that wouldn't have been an option, either no new characters or having to buy a character expansion pack on disk months later would have been the only choices and then you couldn't pick and choose which characters you wanted it would be all or nothing.

 

You do always have the option not to buy into if you think it's a ripoff. I've not bought anything directly through Origin because their pricing system is an absolute joke. I've not bought an Ubisoft game since Anno 2070 because their always-on DRM system is draconian.

 

Now look at the companies that do it right, those companies that are closer to their fanbase, granted they're generally smaller companies; Colossal Order, CDPR, Valve (TF2 is free-to-play and funded by microtransactions now), inXile Entertainment, Obsidian (with Pillars of Eternity), Larian or Amplitude Studios.... and Mass Effect 3 would have been fine if it wasn't for having to connect to EA servers to validate your DLC every time (if your connection craps out you lose access to that content).

 

Hopefully the EA/Ubisofts of the world might learn something from the resurgence of indie studios lately, hopefully we'll have less SimCity, Diablo 3 or Batman Arkham Knight (on PC) style botched launches in the future, better thought-out DRM systems that don't punish people who bought the game (not as much of an issue on consoles since you're tied in to either Microsoft's or Sony's own DRM), worthwhile DLC and no pay-to-win microtransactions...

 

I believe that, in and of themselves, DLC packs and microtransactions are not bad things - it all comes down to implementation.

[Navasha]

Personally it depends on how they are handled.    If the microtransactions are just different clothes and skins, then I don't care.   Don't buy them anyway, but if others do then so be it.   If they lock actual game content behind microtransactions, then I mind enough that I might not buy another game from them ever again.   I hate them that much.    AC:Unity is a good example.    Last AC game I ever bought and will never touch another one again because of them locking stuff behind microtransactions and phone companion apps.  

[QuantumBiotic]

No thanks. I imagine there will be some sort of micro transaction in one form or another sadly. 

[RandomSyhn]

I'd rather not, I don't mind it when it's isolated to MP but I still don't see why I should have to pay for things when I've already bought a full length game. I'm willing to buy certain DLC but microtransactions especially in single player irritate me.

[Chealec]

I'd rather not, I don't mind it when it's isolated to MP but I still don't see why I should have to pay for things when I've already bought a full length game. I'm willing to buy certain DLC but microtransactions especially in single player irritate me.

 

You wouldn't pay a couple of quid for more casual clothing options for Shepard then?

 

I might.

[Killdren88]

This question is like asking do I want to eat undercooked meat.

[KaiserShep]

The dinosaur behind the little tree is this;

It's not going to stop at little add-on's.

If you truly think that, you'll never have to pay for a character (looking at you Javik), or an ending (yeahhhhh) or Character creator and on and on and on...

You are delusional.
It's going to con't to escalate, period.
It's headed that way now...

I'm pretty sure BioWare's past the DLC companion thing after Shale, Sebastian and Javik. Is it possible they'd do it again? Sure. Do I think they will? No, not really. I can't recall ever paying for an ending. Some here might argue that Trespasser is an example, but those people would be wrong. The Extended Cut is the only ending I can think of that they ever released after the game, and that was free. As for the character creator, I'd say the chances of that being a paid add-on is about the same as a snowball's in hell. 

[TormDK]

I have no problems with a hybrid solution of the systems we have for ME3 and DAIMP.

[Darvins]

and they'll do it because they can make money doing it. If people didn't buy into stuff like that, they wouldn't be doing it.

 

but instead we gamers have a bit of a reputation of having a huge fit on the internet, and then buying the game anyway.

What's the famous pic again, people on a steam board (or similar) dedicated to 'We will not buy this game' and half of them have their status as playing said game. To be fair it's more the old chestnut, the people who speak up are, more often, the people who are unhappy, the folks that couldn't care less don't say anything most of the time. Giving the impression Everyone hates X because the only people speaking are the ones who hate X. 

[Sanunes]

What's the famous pic again, people on a steam board (or similar) dedicated to 'We will not buy this game' and half of them have their status as playing said game. To be fair it's more the old chestnut, the people who speak up are, more often, the people who are unhappy, the folks that couldn't care less don't say anything most of the time. Giving the impression Everyone hates X because the only people speaking are the ones who hate X. 

 

I am not sure about the policy of hot linking images, so I just went and found it again.  It was people created Steam Groups to show they are going to boycott Call of Duty 2: Modern Warfare and a good number of them were playing the game.

 

A Google search of "Boycott Modern Warfare 2 fail" gives plenty of examples.

[Gileadan]

Before micro transactions we can probably look forward to another deluxe edition that's totally worth it.

 

Like the one for Star Wars Battlefront: 3 weapon cards immediately unlocked (instead through regular gameplay), 2 exclusive emotes. All this for just 10 $! Unlock Han Solo's blaster pistol NOW!

[o Ventus]

If it's just for cosmetics like armor or weapon skins, then I don't really care either way if they're there or not. If it doesn't affect gameplay or otherwise give a player a unique advantage over another player who doesn't pay (i.e. buying powerful weapons or armor), then I see no problem with microtransactions. Gun skins or armor skins or whatever don't hurt anybody.

[Kevinc62]

Before micro transactions we can probably look forward to another deluxe edition that's totally worth it.

 

Like the one for Star Wars Battlefront: 3 weapon cards immediately unlocked (instead through regular gameplay), 2 exclusive emotes. All this for just 10 $! Unlock Han Solo's blaster pistol NOW!

Someone's being cheking Angryjoe 

 

Gotta agree with him on this one.

[RandomSyhn]

You wouldn't pay a couple of quid for more casual clothing options for Shepard then?

 

I might.

I don't generally buy the aesthetic DLCs but it really comes down to how its managed. Say if they specifically withheld certain clothing or decoration options so they could sell them as microtransactions than definitely no, If it's something the design team decided to create after the fact I don't seem the harm in it. I prefer when they release those as DLC packs but honestly cosmetics don't bother me as microtransactions, I'm more directly opposed to pay to play especially in my single player campaign.