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#151
Lady Artifice

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Yes, I hope we will be able to buy in-game currency or powerful weapons with money, so I dont have to spend so much time grinding.

 

I also wouldn't mind paying EA to remove the garbage romance-arcs from my copy of the game

 

"I'll pay them to extract optional content from a single copy of the game." 

 

Quite possibly the most deeply wasteful purchase in history. 



#152
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What I mean is there's a divide between players who can afford microtransactions and players who can't.  Sometimes I play the occassional FPS like CoD (and I might get Battlefront).  But I don't like the game well enough to purchase map pack updates.  I've noticed in matchmaking players that can't afford new map updates being limited to the release content, while others who can afford post-release content, might NEVER see release content ever again.



#153
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No, because then there will be people who will re-upload something that people have already made and sell it under a different name for full price, or take assets used by another modder and claim it as their own.

 

Which is the reason why paid mods died, and is the reason it needs to stay dead.

 

Ye-es, that's what I meant by "bodged" - if the mods were digitally signed by either the developers or the distributors, and only signed mods were allowed to be sold for actual cash, this would be a manageable issue.

 

It's not quite as pie-in-the-sky as you might think, Egosoft did something similar with X3: Terran Conflict back in 2008. A lot of the content for that was created in tandem with the X-Tended mod team. Members of that team were signed-on to Egosoft for the development of the game and their work was digitally signed by the devs (meaning you didn't need to enable "cheat mode" to run it).

Granted that was one, very closed and controlled environment, but it works as a technical proof of concept.

 

The new Unreal game will have a lot of community created content built in and signed by the devs as well.



#154
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Not a fan of them. Maybe aesthetics but nothing of practical use. Gearbox made a boatload with Borderlands 2 on outfits but didn't charge for a single weapon or power up outside the cost of the game itself and its expansions so there is a precedent that's win win.

Then again Bungie swindled a bunch of folks , myself included, into buying a third of a game (Destiny) at full price, then buying the rest at a premium, and all their guns and power ups are "included" as well.

Just don't be jerks is all I can hope for. It's business, but I'm not interested in getting conned by a trusted dev again.

#155
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Also never going to happen, the minute it does there will be a massive riot on the hands of any developer who tries to block segments of the story.


It's time for that old adage;



Wait for it








Wait for it








Wait for it





"Never say never."


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#156
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Do you mean skins and weapons and the like? 

 

Try World of Tanks|Warplanes|Warships ... that seems to be getting dangerously close to the free-to-play, pay-to-win model.

 

https://na.wargaming.net/shop/

 

... yet it still has something like 45 million players for WoT alone.



#157
ZombiePopper

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Idk
I guess I'm weird,
But I've never been able to get into any mobile gaming.
I'm a GearHead (petro head for those across the pond :) )
So I tried car town streets for a while, but it just became an exercise in frustration.
Plus,
It seems like EVERYTIME I start-up an app, boom text or boom pm or boom call

#158
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You know, Bioware just giving out free guns, skins and multiplayer characters instead of having a bunch of mircotransactions would definitely make them awesome in my eyes.

 

Come on, Bioware. Don't you want to be awesome?



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Excellent point,
And admittedly there are those out there that think that way.

The only issue I see, is Dev's removing content from a game for the sole purpose of selling it separately= removing the meat patty from said Big Mac and charging extra for it.

 

The thing is they have been removing content from games to resell at a later date since before DLC, it is just that it was something they cut during production of the game because they needed to spend more time on other content.  Content has always been cut from games and then expanded upon and finished for expansion packs too.


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ZombiePopper

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The thing is they have been removing content from games to resell at a later date since before DLC, it is just that it was something they cut during production of the game because they needed to spend more time on other content. Content has always been cut from games and then expanded upon and finished for expansion packs too.


Agreed, and while I think a lot of it, as you pointed out, has do to with finishing content post-release (it's the norm),
The distinction is pulling content for no other reason than to sell it later.
That's where the ethics start to get shaky IMO.
But don't misunderstand,
I don't see the purchase price as an "all-inclusive pass" to all content.

#161
Sylvius the Mad

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I don't want have to deal with PC installation, DRM, PC requirements, upgrading every 6 months to a years.

Wait, you don't want to deal with PC DRM, but you're happy using consoles?  As a closed system, consoles basically are DRM.


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#162
Sylvius the Mad

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The distinction is pulling content for no other reason than to sell it later.

How would you ever be able to tell this was done?


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#163
ZombiePopper

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How would you ever be able to tell this was done?


In some cases it's more apparent than others. Otherwise, you probably couldn't unless you DM'ed all the files.

#164
Sylvius the Mad

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In some cases it's more apparent than others. Otherwise, you probably couldn't unless you DM'ed all the files.

I don't think we could ever really know.

 

And I don't know why we'd go to all the effort of finding out.



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What I mean is there's a divide between players who can afford microtransactions and players who can't.  Sometimes I play the occassional FPS like CoD (and I might get Battlefront).  But I don't like the game well enough to purchase map pack updates.  I've noticed in matchmaking players that can't afford new map updates being limited to the release content, while others who can afford post-release content, might NEVER see release content ever again.

 

That is a fair point.

 

Although I think the fact that players can afford it is what irks those who can't...you know? Like that sort of socio-economic status of the, that feeling of inferiority....

 

I am going all psychological right now, and I am super drunk at the moment. Perhaps it is best to ignore me...



#166
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So long as we're talking about prices, I read somewhere that Battlefront is going to be $120. Is that true? Bloody great news if it is.



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MrMrPendragon

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At first I thought this was a trick question/joke thread

 

But I guess you guys are serious LOL

 

Things like map packs are horrible. They basically divide the entire community - those who have them, and those who don't.



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So long as we're talking about prices, I read somewhere that Battlefront is going to be $120. Is that true? Bloody great news if it is.

 

$60 for the game, $50 for the DLC season pass maybe?

 

The real question is what do you get with it?



#169
MrMrPendragon

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Where I live, video games have gone up from 60 dollars, to 70, all the way to 80 dollars in 2 years. Thank you steadily declining Canadian dollar, you f*cking *sshole


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#170
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Where I live, video games have gone up from 60 dollars, to 70, all the way to 80 dollars in 2 years. Thank you steadily declining Canadian dollar, you f*cking *sshole

 

Its a $140 for the "Ultimate Edition" for the PC which is the base game and the season pass in Canada.


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I belive the ultimate edition has 2 emotes, the season pass and... it's all. There are a few other bonuses but it is only to unlock stuff earlier in game.

 

About the "stuff removed before sell", there is a good hint : if the download is surprisingly light, it is because it is only the key to unlock content on the disc.



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That's hilarious. $140?

 

Seriously, you have laugh at that.



#173
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What I mean is there's a divide between players who can afford microtransactions and players who can't.  Sometimes I play the occassional FPS like CoD (and I might get Battlefront).  But I don't like the game well enough to purchase map pack updates.  I've noticed in matchmaking players that can't afford new map updates being limited to the release content, while others who can afford post-release content, might NEVER see release content ever again.

Its not just about being able to afford something, if i wanted to buy stuff using microtransactions i could. Its about what is morally acceptable, when you ask people to buy a game which has a certain price (60 dollars in the US but almost 100 dollars in my country) and then craft specific content just for the purpose of hiding it behind a paywall that is morally bankrupt. When you buy a product you should get the full finished product.

 

DLC is additional content and should be limited to stuff created post launch, and also stories which are isolated and optional experiences and not stories which are used to set up the next game like bioware has done in the past.



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Its not just about being able to afford something, if i wanted to buy stuff using microtransactions i could. Its about what is morally acceptable, when you ask people to buy a game which has a certain price (60 dollars in the US but almost 100 dollars in my country) and then craft specific content just for the purpose of hiding it behind a paywall that is morally bankrupt. When you buy a product you should get the full finished product.

 

DLC is additional content and should be limited to stuff created post launch, and also stories which are isolated and optional experiences and not stories which are used to set up the next game like bioware has done in the past.

 

It is morally bankrupt.. but if you see the type of people who get those jobs, it's the same you'll see on Wall Street. Marketing and Business Grads. Can't expect much. They're sleazy.

 

I don't think developers themselves care about this stuff.



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At first I thought this was a trick question/joke thread

 

But I guess you guys are serious LOL

 

Things like map packs are horrible. They basically divide the entire community - those who have them, and those who don't.

 

Ye-es but that only really matters in MP games - and it's why all the MP expansions (e.g. anything that wasn't a "pack") for ME3 were free.