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[German Soldier]

No leave this crap to Dragon age Inquisition only.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Where I live, video games have gone up from 60 dollars, to 70, all the way to 80 dollars in 2 years. Thank you steadily declining Canadian dollar, you f*cking *sshole

It's a long overdue correction. Adjusted for inflation, the price of games has fallen massively over the past 30 years.

[Sanunes]

I belive the ultimate edition has 2 emotes, the season pass and... it's all. There are a few other bonuses but it is only to unlock stuff earlier in game.

 

About the "stuff removed before sell", there is a good hint : if the download is surprisingly light, it is because it is only the key to unlock content on the disc.

 

The ultimate edition doesn't have any bonus content, it is just buying the deluxe version and the season pass at the same time.  The bonus content such as the emotes are from the deluxe version and the season pass.

[Sanunes]

No leave this crap to Dragon age Inquisition only.

 

It was in Mass Effect 3 as well.

[LinksOcarina]

It's a long overdue correction. Adjusted for inflation, the price of games has fallen massively over the past 30 years.

 

Something no one wants either. Although it would probably solve a few problems if it happens...

[Guitar-Hero]

It's a long overdue correction. Adjusted for inflation, the price of games has fallen massively over the past 30 years.

In 99 mgs cost 600kr now most games cost 500 although some cost 550. Games are more expensive to develop and i wouldnt mind paying more for higher quality games. With that said i do mind the poison of pre-order culture and microtransactions, which doesn't  add anything to the quality of the games created but rather adds to the conception that business is more important than consumer trust and a high quality experience.

 

Look at the industry now where release then fix is a huge issue. 

[Sanunes]

It's a long overdue correction. Adjusted for inflation, the price of games has fallen massively over the past 30 years.

 

Right now the problem for me and Sexy Boy is that the Canadian Dollar is $0.76 per USD so our prices are going to be that much higher, now if EA does adjust the prices when the Canadian dollar starts to turn around I won't have a problem with it being higher right now for the prices are basically the same.  The problem will arise if the Canadian dollar rises and the price stays the same.

[Sanunes]

In 99 mgs cost 600kr now most games cost 500 although some cost 550. Games are more expensive to develop and i wouldnt mind paying more for higher quality games. With that said i do mind the poison of pre-order culture and microtransactions, which doesn't  add anything to the quality of the games created but rather adds to the conception that business is more important than consumer trust and a high quality experience.

 

Look at the industry now where release then fix is a huge issue. 

 

To me I am okay with microtransactions if I am getting something in return. Using Mass Effect 3 as an example I don't mind, instead of charging $15 for the multiplayer DLC they added microtransactions which is a system I am okay with.  Now change the system to be that I still pay $15 for multiplayer DLC and there are microtransactions will be something that greatly disappoints me, that or having insurance in the game.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

You should trust fan patches more than dev patches. After a few iterations they've had more man-hours in them. Bio's been known to break stuff in patches. Sometimes they fix them, sometimes they don't. They broke Ashley's Marksman ability in ME3 and never fixed it, for instance, though of course a PC player can get it fixed easily.

If you like controllers more than KB/M, whether that's an issue depends on what you're playing. DAI supported controllers right out of the box, for instance -- most current games do, I've heard. Some folks said DAI played better with a controller -- I'm the wrong guy to ask about that since I can't stand the things.

And that last sentence is just nonsense. The only PC players who upgrade that often are the guys who have to have the absolute best performance. If you were one of those guys, you wouldn't be putting up with a console's inferiority in the first place. And PC installation? I push a button on Origin, or Steam or whatever, and poof! There it is.

 

First off consoles are superior I have a lot less technical problems with them than with any PC I've ever own. 

Second consoles are better priced. Now before you say that tied old chestnut about getting a cheap PC here is the problem I did that once and that PC could barely start-up and I had to get a new one and that is one I use and it's so old that upgrading it is just about as expensive as getting a new one. My new Xbox One cost me $350 and since I can't find a half way decent PC that doesn't cost upwards to $600.

I put game the in the machine and it launches, No fuss, no mess. Also there NO PC exclusive games that I want to play that I can't play on a console. 

 

Also I can pretty much do everything I use my PC for on console. I hate the so-called "PC Master Race" because I'm the superior console player. DEAL WITH IT.    

[Cyonan]

First off consoles are superior I have a lot less technical problems with them than with any PC I've ever own. 

Second consoles are better priced. Now before you say that tied old chestnut about getting a cheap PC here is the problem I did that once and that PC could barely start-up and I had to get a new one and that is one I use and it's so old that upgrading it is just about as expensive as getting a new one. My new Xbox One cost me $350 and since I can't find a half way decent PC that doesn't cost upwards to $600.

I put game the in the machine and it launches, No fuss, no mess. Also there NO PC exclusive games that I want to play that I can't play on a console. 

 

Also I can pretty much do everything I use my PC for on console. I hate the so-called "PC Master Race" because I'm the superior console player. DEAL WITH IT.    

 

The funny thing is that the whole PC Master Race thing was originally a joke by a guy making fun of the insanely idiotic tendency for gamers to argue about which platform is "superior" when in reality they all have their pros and cons.

 

Although in this day you should be able to run a PC just fine with no issues. As long as you keep things updated, which you can automate, it is typically fine. I can't even remember the last game I had that gave me any fuss or mess.

 

Also while any decent gaming PC, even custom built which is recommended you do, will be a higher up front cost to a console the idea is that you make it up later in things like Steam sales. I rarely ever pay full price for a game these days, as even at launch Green Man Gaming often has Steam keys for 20-25% off.

[Chealec]

The funny thing is that the whole PC Master Race thing was originally a joke by a guy making fun of the insanely idiotic tendency for gamers to argue about which platform is "superior" when in reality they all have their pros and cons.

 

Except nowadays a console is just a hobbled PC tied to a specific DRM channel - complete with many of the inherent downsides of PC gaming such as having to update the OS and reboot the whole thing, with none of the upsides. The XBox even runs Windows... it's literally just a poor man's PC.

[Guitar-Hero]

Except nowadays a console is just a hobbled PC tied to a specific DRM channel - complete with many of the inherent downsides of PC gaming such as having to update the OS and reboot the whole thing, with none of the upsides. The XBox even runs Windows... it's literally just a poor man's PC.

Why not let people play what they want? Who gives a flying turd whats better, i have more fun console gamin' you enjoy pc. 

[Cyonan]

Except nowadays a console is just a hobbled PC tied to a specific DRM channel - complete with many of the inherent downsides of PC gaming such as having to update the OS and reboot the whole thing, with none of the upsides. The XBox even runs Windows... it's literally just a poor man's PC.

 

Yeah, I'm not even gonna try to defend whatever that thing is that Microsoft created =P

 

Although in general consoles are cheaper to buy than PCs. Anybody who thinks you can get a gaming PC for $400 that will last you as long as a console is just kidding themselves.

 

I also wouldn't call having to update the OS a very big downside of PC gaming.

[Chealec]

Why not let people play what they want? Who gives a flying turd whats better, i have more fun console gamin' you enjoy pc. 

 

Hush now, stop being reasonable - I'm fishing here!

[Sylvius the Mad]

Right now the problem for me and Sexy Boy is that the Canadian Dollar is $0.76 per USD so our prices are going to be that much higher, now if EA does adjust the prices when the Canadian dollar starts to turn around I won't have a problem with it being higher right now for the prices are basically the same. The problem will arise if the Canadian dollar rises and the price stays the same.

The opposite occurred a few years ago. Americans were up in arms about the standard orice rising from $50 to $60. But the Canadian price was already $60, and it stayed the same, because then it was the US dollar that was falling.

I'm saying that currency fluctuations (what you're talking about) are smaller factors than the long-term deflationary trend.

Also, prices are set at the level the market will bear. If Canadians are charged higher prices, it is because Canadians are willing to pay higher prices.

[Sylvius the Mad]

In 99 mgs cost 600kr now most games cost 500 although some cost 550.

You're using nominal values.

600kr in 1999 iss equivalent to 800kr in 2014. So the prices have fallen 35% in 15 years, using inflation-adjusted kroner.

[Canned Bullets]

No

[Hexoduen]

 

Microtransactions are too often detrimental to gameplay, so NO.

[Sartoz]

It's a long overdue correction. Adjusted for inflation, the price of games has fallen massively over the past 30 years.

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Oh, dear.

Mad, are you looking from the wrong end of the telescope again?

[Keitaro57]

When the games on console switched from the cartidge support to the CD support, they said we would get a massive discount... that never happened. When the games on console switched from the CD support to the demat support, they said we would get a massive discount... that never happened.

The first Gear of Wars is still at 30 bucks. Around the same price of games on my Game Gear but with no cartidge, no CD, no manual, no physical support at all : I paid the bandwitch and the DDR. Not feeling any lower price here.

[AlanC9]

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Oh, dear.
Mad, are you looking from the wrong end of the telescope again?

Are you saying his math's wrong? I don't see it.

[AlanC9]

When the games on console switched from the cartidge support to the CD support, they said we would get a massive discount... that never happened. When the games on console switched from the CD support to the demat support, they said we would get a massive discount... that never happened.

When did they -- whoever they are -- say that? Serious question; I don't follow console pricing.

The first Gear of Wars is still at 30 bucks. Around the same price of games on my Game Gear but with no cartidge, no CD, no manual, no physical support at all : I paid the bandwitch and the DDR. Not feeling any lower price here.

Again, inflation. $30 in 1990 dollars is over $54 in 2015 dollars.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Again, inflation. $30 in 1990 dollars is over $54 in 2015 dollars.

The difference between nominal dollars and real dollars seems to be beyond most people.

Perhaps I should recommend Crash Course Economics: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8dPuuaLjXtPNZwz5_o_5uirJ8gQXnhEO

[Keitaro57]

When did they -- whoever they are -- say that? Serious question; I don't follow console pricing.

Again, inflation. $30 in 1990 dollars is over $54 in 2015 dollars.

Hard to read but :

https://halshs.archi...012PEST0010.pdf

 

So we can read that Nintendo was sued because they maintained artificially high prices (they lose and must pay around 170 millions buck)

 

About the demat market, I hear "steam" at every corner but, no, console game prices are not on the same level. And I talk about Gear of Wars because for a game of the very beginning of the Xbox360 life, staying at 30 bucks is revealing of the business plan.

 

Oh, and I talk in euros. I'm french.

 

Last thing : Most of the time, the demat version of a game is at the very same price that the physical one. Sometimes, they are even more costly. But we don't have anything in hand and with the new rules they are even allowed to ripoff a full paided game of our hands if we buy the demat version.

[Fidite Nemini]

 

Last thing : Most of the time, the demat version of a game is at the very same price that the physical one. Sometimes, they are even more costly. But we don't have anything in hand and with the new rules they are even allowed to ripoff a full paided game of our hands if we buy the demat version.

 

That is in no small part due to BS taxing (which in itself is in no small part due to copyright lobbyism, those guys REALLY hate the digital age for some strange reason). I know several european nations put massive taxes specifically on digital goods. In some convoluted situations, getting the digital version of the game from a local distributor can even be more expensive than importing the physical copy from overseas.