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#26
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My best guess is that Corypheus could cure Felix, but didn't because Alexius was unsuccessful in regards to dealing with the Inquisitor. As he says when you meet him again "I knew you would come."

 

Corypheus must have known this and not held up his end of the bargain.


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Do we know how she was cured of the taint? Was it by Maric's dragon blood or by the Architect? 

 

Also, I seem to recall that the cure was explicitly stated in The Calling to be due to the Architect`s intervention.  I've loaned out my own copy, though, so I can't confirm.   Does anyone with a copy handy want to check...?

 

I'm not sure how the idea got started that Alistair's dragon-blooded/elf-blooded/mage-blooded/blue-blooded/tainted My-First-Chemistry-Set of a circulatory system could cure anything, but personally I'd be afraid even to be near him.  Pretty soon, I'm sure, we'll find out he was part nug, part griffin, and part Orlesian cheese wheel :P

 

EDIT: Forgot about the significant amounts of lyrium, and in some playthroughs large amounts of alcohol.  I'm amazed his bloodstream has any room left for blood.


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Also, I seem to recall that the cure was explicitly stated in The Calling to be due to the Architect`s intervention.  I've loaned out my own copy, though, so I can't confirm.   Does anyone with a copy handy want to check...?.

My recollection was that it was something to do with the amulets and the accelerated taint and the doings of the Architect, but that it was all fairly vague and not really spelt out in detail; it was all sort of "something, something, taint, something, something, Architect, something, something, amulets, something, something, cure".

Maybe someone who uses that newfangled social media can "tweet" David Gaider and ask him if it was the Architects secret tech or Maric's magic willy that cured Fiona.
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Yeah, I don't know why people keep insisting that Maric magically cured Fiona with his healing penis.

It was the Architect's amulet. It was probably a side effect he didn't foresee of the magic he used to accelerate the taint.

 

I've thrown around the statement that Maric cured Fiona with his magic penis, (Maric's Magic Penis™) but I've never said that in reference to the taint; it's always been  in reference towards her trauma regarding the sexual abuse she endured as a child.

 

Frankly I consider my interpretation to be the more impressive(ly horrible) one.



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The question I have is whatever happened to those amulets and the magic dagger? Were they confiscated by the Wardens at Weisshaupt? Wouldn't they be useful in searching for a cure to the Calling and information on the nature of the Blight?

 

If the Architect did clean Fiona's taint (yeah I went there), maybe he or his awakened disciples are working with the Weisshaupt leadership, and that is the cause of the upcoming Grey Warden civil war.



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I'm not sure how the idea got started that Alistair's dragon-blooded/elf-blooded/mage-blooded/blue-blooded/tainted My-First-Chemistry-Set of a circulatory system could cure anything

 

Funny thing is, it started as a joke. Literally started out as a joke, on the same level of "lol Morrigan is Maric's daughter" absurd humor. For years people would joke about that on threads about the book, and then it started spreading with people who hadn't actually read it and took the joke seriously, and here we are now, with the most absurd crackpot theory to come out of discussions being the one taken as "canon," while the book rather gives us a different the answer, heh.

 

tbh I wouldn't be surprised if at this point they just retconned it as being Maric's magical kira-kira dragon Sexual Healing after all, just because fandom wants it so. Wouldn't be the first time they canonized something just because it was pointless to argue against fandom consensus.


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Hehe, "cured taint"...
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Moving on..


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YOU MUST MASTER YOUR TAINT.



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She learned how to wipe correctly.



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So if it was the Architect, why was Utha not cured? Did she not have an amulet? 



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Do we know how she was cured of the taint? Was it by Maric's dragon blood or by the Architect? 

 

We don't know officially, all we've gotten was "it happened somehow".

 

Architect.

If you doubt his ability to do this, I'll remind he is one of the original tainted magisters.

 

You would think he wouldn't need Grey Warden blood in order to "cure" the darkspawn then. You would also think he would have cured himself by now, not to mention Utha.

 

She's such a horrible character even the taint didn't want her. -.-

 

Lol.

 

Not that Maric's blood couldn't be what cured Fiona's taint, but again: his magical sperm did not cure Rowan, and did not make Alistair immune. So if his blood is the key element, then Fiona got an exceptionally lucky oneshot that doesn't work for anyone but her. It's far more likely, then, that it was either the Architect himself or the whole thing with the amulet.

 

It was never officially stated she dies of the taint, Maric simply suspected that the taint is what caused her wasting disease. Doesn't mean that was the case however.

 

The wasting disease that killed Rowan being the taint is one of many theories out there - they were in the Deep Roads for a while, in close contact with darkspawn and the taint, and Rowan had never shown anything but kicking good health prior to suddenly having a wasting illness that even healing magic couldn't cure. (she was the people's beloved Queen, no? they would've put everything into saving her, and there's only one thing we know that even the most powerful magic can't heal)

 

Fan theories are not considered to be fact last I checked. In fact instead of theory it would be more accurate to call them hypotheses, as theories are something that has been tested and are usually considered to be fact.



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So if it was the Architect, why was Utha not cured? Did she not have an amulet?


The Architect accelerated her taint to transform her into his patented blend of darkspawn/ghoul (she didn't die of the taint, could walk freely among the darkspawn but wasn't insane nor did she hear the Calling). She did have an amulet but I guess when she took it off she was already transformed so it didn't do anything.

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My best guess is that Corypheus could cure Felix, but didn't because Alexius was unsuccessful in regards to dealing with the Inquisitor. As he says when you meet him again "I knew you would come."

 

Corypheus must have known this and not held up his end of the bargain.

 

Or perhaps Corypheus screwed Alexius over by being a literal genie? I could imagine him playing that card;

 

"I said I would prevent your son from dying from the taint. I never said I would cure him."

 

After all, we've seen that exposure to the taint either leads to death or ghoulification, the former being his fate in the revised timeline and the latter being his fate in the Dark Future. The only answer I can think of that explains how he died of it in the revised timeline but survived in the alternate one, is that Alexius or Corypheus did something to keep him alive and survive the transition into a ghoul.

 

Although I suppose that the other explanation is that Felix was slowly succumbing to ghoulification and committed suicide before that could happen, which the letter to Dorian either left out or he decided to omit. Admittedly, that would make Felix's fate far more depressing than it already is, though.


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You said "taint"

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Fan theories are not considered to be fact last I checked.

 

If you bothered checking the rest of the thread too, you'd see I'd already acknowledged that a few posts later. =]



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This reminds me of the HoF's mission.

S/He calls it "curing the Calling" but it basically means a way for the Grey Wardens to retire when they feel they've done enough.

Some in the Order would be tempted to take the cure since they were conscripted, while others might feel offended by the very idea.

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The Architect accelerated her taint to transform her into his patented blend of darkspawn/ghoul (she didn't die of the taint, could walk freely among the darkspawn but wasn't insane nor did she hear the Calling). She did have an amulet but I guess when she took it off she was already transformed so it didn't do anything.

 

So is the consensus that Fiona had the amulet on + Architect speeding up the taint? While Utha took her amulet off?



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The case of Felix Alexius is interesting for comparison.  Even with the most powerful magic of the Imperium at the command of his family, he was still getting worse.  Magic had bought him months - as it buys the Dalish warden days in Origins - but the was running out of time.  Erimond says that Corypheus controls the Blight, but it was clear Felix was worse in the future.  Was Corypheus withholding the cure until Gereon Alexius solved the problem of time magic?  Or was Corypheus powerless to cure Felix, only able to slow his deterioration further?

Corypheus could probably cure him, but  he probably didn't because he was majorly pissed off at Alexius for failing to erease the Inquisitor from time first and then for being unable to close the breach via time-travel. I think a diary from Alexius even mentions that Corypheus will probably kill him soon because "You have failed me"


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Elf and great dragon blood? I don't know at this point.



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Dragon's are resistant to the Tait and not immune. The Joining ritual is taking in magically enhanced taint and that's why Alistair ended up getting it.

 

I originally thought it was due to fetus-alistair absorbing his mother's taint that cured her, but that doesn't explain why she ended up becoming immune to the Taint altogether. She can no longer get it via the Joining



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Dragon's are resistant to the Tait and not immune. The Joining ritual is taking in magically enhanced taint and that's why Alistair ended up getting it.

 

I originally thought it was due to fetus-alistair absorbing his mother's taint that cured her, but that doesn't explain why she ended up becoming immune to the Taint altogether. She can no longer get it via the Joining

 

There are a few other problems with that as well.  Then he would presumably have to have become infected himself, or else an unborn child is purged of the taint before birth (which seems like given how the OGB works).  

 

If he became infected, then with "30 years tops" he would be dead by DAI.  If he was cured, then pregnancy would be a cure for mother and child, and the Wardens would surely have figured that out over that over a thousand years, and women would routinely cure themselves of the joining through pregnancy.

 

It seems almost certain it was the Architect's meddling.  And if there's one thing The Calling and Awakening have taught us, it's the Architect doesn't know what he's doing, especially when he thinks he knows what he's doing.  All his plans end in unintentional disaster and cataclysm.  So likely he would not know how to do that a second time.

 

What I wonder is, that if someone learns how to cure the blight - either a Warden like the HoF or the Architect again - what would happen if you applied it to a darkspawn itself...?  Are they made of blight and unable to survive without it, or would they become some new kind of creature.