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Hawke would have been there because 1) you caused the mage-templar war and 2) Cassandra dragged your ass there, and you had exactly 0 choice in it. 

 

And then Hawke gets the Anchor, and becomes Inquisitor,. That's the plot. 

 

Hawke didn't cause the war. Anders did. So by this logic, Anders should be the Inquisitor, not the person who stood 100 foot away who had no idea what he was doing.

 

Now sure, you could write that Cassandra dragged Hawke there and she got the Anchor. Nothing illogical that couldn't happen in that. But it's not personal connection, or a reason why that should be the plot. It makes equal sense for her to drag the Warden there.


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What's so different? He's basically an attempt to contradict previous Qunari.. to do something different than Sten and the Arishok. And I'm just saying it's trying too hard. It offers little to new players. He's main use is just to lighten the mood of the game. He lives out his "Id" instead.

 

I don't know if he's being real about it though. It's like he watched some EXTREME Mountain Dew commercial, and thought that was a good cover to ingratiate himself.

 

Honestly, it sounds like you just hated the character, so you're making up a bunch of stuff to justify it, as nothing you're saying sounds anything like the character in the game. He is never treated like a joke, he isn't any more light hearted than the other characters (his plot can involve you murdering all his friends, and he possibly turns on you in the end, how exactly is that light hearted???), his character is different to Sten/Aristok for a specific reason that is shown in game (he's a spy, and he specifically acts like that to put people off guard and get close to them, not to mention people don't act the same as every other member of their race). 


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Honestly, it sounds like you just hated the character, so you're making up a bunch of stuff to justify it, as nothing you're saying sounds anything like the character in the game. He is never treated like a joke, he isn't any more light hearted than the other characters (his plot can involve you murdering all his friends, and he possibly turns on you in the end, how exactly is that light hearted???), his character is different to Sten/Aristok for a specific reason that is shown in game (he's a spy, and he specifically acts like that to put people off guard and get close to them, not to mention people don't act the same as every other member of their race). 

 

No ****? I hate him?? Of course, I do.

 

I only mention the Sten/Arishok difference for the sake of new players. If it's supposed to inform them of the Qunari, it fails.

 

As for me, that doesn't matter as much. I just dislike when these writers try hard to be funny and go against the grain. And the character itself is for weak, unsocial people who don't actually know anyone like this. They're starving for a wild extrovert in their lives, who live out their "Id". But they play games to get their fill. I already know enough of it. I'm here to wind down instead and.. to be boring and serious. ;)



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Do any of you actually believe we WILL play as the Inquisitor again. Not just 'do you want to?' but do you really think we will?


I really don't know. I hope so. I'm cautiously optimistic.

I believe that the chances of it are greater with Weekes as lead writer. His previous work is largely character driven, and I hope that, as a relative newcome to the series, he will be less wedded to the “DA is all about the world, not the characters!” mindset. (I've always assumed that that was a Gaider-driven thing, Thedas being his baby and all.)

That Trespasser expressly dangled the possibility of redemption also gives me hope. I would really, really hope that they recognize a juicy hook when they've set one: we got to make a promise, and now we get to follow it up. And that requires the Inquisitor. I'm really not sure how anyone else would be able to exert any personal influence on Solas. He's not exactly in a position to make new friends right now.

If DA4 was a deep-cover infiltration game in which you work your way up through the ranks of Solas' organization to become his trusted right hand, while subtly working to undermine his plans and resolve, yeah, I would play the **** out of that, but it would require us to play an elf protagonist. I doubt that they would force that, considering the “race of the Inq” numbers they've released.

I'm also doubtful that they'll go the way of multiple protagonists. The extra VA wouldn't come cheap, and I imagine they'd also need to write/voice two separate sets of companions, which would probably mean less content with each individual. Short of having many years and an infinite budget, I'm afraid that you'd end up with two weak halves and I'd rather see a solid whole.

But my optimism is severely curtailed by the Inq's statement that they'll need to find people that Solas doesn't know. That's hard to ignore. The best spin I could put on it is that the Inq will go to Tevinter but acquire a new set of companions. And that doesn't seem too outlandish – the Inq is known in Tevinter, and getting involved in the Vint/Qunari conflict would be just the sort of thing Solas would expect. The perfect cover story. Yet I sense that I'm engaging in wishful thinking, here.

I believe that the Inquisitor will have a role in DA4. And I certainly hope that that role isn't “cameo NPC” or “person who walks on in the last scene to deliver a rousing speech.”
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I have to say, I just played Trespasser myself and, my friends: YES. massive YES

 

Thinking about it, my mouth waters at the idea, because... 

 

 

- There is the emotional connection with Solas, and wether you romanced him, befriended him or hated him, the villain argumental arch would be way more emotional and deep. I never felt Corypheus to be too menacing, in fact, it was a terrible villain, so flat and with the hole "I'm the classic bad guy" thing. Solas would be a different matter because of the connection you chose to have with him. 

 

- Character growth. It was mentioned in the first post, but it's so true. The Inquisitor is no longer Inquisitor. Probably the Inquisitor had too much corruption on the order and it had to be disbanded, or he/she disbanded it  in the first place since the Exalted Council. Either way, you would start anew and from 0. Without an arm and the extensive support of the organization, she/he would be a wanderer, kind of like a "Strider", roaming Tevinter. Which would be amazing. 

 

- The arm removal: the arm removal would open up a very interesting combat system. Since the character have to learn to fight again given the circumstances, wouldn't be interesting to have different solutions depending on the class? For example, and as other people said in this post, kind of a mechanic arm for rogues, with different tricks, a spiritual or lyrium based arm for mages, or a full metal blade arm for warriors. 

 

- And in the end if they chose to have the Inquisitor as a cameo, it would be a headache given all the different races and voice actors and background. Also, I would like to see more direct consequences for my actions in Inquisition, since many of the choices I made didn't matter. 

 

- And if Bioware also wants to start anew and lure new players into the saga? Why not make the Inquisitor loose his/her memories, kind of an amnesia, and make the quest of Solas even more interesting by also trying to remember key fragments of what exactly happened? It's a silly idea, but hey, could work. 

 

 

Anyway, the whole point is that it would be so cool. I just can't bring myself to start anew with a character I have 0 connection with. I just can't. Please Bioware, we beg you  :ph34r:


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Hawke didn't cause the war. Anders did. So by this logic, Anders should be the Inquisitor, not the person who stood 100 foot away who had no idea what he was doing.

 

Now sure, you could write that Cassandra dragged Hawke there and she got the Anchor. Nothing illogical that couldn't happen in that. But it's not personal connection, or a reason why that should be the plot. It makes equal sense for her to drag the Warden there.

 

But remember, Cassandra thought Hawke did it. That was the Unusual Suspects-style idea behind DA2, where she slowly unravels the truth that it was Anders, and Hawke just ended up getting caught in the middle of all that insanity. But because of what you did - one side thinks you're a war criminal, the other thinks you're a hero, you're the best bet for the Chantry to get them to stop tearing itself apart. That places Hawke at the Conclave, and it's what gives you access to the inner sanctum where Divine Justinia is waiting (while Corypheus bursts in). 

 

All of this is to say that, to me, there's nothing distinctive about the Inquisitor's history with Solas vs. the narrative path that Hawke was on before just being put on a bus in DAI. 



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But remember, Cassandra thought Hawke did it. That was the Unusual Suspects-style idea behind DA2, where she slowly unravels the truth that it was Anders, and Hawke just ended up getting caught in the middle of all that insanity. But because of what you did - one side thinks you're a war criminal, the other thinks you're a hero, you're the best bet for the Chantry to get them to stop tearing itself apart. That places Hawke at the Conclave, and it's what gives you access to the inner sanctum where Divine Justinia is waiting (while Corypheus bursts in). 

 

All of this is to say that, to me, there's nothing distinctive about the Inquisitor's history with Solas vs. the narrative path that Hawke was on before just being put on a bus in DAI. 

 

You're arguing there is a logical plot reason Hawke could have been the protagonist in DA:I. I agree with you. There's no reason they couldn't have gone with that plot. You could force Hawke into the conclave for a bunch of logical reasons and then assume they care because the mark is killing them. That works.

 

However, that's not even remotely the same as spending an entire game building up a relationship between the protagonist and the villain, which ends with the protagonist swearing they are going to kill/save the guy. You don't dedicate 150 hours giving the protagonist motivation to stop the villain, then replace them.

 

Hawke didn't end her game swearing to stop the mage/templar war. The Inquisitor did end her game swearing she was going to stop Solas.


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You're arguing there is a logical plot reason Hawke could have been the protagonist in DA:I. I agree with you. There's no reason they couldn't have gone with that plot. You could force Hawke into the conclave for a bunch of logical reasons and then assume they care because the mark is killing them. That works.

However, that's not even remotely the same as spending an entire game building up a relationship between the protagonist and the villain, which ends with the protagonist swearing they are going to kill/save the guy. You don't dedicate 150 hours giving the protagonist motivation to stop the villain, then replace them.

Hawke didn't end her game swearing to stop the mage/templar war. The Inquisitor did end her game swearing she was going to stop Solas.


I understand where you're coming from - I just don't see the relationship with Solas as the villain having that much build up outside of Trespasser. I think it's more a product of that teaser at the end of DAI.

I disagree with the characterisation of the relationship. Let's use DAO as an analogy. Morrigan was a companion. We spent a lot of time with her. Very little - in fact almost none - of that time was dedicated to the DR plot. It came up at the end. There was an entire DLC about finding Morrigan. Finding her could have been your avowed goal since the end of DAO.

Even so, the Warden - even as the father of Kieran - had no role in the resolution of the plot. The Warden will likely have no role in a future Morrigan plot.

And yet that relationship had a lot of build up. I don't see the relationship with Solas as being a sufficient grounds to even say the Inquisitor should be a protagonist. In this regard you're a lot like Captain Anderson in relation to Saren. Before Eden Prime, you had the back story. Yet Shepard usurped that role. We could easily imagine a game with Anderson as the protagonist.

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I'd be okay with this..

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But a quest with husband would be appreciated."
I.. totally agree with this :D. Even if the game ends with us giving Solas the flower power of peace to end the conflict and his mad plans, .. I dont think I'll mind (so long as the protag has an option to still get a walk off the sunset happy) I think I'd still be cool with it :D

 

Bwahaha Don't worry if the Inquisitor got a survive ending, Bioware can always troll us by killing her/his LI in the special quest we dream of for DA4 ♥.
Would be exalted marches on the BSN though.
 

 

Yes. For the reasons others have posted.

 

I'm a big fan of Weekes' work, and his general attitude towards things. I find it very hard to believe the first thing he would write after taking over Dragon Age is "your character loses a limb, is now a helpless invalid who needs to be replaced".  

 

Exaclty. After all those avant-garde ideas bioware showed us in their story, it would be sad they thinks of a limb only as a disability more than a  possibility to be a specific characteristic of a protagonist, which in many ways can be a strength.

As for Bull, he wasn't Sten, or the Arishok because his story and his rank as "spy" made his character and story developement a lot more... vicious if you take that road by sacrificing the chargers. Anyway before that special decision you don't really know when he decided to being his true self to you or if it's ben hassrath game. Or if he's just lost in between

As for a romanced Bull,


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I was impressed on how they handle those slides, they didn't fear to give your decisions extremes consequences. I hope to see more of this in game.
So yeah, I just had to say it I guess.


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I understand where you're coming from - I just don't see the relationship with Solas as the villain having that much build up outside of Trespasser. I think it's more a product of that teaser at the end of DAI.

I disagree with the characterisation of the relationship. Let's use DAO as an analogy. Morrigan was a companion. We spent a lot of time with her. Very little - in fact almost none - of that time was dedicated to the DR plot. It came up at the end. There was an entire DLC about finding Morrigan. Finding her could have been your avowed goal since the end of DAO.

Even so, the Warden - even as the father of Kieran - had no role in the resolution of the plot. The Warden will likely have no role in a future Morrigan plot.

And yet that relationship had a lot of build up. I don't see the relationship with Solas as being a sufficient grounds to even say the Inquisitor should be a protagonist. In this regard you're a lot like Captain Anderson in relation to Saren. Before Eden Prime, you had the back story. Yet Shepard usurped that role. We could easily imagine a game with Anderson as the protagonist.

 

Except all those things with Morrigan are completely optional. She doesn't even have to be present in the game, you can ask her to leave. Whilst Solas deceives you no matter who you are, he takes your arm no matter who you are, you swear to stop him no matter who you are. These aren't optional. There was no third choice at the end of the game to say "Solas, I actually don't care about your plot to destroy the world, I'm just gonna ignore it". You do have the option to ignore Morrigan.

 

Now, if you romanced Morrigan, and she has some major plot in DA4 where it makes sense for the Warden to have a reason to interfere, I do think he should. Even though that is a very small minority of players. Bioware could have set Trespasser up in a very similar way with only romanced Lavellan's having content, but they didn't. They made sure every Inquisitor had the same ending swearing to stop Solas. Which means they needed it to be that way for the next game.

 

Anderson isn't remotely the same situation, because we didn't play through that relationship for 150 hours before getting discarded. If there was a Mass Effect 0 where you played as "Anderson" and spent the entire game getting to know Saren as him, only to be betrayed and swear to take Saren down as him, then yes, Anderson should be the protagonist in that situation. But not because they wrote some side plot in a novel about the two of them after the fact.


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I understand where you're coming from - I just don't see the relationship with Solas as the villain having that much build up outside of Trespasser. I think it's more a product of that teaser at the end of DAI.

I disagree with the characterisation of the relationship. Let's use DAO as an analogy. Morrigan was a companion. We spent a lot of time with her. Very little - in fact almost none - of that time was dedicated to the DR plot. It came up at the end. There was an entire DLC about finding Morrigan. Finding her could have been your avowed goal since the end of DAO.

Even so, the Warden - even as the father of Kieran - had no role in the resolution of the plot. The Warden will likely have no role in a future Morrigan plot.

And yet that relationship had a lot of build up. I don't see the relationship with Solas as being a sufficient grounds to even say the Inquisitor should be a protagonist. In this regard you're a lot like Captain Anderson in relation to Saren. Before Eden Prime, you had the back story. Yet Shepard usurped that role. We could easily imagine a game with Anderson as the protagonist.

You are entitled to this opinion of course, but you should understand why people do want their Inquisitor to be the one to deal with Solas.  They do perceive some sort of strong connection with him (no matter what that may be).  :D

 

Though I will argue there is a significant difference between Morrigan and Solas in regards to the stories they play a role in.  If you ignore both after game DLCs ("Witch Hunt" fo DA:O and "Trespasser" for DA:I) then outside of OGB decision Morrigan is almost completely optional in DA:O, both in terms of whats happening in the story and as a relationship.  I loved Morrigan, but most of her intrinsic connection with DA:O comes from Flemeth and not her.  If you removed her completely and  had Flemeth compensate for the loss with a slightly larger role all you would lose to the overall story is a bit of Snark and a single Companion.  

 

Also in DA:O "Witch Hunt" if you romanced her you can totally go off with her in the end (that seems pretty conclusive) even if responsibility dragged them apart later on.

 

A strong personal relationship with Solas may indeed be "mostly" optional (either Friend or Enemy) in DA:I, but Solas' connection to the story gives him far more connection the the Inquisitor than Morrigan ever did for the story of DA:O.  Solas is responsible for Cory having the orb, is partially responsible for the destruction at the Conclave, the Breach being created, the Inquisitor surviving the effects of the Anchor, helping teach the Inquisitor what the Anchor can do, being the Fade expert for the Inquisition, and (finally) assuring the Inquisition survived the battle of Haven by leading them to Skyhold. He may not be responsible for the Inquisition's creation, but he certainly helped to create a need for its existence and assuring its survival.

 

If you add "Trespasser" to the mix, then he once again saves the Inquisitor's life by removing the arm (how your Quizzy reacted to this is entirely up to you) and simultaneously makes the Inquisitor aware of just how Important he was in the "Inquisitor's" own creation (this is the most important part of Trespasser IMO).  His admitting to wanting to still bring down the Veil and the Quizzie's declaration to pursue him is just extra fuel on the fire by that point.  The Inquisition was created to "Bring those responsible for the Breach to Justice" after all, at bare minimum it seems you have one more person to go if that is the case (no matter your decision on disbanding or retaining the Inquisition itself).


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I think playing as the inquisitor again in a personal battle against Solas, going undercover (using a decoy to pretend to be the inquisitor maybe) and especially having to deal with the loss of an arm could make for a fantastic story. Unfortunately I don't have enough faith in BioWare anymore to think they'll actually do it. I think BioWare carelessly made the inquisitor's arm disappear without fanfare or comment because they believe "now the inquisitor is an invalid and no one will ask to play them again like they do for the HoF or Hawke!" I think they intend to shoehorn the inquisitor in as an NPC cameo, probably sitting in a wheelchair with a blanket over their lap, staring helplessly out the window all day to give the new hero (probably human-only) a pep talk about how evil Solas is or to give the new hero a quest. Then we will get another "epic" adventure about some random (level one, unskilled) person from Tevinter defeating the generic evil wizard bent on saving the world (Solas). Or maybe Solas will be defeated by inquisition agents offscreen before the game starts, the same way the mage/templar "war" was handled and then the rest of the game will be about the random Tevinter peasant killing some other random ancient evil that Solas unleashed or another generic evil wizard that stepped in to start killing the world when Solas died on twitter. Whatever.

This made me laugh and sigh wistfully at the same time!

Also, to those saying that things will change now that Weekes is lead writer...the LR is not an all powerful role in Bio. It's a lead role within a team of writers. Even if he personally wanted Inky back, he doesn't have final say, and his bosses won't give him carte blanche in his work. Bio has publicly stated multiple times now that there will be new PCs each game. That wasn't a Gaider decision, that was a Bio decision. They're not going to tell us that now that there's a new lead writer, all previous rules are out the window. The new lead writer will have to follow the format of the series, not their personal wishes.
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I think playing as the inquisitor again in a personal battle against Solas, going undercover (using a decoy to pretend to be the inquisitor maybe) and especially having to deal with the loss of an arm could make for a fantastic story. Unfortunately I don't have enough faith in BioWare anymore to think they'll actually do it. I think BioWare carelessly made the inquisitor's arm disappear without fanfare or comment because they believe "now the inquisitor is an invalid and no one will ask to play them again like they do for the HoF or Hawke!"  I think they intend to shoehorn the inquisitor in as an NPC cameo, probably sitting in a wheelchair with a blanket over their lap, staring helplessly out the window all day to give the new hero (probably human-only) a pep talk about how evil Solas is or to give the new hero a quest. Then we will get another "epic" adventure about some random (level one, unskilled) person from Tevinter defeating the generic evil wizard bent on saving the world (Solas). Or maybe Solas will be defeated by inquisition agents offscreen before the game starts, the same way the mage/templar "war" was handled and then the rest of the game will be about the random Tevinter peasant killing some other random ancient evil that Solas unleashed or another generic evil wizard that stepped in to start killing the world when Solas died on twitter. Whatever.

 

lol. Oh my gosh, that's so despressing because it's just the kind of thing that BioWare would do these days, i.e. focus on making the new game as accessible as possible for a brand new audience of casuals instead of taking the story down its logical, and most interesting, course.


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I think playing as the inquisitor again in a personal battle against Solas, going undercover (using a decoy to pretend to be the inquisitor maybe) and especially having to deal with the loss of an arm could make for a fantastic story. Unfortunately I don't have enough faith in BioWare anymore to think they'll actually do it. I think BioWare carelessly made the inquisitor's arm disappear without fanfare or comment because they believe "now the inquisitor is an invalid and no one will ask to play them again like they do for the HoF or Hawke!"  I think they intend to shoehorn the inquisitor in as an NPC cameo, probably sitting in a wheelchair with a blanket over their lap, staring helplessly out the window all day to give the new hero (probably human-only) a pep talk about how evil Solas is or to give the new hero a quest. Then we will get another "epic" adventure about some random (level one, unskilled) person from Tevinter defeating the generic evil wizard bent on saving the world (Solas). Or maybe Solas will be defeated by inquisition agents offscreen before the game starts, the same way the mage/templar "war" was handled and then the rest of the game will be about the random Tevinter peasant killing some other random ancient evil that Solas unleashed or another generic evil wizard that stepped in to start killing the world when Solas died on twitter. Whatever.

 

Also, agreed. I hope Bioware sees the narrative potencial of using the Inquisitor again, because at least for me, Trespasser proved to be a rollercoaster of emotions and character building, that, man, just thinking of another game focused on that, phewwww, too tempting. 


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This made me laugh and sigh wistfully at the same time!

Also, to those saying that things will change now that Weekes is lead writer...the LR is not an all powerful role in Bio. It's a lead role within a team of writers. Even if he personally wanted Inky back, he doesn't have final say, and his bosses won't give him carte blanche in his work. Bio has publicly stated multiple times now that there will be new PCs each game. That wasn't a Gaider decision, that was a Bio decision. They're not going to tell us that now that there's a new lead writer, all previous rules are out the window. The new lead writer will have to follow the format of the series, not their personal wishes.

 

That's very true. However going in with the "Thedas is the character idea" is recently i read them say (or one of them say) that DA is about "chapters", which we now know DAI's chapter was split in two. It's not completely illogical to hope that we may see the Inquisitor back, as their chapter is potentially going to be continued in the next game. It may be a group decision to have the Inquisitor finish the chapter that was first set out for them. Right now the only people who have any idea where the series is going is the team, but i genuinely believe it could go either way. (With that being said he does say it's the end of the Inquisitions chapter of the DA world) It does seem like they want to keep up the old formula, which obviously wouldn't change just because of a new writer.

 

I still hold out hope, though, because the bad guy being unrelated to the protagonist is one of the biggest complaints they are getting after Inquisition. It's clearly not something fans are receiving well and is one of the only thing both sides of this arguments seem to find middle ground on. If they want the "new PC, new friends, new story" path to work, they need to stop dragging in old story lines. I don't know about you guys, but i would buy the next game even if it had nothing to do with my previous characters, because i buy this series expecting a clean cut every time. The connection between 2 and Origins was perfect, in my opinion. We knew why we weren't the hero, and Hawke's story had nothing to do with stopping blights or getting back at a "traitor" who was trying to kill you. If it stopped after we killed Orsino and we had to stop Meredith as the Inquisitor, i would've been annoyed because Meredith was Hawke's enemy. For that reason, i'm not too keen on the idea of dealing with Solas as someone who doesn't know him, or feel any responsibility in stopping him (especially since we kind of helped him). But that may change when i actually know how they intend to end the story.

 

Who knows. I personally hope they do what fits the story. That may be the Inquisitor, but it may be the newest Faceinthecrowd that we currently know nothing about. Only time will tell.

 

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Except all those things with Morrigan are completely optional. She doesn't even have to be present in the game, you can ask her to leave. Whilst Solas deceives you no matter who you are, he takes your arm no matter who you are, you swear to stop him no matter who you are. These aren't optional. There was no third choice at the end of the game to say "Solas, I actually don't care about your plot to destroy the world, I'm just gonna ignore it". You do have the option to ignore Morrigan.

 

lol. I found that funny.

Solas: "I must restore my people to their former glory, and your world -- and everyone in it -- are necessary casualties. I'm sorry."

Quizzy (with a shrug): "Don't worry about it. I'm going to disband the inquisition and retire to that haunted mansion in the Emerald Graves. I can't be expected to fight now that I'm disabled, so I might as well relax and enjoy myself. I think I've earned it."

Solas (surprised): "Indeed you have. And ... I must say, you're taking this far better than I expected. Perhaps, when my quest to destroy Thedas-as-you-know-it becomes wearisome, I could stop by your new abode to partake of some refreshments and talk about old times?"

Quizzy: "Of course. We're still friends, Solas. We shouldn't let crossed-purposes come between us."

Solas: "Excellent. Farewell, then. I think the first stop on my journey will be Tevinter. I do hope there's nobody there to interfere with my plans."

Quizzy: "That would be unlucky. Goodbye!"

 


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But remember, Cassandra thought Hawke did it. That was the Unusual Suspects-style idea behind DA2, where she slowly unravels the truth that it was Anders, and Hawke just ended up getting caught in the middle of all that insanity. But because of what you did - one side thinks you're a war criminal, the other thinks you're a hero, you're the best bet for the Chantry to get them to stop tearing itself apart. That places Hawke at the Conclave, and it's what gives you access to the inner sanctum where Divine Justinia is waiting (while Corypheus bursts in). 

 

All of this is to say that, to me, there's nothing distinctive about the Inquisitor's history with Solas vs. the narrative path that Hawke was on before just being put on a bus in DAI. 

 

So you think the way the mage/templar conflict was handled in DA:I was good and should be repeated with Solas for DA4? Because I think it was a huge mistake. Just because they built up something interesting with potential and decided to toss it in favor of another "ancient evil threatens world" story once doesn't mean they should do it again.


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I have been thinking about this and maybe the next game could allow you to play as both  the Inquisitor and the new hero. Presumably someone from Tevinter, a slave, mage, or whatever. The Witcher 3 did so, and it was awesome. 

 

Not as interesting as playing the Inquisitor again, but well, one can dream. 


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lol. I found that funny.

Solas: "I must restore my people to their former glory, and your world -- and everyone in it -- are necessary casualties. I'm sorry."

Quizzy (with a shrug): "Don't worry about it. I'm going to disband the inquisition and retire to that haunted mansion in the Emerald Graves. I can't be expected to fight now that I'm disabled, so I might as well relax and enjoy myself. I think I've earned it."

Solas (surprised): "Indeed you have. And ... I must say, you're taking this far better than I expected. Perhaps, when my quest to destroy Thedas-as-you-know-it becomes wearisome, I could stop by your new abode to partake of some refreshments and talk about old times?"

Quizzy: "Of course. We're still friends, Solas. We shouldn't let crossed-purposes come between us."

Solas: "Excellent. Farewell, then. I think the first stop on my journey will be Tevinter. I do hope there's nobody there to interfere with my plans."

Quizzy: "That would be unlucky. Goodbye!"

 

 

Omg this was too hilarious! I also find it funny that some players want the next game to focus on other issues and have the Solas arc be a side thing. I mean, what could be more important than the destruction of the world on such a big level?


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lol. I found that funny.

Solas: "I must restore my people to their former glory, and your world -- and everyone in it -- are necessary casualties. I'm sorry."

Quizzy (with a shrug): "Don't worry about it. I'm going to disband the inquisition and retire to that haunted mansion in the Emerald Graves. I can't be expected to fight now that I'm disabled, so I might as well relax and enjoy myself. I think I've earned it."

Solas (surprised): "Indeed you have. And ... I must say, you're taking this far better than I expected. Perhaps, when my quest to destroy Thedas-as-you-know-it becomes wearisome, I could stop by your new abode to partake of some refreshments and talk about old times?"

Quizzy: "Of course. We're still friends, Solas. We shouldn't let crossed-purposes come between us."

Solas: "Excellent. Farewell, then. I think the first stop on my journey will be Tevinter. I do hope there's nobody there to interfere with my plans."

Quizzy: "That would be unlucky. Goodbye!"

 

For Assquisitor, the "refreshments" available when Solas stops by consist of a wide variety of teas.

 

Omg this was too hilarious! I also find it funny that some players want the next game to focus on other issues and have the Solas arc be a side thing. I mean, what could be more important than the destruction of the world on such a big level?

I think Sols's arc, even if the Inquisitor is the main and only protag, will be... not "side", I suppose. But in the background. For the majority of the game. But everything you deal with and do will be building up to it.

 

Say, you take out a slaver ring as a favor to a new elven companion who will give you info on Solas' spy network in return. You meddle with the Magesterium to give Dorian, the man who knows and believes you about the threat Solas presents, a better political position and more freedom to act. Or you lead a gorilla faction into Seheron to diffuse the tensions there and pacify the area enough so that you can safely get in and take a look at some ancient elven archive that holds old Elvhen records that will give you an idea of places the Dread Wolf and his rebellion had strong ties with in the past, thus providing you leads on where his base of operations is-- or even the place he plans to tear down the Veil from.

 

Like Solas will be the end goal and your fixing or changing of the political/social/whatever landscape of northern Thedas will be byproducts.


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Actually,the line is "My personal adventure day (went everywhere to close lot of Rifts) may be done." And no matter disbanding or becoming a peacemaker organization, the action and meeting intend to stop Solas is underground.

 

So you can think the line as a 'Smoke bomb'. 


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Do any of you actually believe we WILL play as the Inquisitor again. Not just 'do you want to?' but do you really think we will?

 

Hah, a very good question.

 

Strictly subjectively speaking, I strongly believe that there is such immense potential in the Inquisitor as the main character (player character) now that it would be a great shame and a huge missed opportunity if it was left unrealized, and that this potential is big enough to be noticed and to warrant a pause and consideration, at the very least. If I were to be a bit more objective, on the one hand, considering the precedents, I have certain doubts, on the other, nothing is set in stone.


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I agree. It's the downside of setting up the villain of the next game and having a different protagonist every game.

At the very least, The Inquisitor needs to be a major supporting character. Doing that is bound to ruffle some people jimmies, but personally, I don't care that much what they do with the Inquisitor as an NPC as long as it's not completely out of left field.

 

EDIT: I'd like to see Solas as the Big Bad, with the Inquisitor as the Big Good, and our new guy/gal get's their own Archenemy.


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Do any of you actually believe we WILL play as the Inquisitor again. Not just 'do you want to?' but do you really think we will?

 

I want to. But yes I think we will. But I want to see a new hero two, so as i said before be like GTA and have more then one protagonist your quizzy and the new guy.

If Solas is the main antagonist of DA4 (which seems likely, it'd be stupid to throw in a brand new bad guy at this point to play the role of the main antagonist) then yes its likely. To put it simply I say "imagine witch hunt, but instead of the warden who is Morrigans friend/ love interest / enemy its Hawke." it doesn't have the same emotional impact. But other reasons I think the Inquisitor (should and might) make a come back is: 

  • It'd be a great opportunity to show off what the craftsmen of Thedas can make in terms of prognostics.
     
  • Having two heros would mean that they can run two stories then merge them to one big one, they show us Tevinter but keep Solas relevant.
     
  • Character Development, Imagine getting to see your relationship with your LI progress. Maybe you can finally get married to Cassandra or Jospehine? Get to see how married life is treating Inquisitor and Sera or Inquisitor and Cullen, Get to see how Varric is coping with being Viscount. I want to see how romances and friendship's can only get better. (imagine an improved ME3 style game)
     
  • Why do we need so many heros? Seriously its silly at this point, It works for the elder scrolls series because its over a long period of time but we have had three hero's who have changed the face of Thedas in less then 13 years (guestimate) I'd like to see a change of pace.
     
  • I don't know how best to describe it other then imagine it like Ezio Auditore from Ass Creed. We had the first game with the first couple of heros, then the second game which was split into three parts, then AC3 after Ezio's story was finished. I always found (this is my opinion) that Ezio's story was the most interesting because we got to know him well, the Inquisitor isn't everyone's popular choice and Shepard wasn't that interesting but the Inquisitor if done right could become the most interesting character if we are allowed to evolve them further. (or we may end up wanting to kill them off at the very end of their story)

 

I could go on and on but those are my own personal reasons why i think the Inquisitor would come back as a Co-Hero with the DA4 hero.

 

And before anyone says "But I want new love interests and companions" I would simply say "thats what the DA4 hero is for, new love interests, new villains, new stories that are not linked to Solas." like GTA but with dragons and less violence.


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I want to. But yes I think we will. But I want to see a new hero two, so as i said before be like GTA and have more then one protagonist your quizzy and the new guy.

If Solas is the main antagonist of DA4 (which seems likely, it'd be stupid to throw in a brand new bad guy at this point to play the role of the main antagonist) then yes its likely. To put it simply I say "imagine witch hunt, but instead of the warden who is Morrigans friend/ love interest / enemy its Hawke." it doesn't have the same emotional impact. But other reasons I think the Inquisitor (should and might) make a come back is: 

  • It'd be a great opportunity to show off what the craftsmen of Thedas can make in terms of prognostics.
     
  • Having two heros would mean that they can run two stories then merge them to one big one, they show us Tevinter but keep Solas relevant.
     
  • Character Development, Imagine getting to see your relationship with your LI progress. Maybe you can finally get married to Cassandra or Jospehine? Get to see how married life is treating Inquisitor and Sera or Inquisitor and Cullen, Get to see how Varric is coping with being Viscount. I want to see how romances and friendship's can only get better. (imagine an improved ME3 style game)
     
  • Why do we need so many heros? Seriously its silly at this point, It works for the elder scrolls series because its over a long period of time but we have had three hero's who have changed the face of Thedas in less then 13 years (guestimate) I'd like to see a change of pace.
     
  • I don't know how best to describe it other then imagine it like Ezio Auditore from Ass Creed. We had the first game with the first couple of heros, then the second game which was split into three parts, then AC3 after Ezio's story was finished. I always found (this is my opinion) that Ezio's story was the most interesting because we got to know him well, the Inquisitor isn't everyone's popular choice and Shepard wasn't that interesting but the Inquisitor if done right could become the most interesting character if we are allowed to evolve them further. (or we may end up wanting to kill them off at the very end of their story)

 

I could go on and on but those are my own personal reasons why i think the Inquisitor would come back as a Co-Hero with the DA4 hero.

 

And before anyone says "But I want new love interests and companions" I would simply say "thats what the DA4 hero is for, new love interests, new villains, new stories that are not linked to Solas." like GTA but with dragons and less violence.

 

Exactly my thoughts. Ezio's story was brilliantly executed, and, sadly the problem with dragon age games is that the developers don't let you connect too much with your created character. Sure you spend time with them slaying dragons and getting to know your party, but aside from that? I would have liked to know more of the background of my Lavellan, her experiences, how she became good with her bow and that stuff. 

 

I'm getting tired of the new hero prototype they are giving us with each game. If they want to start a fresh story, they should try a different approach. And the idea of having both a seasoned hero and a new one is really appealing. It would give room to keep their new hero while incorporating some character development for the ex-inquisitor. And combining both arcs?  Briliant I would play the **** out of it. I've said it a couple posts before, but The witcher 3 is an excellent reference. You play as Geralt, but also Ciri, which is otp and an overpowered character. 

 

Also, I'm new to this forum and I am wondering: Does Bioware care about what fans say here? 


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