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[Darkly Tranquil]

There isn't actually a choice. The Inquisitor leads the offensive against Solas no matter what you choose. Even more reason to bring them back!

Bioware could troll the hell out of us by killing the Inquisitor off in the prologue of the next game. Imagine if they opened the game with you playing as the Inquisitor, and had the character die, then throw you to the new protagonist (I imagine the effect would be a lot like the feeling in The Last of Us when you switch from playing as Joel to playing as Ellie). That would certainly be interesting. I doubt they have the guts to weather the rage fest that would ensue, however.

[AnUnculturedLittlePotato]

Play as the bland boring blank slate character?

No. That's qunari for "No."

[Nefla]

Bioware could troll the hell out of us by killing the Inquisitor off in the prologue of the next game. Imagine if they opened the game with you playing as the Inquisitor, and had the character die, then throw you to the new protagonist (I imagine the effect would be a lot like the feeling in The Last of Us when you switch from playing as Joel to playing as Ellie). That would certainly be interesting. I doubt they have the guts to weather the rage fest that would ensue, however.

That would be an automatic "will not buy" for me.

[Ann'Nonnie'Mus]

Yeah, but if they brought them back as the main PC chances are they will have the worse ending ever. After all, they don't care about our choices at all. So why should they care what our ending? Remeber, in DA2 non of your actions mattered what so ever in DAI.

That brings me to my other point actually in order to start making the choices we made in previous games matter they should probably do an awakening style for Da4. Because of the choices they allow your inquisitor to make.

[AnUnculturedLittlePotato]

That would be an automatic "will not buy" for me.

Ha. You would have pre ordered it already so.

[Nefla]

Play as the bland boring blank slate character?

No. That's qunari for "No."

With a new freedom and a personal connection to the antagonist, the inquisitor has the potential to become very interesting. If you think they can pull it off, then it could make for a great game. If they don't have the skills or ideas to pull it off then the next protagonist will be just as bland. Either they've learned or they haven't. A new PC won't affect that.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Here's the thing.

 

If were going to have the Inquisitor as a PC than she or he isn't going to come back alone. Were also going to have to bring back many of the cast of Inquisition. That's about eight possible companions along with advisers that are either are going to take up companion slots or make cameos. Add that to the need for past romances to also get some acknowledgement and time, possibly at the expense of having new one's written, like in ME 3. Now this might not be a big issue for people who don't care if DA 4 becomes Inquisition Part 2, but for me personally I'd prefer something new. New backstories, an entire cast of new companions, new character motivations, new perspectives, new PC voice actors and a new PC. 

 

I've played the Inquisitor. It was fun for the most part, but now I'm done with them. The same way I'm done with the Warden and Hawke. I'm fine with the Inquisitor making an extended cameo like Hawke had, but when it comes to the PC fresh and new is better. 

[GoldenGail3]

That would be an automatic "will not buy" for me.

I'll play Skyrim if they did that, because I actually trust the Elder Scroll series taking my choices in account.

[AnUnculturedLittlePotato]

I'll play Skyrim if they did that, because I actually trust the Elder Scroll series taking my choices in account.

What choices?

[AresKeith]

There isn't actually a choice. The Inquisitor leads the offensive against Solas no matter what you choose. Even more reason to bring them back!

 

Bringing them back is one thing, bringing back as the main PC is another

[Nefla]

Ha. You would have pre ordered it already so.

The only game I've ever pre-ordered in my life was ME3...that was a mistake. I was suckered by DA:I's advertising and all the things the devs were saying made me believe that my faith would be restored. They made big, beautiful maps, they showed us interesting side quests with branching possibilities and companion interaction (which ended up being completely cut from the game) and one of the most important things to me which was race selection. I had faith and so I bought DA:I day one instead of watching let's plays online. I'll never make that mistake again. ME3 completely killed any and all affection I had for the series. Since I played it, I couldn't bring myself to even touch 1 and 2 which I had loved. I haven't looked up anything for the next ME, I've never even clicked on the subforum. I won't buy it.

 

Trespasser was something that I really enjoyed and it sparked my imagination for what an awesome game DA4 might have the potential to be if done right and if the inquisitor is the protagonist again. I just want to know which direction they're going to go. If it uses a new protagonist, I'll know to steer clear of DA4 as well.

[Nefla]

Here's the thing.

 

If were going to have the Inquisitor as a PC than she or he isn't going to come back alone. Were also going to have to bring back many of the cast of Inquisition. That's about eight possible companions along with advisers that are either are going to take up companion slots or make cameos. Add that to the need for past romances to also get some acknowledgement and time, possibly at the expense of having new one's written, like in ME 3. Now this might not be a big issue for people who don't care if DA 4 becomes Inquisition Part 2, but for me personally I'd prefer something new. New backstories, an entire cast of new companions, new character motivations, new perspectives, new PC voice actors and a new PC.

Awakening wasn't a full game, but the only returning companion in that was Oghren and he was completely pointless. A separate adventure away from home...they could definitely do it.

[Nefla]

I'll play Skyrim if they did that, because I actually trust the Elder Scroll series taking my choices in account.

I just want Fallout 4 to come out already

[Ann'Nonnie'Mus]

I think it'd be cool if they could do something like your given a new character with origin stories and follow their experience as they go through tevinter. Then, in like a DLC or something your the inquisitor but your more of an observer. You go through the chaos the new character left behind and see the impact it had on tevinter, and then that's when you decide, 'Yep... that's my helper.'

 

I think it'd be cool because there's more going on in tevinter than just Solas, but it also ties in a new protag. Would it be bad for Solas to be resolved in Da5? In which case you can choose to be your inquisitor or new protag who they've developed a reason for them to go after Solas in Da4. Plus you still get to be both.

And with the origin stories maybe people will feel more connected to the Da4 character and not hate the idea of them returning?

I wrote a post on it with more detail than this but this is the basics

[ComedicSociopathy]

Awakening wasn't a full game, but the only returning companion in that was Oghren and he was completely pointless. A separate adventure away from home...they could definitely do it.

 

As you say Awakenings wasn't a full game, but ME 3 was and more recent, and they filled that game with old companions and cameos.

 

Also, if the point of having the Inquisitor return is because they have a personal history with Solas and therefore have more meaningful interaction then a new PC than couldn't the same be said about the entire cast of Inquisition. Why bother writing a new companion when I can have Sera, Cole, Varric, Cassandra and the rest interact with Solas along with our Inquisitor? It would probably be less costly and easier for Bioware just do that, which is they'd do in a heartbeat if they seriously thought about having the Inquisitor as a PC.  

[Nefla]

As you say Awakenings wasn't a full game, but ME 3 was and more recent, and they filled that game with old companions and cameos.

 

Also, if the point of having the Inquisitor return is because they have a personal history with Solas and therefore have more meaningful interaction then a new PC than couldn't the same be said about the entire cast of Inquisition. Why bother writing a new companion when I can have Sera, Cole, Varric, Cassandra and the rest interact with Solas along with our Inquisitor? It would probably be less costly and easier for Bioware just do that, which is they'd do in a heartbeat if they seriously thought about having the Inquisitor as a PC.  

I wouldn't say no to DA4 being a direct continuation with the companions returning, but I also think a skilled writer could bring over the inquisitor (and obviously they're putting Dorian in it) and leave the original companions back at home doing other things. Maybe maintaining the cover story that the inquisitor is still in Ferelden/Orlais rather than working undercover in Tevinter to stop Solas' plans. :3

[AnUnculturedLittlePotato]

The only game I've ever pre-ordered in my life was ME3...that was a mistake. I was suckered by DA:I's advertising and all the things the devs were saying made me believe that my faith would be restored. They made big, beautiful maps, they showed us interesting side quests with branching possibilities and companion interaction (which ended up being completely cut from the game) and one of the most important things to me which was race selection. I had faith and so I bought DA:I day one instead of watching let's plays online. I'll never make that mistake again. ME3 completely killed any and all affection I had for the series. Since I played it, I couldn't bring myself to even touch 1 and 2 which I had loved. I haven't looked up anything for the next ME, I've never even clicked on the subforum. I won't buy it.

 

Trespasser was something that I really enjoyed and it sparked my imagination for what an awesome game DA4 might have the potential to be if done right and if the inquisitor is the protagonist again. I just want to know which direction they're going to go. If it uses a new protagonist, I'll know to steer clear of DA4 as well.

Why? Why do you want almost no new companions, advisers or new people? Convince me how Sera, Josi, Cullen, Cass, dorian, Iron Bull (Who may be dead) and, Blackwall are all gonna show up? 7 people that HAVE to come back. You don't think that's limiting? It's almost a full cast!

[Nefla]

Why? Why do you want almost no new companions, advisers or new people? Convince me how Sera, Josi, Cullen, Cass, dorian, Iron Bull (Who may be dead) and, Blackwall are all gonna show up? 7 people that HAVE to come back. You don't think that's limiting? It's almost a full cast!

The companions don't have to come back.

[AnUnculturedLittlePotato]

The companions don't have to come back.

Yes they do. Either all previous LI's come back or there's no new LI's.

[GoldenGail3]

Yes they do. Either all previous LI's come back or there's no new LI's.

No, they really don't. I personally want Calpernia as a companion, she's pretty chill.

[ComedicSociopathy]

The companions don't have to come back.

 

They didn't have to come back in Mass Effect 3, but they still did regardless. Also, with the fight against Solas possibly deciding the end of the world wouldn't you think that the companions would drop whatever they were doing and help you. Sort of like in Trespasser actually.

 

Unless you think that they wouldn't be active in helping because Solas knows them to well? In which case the same can be side about the Inquisitor, which than reinforces the need the Inquisitor to hire a new unexpected element that Solas won't see coming... 

[Ann'Nonnie'Mus]

Why? Why do you want almost no new companions, advisers or new people? Convince me how Sera, Josi, Cullen, Cass, dorian, Iron Bull (Who may be dead) and, Blackwall are all gonna show up? 7 people that HAVE to come back. You don't think that's limiting? It's almost a full cast!

The previous companion's could just be cameos or something, you can still have new companions. Inquistor says they need to find new people. It wouldn't be difficult at all, its not as if you played as those characters and chose what they said, they only responded based off what you chose your inquisitor to say which happens no matter if you have a new protag or old. And they always do cameos of old characters. They did it in Da2 and DaI. So, no, not a big deal. 

[Abyss108]

Mass Effect 2 didn't bring the LIs from the first game back for more than a cameo. Same with some of them in 3.

[AnUnculturedLittlePotato]

Mass Effect 2 didn't bring the LIs from the first game back for more than a cameo. Same with some of them in 3.

but then everyone get's pissy if only some come back.
It's just more trouble than it's worth.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Mass Effect 2 didn't bring the LIs from the first game back for more than a cameo. Same with some of them in 3.

 

Many of those cameos in ME 3 were entire missions.