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[spockjedi]

I'm voting for it. Why?

• It's available for five of the six classes - except one, that has plenty of weapons already.
• It doesn't need any special training, so you don't have to play until the Collector Ship to use it.
• It makes Assault Rifle training redundant, so you can pick a Shotgun or a Sniper Rifle.
• It has more firepower than many of the Assault Rifles, and doesn't suffer from the lack of ammo of the best AR's (Mattock and Vindicator).
• It's one of the most versatile weapons, since it can be used against any enemy, at close or far ranges.
• Speaking of ammo, you rarely run out of it, and it's possible to upgrade the weapon to have even more.
• It's also relatively effective against armor, more than any SMG and even some AR's.
• You can acquire it very early in the game, since Kasumi's mission is readily available.

A few possible cons:

• If you're not on PS3, you have to buy Kasumi's DLC for 560 points/6.99 dollars.
• Kasumi's mission is a bit hard to play in the beginning.
• The Soldier never gets a chance to carry this weapon.

This, of course, only applies to ME2, since it's inaccessible during a great part of ME3 and, in my experience, outclassed by the Punisher and the Hurricane as the best SMG's.

[sjsharp2011]

It's definitely my favourite SMG and my go to weapon when I'm not playing a soldier although personally I do prefer Assault rifles over SMG's and I'm not really that great with a shotgun in ME really so don't tend to use them.

[capn233]

It's pretty good.  Probably the main thing is that the Avenger is slightly underpowered.

 

The Locust is pretty much a do everything weapon since it got the AR multipliers.  Of course, on most of the classes that can take SMGs, the role was supposed to be shield/barrier stripping, and Shuriken or Tempest are at least as good as Locust.  If you are playing mostly ranged, the difference in practical accuracy might not make the difference noticeable though.

 

Since you mentioned it, I prefer the Vindicator to the Locust.

[sjsharp2011]

It's pretty good.  Probably the main thing is that the Avenger is slightly underpowered.

 

The Locust is pretty much a do everything weapon since it got the AR multipliers.  Of course, on most of the classes that can take SMGs, the role was supposed to be shield/barrier stripping, and Shuriken or Tempest are at least as good as Locust.  If you are playing mostly ranged, the difference in practical accuracy might not make the difference noticeable though.

 

Since you mentioned it, I prefer the Vindicator to the Locust.

Yeah that's why I tend to go wit hthe Locust most of the time because it's just as good at range as it is close in and I prefer to keep my  enemies at range usually. It's one of the reasons why I like the Mattock as well it has a good range and a sniper rifle style punch

[gothpunkboy89]

Honestly not that impressed by the locust. I was my first play though because it was an smg that could actually hit accuracy from a distance. But after my second play though it is relegated to substitute till I get a hold of the tempest. Maxed out warp ammo mod rips into anyone stupid enough to get close to me. Minus the story driven bullet sponges like the pretoriean.

[themikefest]

My favorite is the collector assault rifle if I'm not playing as a soldier, then it would be the Revenant. I've hardly ever used the locust. I use a pistol until I get assault training during the collector ship mission

[cap and gown]

The only time I choose the Tempest is when the lack of accuracy is a good thing, and the only mission where that applies is on the dead Reaper. With the way the Husks clump up it really doesn't matter if the bullet you aimed at one husk misses it, because it will probably just hit the husk next to it.

 

Besides, everyone knows the Locust is the "I win" gun of ME2. Why else would the writers include an inside joke about it in ME3 if you have Kasumi destroy the greybox?

[gothpunkboy89]

The only time I choose the Tempest is when the lack of accuracy is a good thing, and the only mission where that applies is on the dead Reaper. With the way the Husks clump up it really doesn't matter if the bullet you aimed at one husk misses it, because it will probably just hit the husk next to it.

 

Besides, everyone knows the Locust is the "I win" gun of ME2. Why else would the writers include an inside joke about it in ME3 if you have Kasumi destroy the greybox?

 

He if I'm a class that lacks AS or sniper I use pistol for distance shots. Once they close in the distance I switch to tempest and unload on them.

[BronzTrooper]

If you don't have the weapon packs, then yes, it is probably the best gun in the game.  But if you have the weapon packs, then it does pretty much get out-shined by the Phalanx at range and the Mattock in all-around usefulness.

 

I used to use the Locust all the time in ME2, but once I got access to the Mattock and the Phalanx, I almost never used it unless I was out of ammo for both.  It is definitely the best all-around SMG in ME2, but the Mattock and Phalanx do more damage per shot and have better accuracy due to them being semi-auto.

 

As for the Revenant, it's fun, but I think that the Claymore and the Widow are better as specialty weapons.  Yes, the Widow and Claymore have limited clip capacity, but that's because they're meant to hit the target with a single shot rather than hoping to hit the target with a few rounds while firing 50+ at/near said target.

[capn233]

Revenant is better than the Claymore or Widow on the class that can actually chose it.

[geth47]

It´s so incredibly useful that I would probably suck at ME2 if I resorted to any other SMG. Ive said this recently on another topic but I will state again: I rely too much on this gun if Im using a non-soldier shepard. Shes so balanced and effective that this weapon alone is reason enough to purchase the kasumi DLC. 

 

There are very few instances when the tempest may be more effective, like when surrounded by husks in the dead reaper, or when you need to recruit tali and you need to face a geth prime and then the geth colossus. Theyre giant, so the higher damage of the tempest will represent a larger advantage. She lacks precision, yes, but the enemies are hard to miss since theyre enormous.

 

But all in all, for all purposes, the locust is the best smg, hands down.

 

But the best weapon for the whole game? I dont know...

 

If Im playing a biotic and I dont use powers for extra protection, smgs leave my shepard way too vulnerable, pretty much like assault riffles. I think hand-pistols can be better for a biotic. 

 

If Im using a vanguard, after striking the enemy with charge, if Im facing only one enemy or maybe 2, a smg can be effective. But if there are more, or Im playing at a harder difficult, then Shotguns are better because they have impact and can kill with just one or two shots.

 

While Im willing to defend the locust as the most effective SMG in general applications, I don´t think there´s a best weapon in general in Mass Effect 2, specially considering how you can evolve shepard in different directions in all the six classes.

 

Ive said all this regarding the locust as a weapon for the protagonist. When it comes to squad-mates, tempest is the best smg. They benefit from the insane damage it causes but they suffer no penalty in terms of aiming. Intentioned or not by the developers, the npcs make precise shots with it.

[IndianaJonesYay]

The only time I choose the Tempest is when the lack of accuracy is a good thing, and the only mission where that applies is on the dead Reaper. With the way the Husks clump up it really doesn't matter if the bullet you aimed at one husk misses it, because it will probably just hit the husk next to it.

 

Besides, everyone knows the Locust is the "I win" gun of ME2. Why else would the writers include an inside joke about it in ME3 if you have Kasumi destroy the greybox?

 

"Uh, the human here is confused..."

 

Seriously, could you explain the inside joke? I must have missed it, and would like to know.

 

Good point about the dead Reaper mission. Good night, that is a long, boring mission... how many people did Cerberus have working there ot make so many husks?

 

EDIT: Oh, and plus one for the Locust. Great gun. 

[cap and gown]

"Uh, the human here is confused..."

 

Seriously, could you explain the inside joke? I must have missed it, and would like to know.

 

Hanar Diplomacy after having destroyed the greybox in ME2.

[MichaelN7]

I don't know that "best" is in effect, since there's no "best" class and whatever constitutes the best weapon is dependent on how you play, but it is certainly among the most versatile.

Vanguard and Sentinel are my favorite classes (both ME2 and ME3), so both get to use it.  I'll only refer to ME2 for this post though.

 

For Vanguard, it gives me a ranged option when charging would be suicidal, and it has bonus damage to shields and barriers which Vanguard has no easy counter to.

I usually pick Barrier for my Vanguard, so the Locust paired with my "panic button" gives me increased survivability, range, and damage potential.

 

For Sentinel, it has good damage compared to the other SMG's, so weapons fire is a much more useful tactic, especially if my armor just detonated and my powers are all on cooldown.

I like Warp Ammo for my Sentinel, which further increases damage to armor and barriers, so I can make Sentinel power-based while still having reliable weapon damage.

 

For both classes, the extra ammo upgrade is priority, since it chews through ammo rather quickly.

[ReptiloidGod]

I use the Locust in ME2, in ME3 I prefer the Tempest. Giant magazines and loads of damage. Especially in ME3MP, you can't reload the Tempest often enough before their shields reload.

[IndianaJonesYay]

Hanar Diplomacy after having destroyed the greybox in ME2.

 

Ah, got it. Thank you!

[RedCaesar97]

Hanar Diplomacy after having destroyed the greybox in ME2.

 

That is not a reference to the Locust. It is not a reference to anything in ME2 other than her being a thief and infiltrating a party, which is not really a callback at all.

[KaiserShep]

In ME2, my go-to weapon is still the Mattock, but the Locust is a terrific backup, though the Tempest is a better crowd control weapon, especially if you have ammo powers. In ME3, I still equip Shepard with a Locust for posterity's sake, and I have it light enough so that it incurs little weight penalty. I want to love the Hurricane, but it's better in the hands of Liara or EDI. 

[Quarian Master Race]

Nah, it is nowhere near as broken as the Mattock, and probably not even the GPS. Take the Mattock out though, and it does compete for essentially the same role as the other non Revenant AR's do, making it an attractive choice to use it as such and take a sniper or shotty on non weapons kits.

Whether or not I use it depends on what my SMG is there to do. Usually, post Horizon I phase it out in favour of the Tempest because it is better vs shields and barriers, which is primarily what I use SMGs for (Infiltrator rifles are comparatively weak vs boss shields and engineer has overload+ Phalanx or Carnifex headshots for the mooks). I use the Locust early game though because the Shuriken is so innacurate that it fails to get consistent headshots past very short range, meaning the Locust will out DPS it in most circumstances despite the lower defense multiplier.

[Vegeta 77]

Go to gun in me2 is the mattock it just shreds people.

[BronzTrooper]

That is not a reference to the Locust. It is not a reference to anything in ME2 other than her being a thief and infiltrating a party, which is not really a callback at all.

 

I have to agree.  Not sure where people got the idea that it was a reference to the Locust.

[PsychicHammer]

Needs more dakka. Revenant.

[RakhanaBby]

I have to agree that the Locust gave me both good memories (I love Kasumi. Little baby doll ♥) and amazing fire rate.

 

Also, Donovan Hock's face when we SHOOT ONE OF HIS ARTIFACTS. (Dunno if it was with the Locust or some other gun)

What about the Arc Projector, though..... Sadistic fun with that. XDD

[a_mouse]

The Locust is a great mid-range compliment to a shotgun for classes that cannot equip an AR.  The exception is pre-DCS where I often take a Shuriken (in lieu of a shotgun) for short range.  Tempest is great for short range as well, but by the time I have it I also have a shotgun - so don't have much for use for it at that point.  

[cap and gown]

The Locust is a great mid-range compliment to a shotgun for classes that cannot equip an AR.  The exception is pre-DCS where I often take a Shuriken (in lieu of a shotgun) for short range.  Tempest is great for short range as well, but by the time I have it I also have a shotgun - so don't have much for use for it at that point.  

 

Interestingly, I chose the Tempest as my close range weapon rather than a shotgun when I did a Sentinel insanity run. I don't like shotguns in Mass Effect 2 very much but playing a Sentinel forced me into close range combat, so I went with the Tempest and chose sniper rifle training. I do like using the Viper.