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Seems almost a given that DA 4 is going to be focused heavily on the renewed conflict between Tevinter and Qunari. So, with that being the case and in light of recent events in Trespasser, which side would you support? 

 

The Tevinter magocracy or the Qunari triumvirate? 



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Tevinter, the lesser of two evils by far, at least they aren't the religious fantasy empire version of 1984 complete with a ministry of love and truth. Plus I always have to side with the fantasy Rome empire counterpart, the light of civilization.


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Me personally? Or 'me' Inquisitor?

 

I myself support Tevinter, because they have no official desire to conquer the south.

 

My Inquisitor will likely not support either side (or both depending on circumstances), while also holding on to the Qunari alliance.



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Tevinter, the lesser of two evils by far, at least they aren't the religious fantasy empire version of 1984 complete with a ministry of love and truth. Plus I always have to side with the fantasy Rome empire counterpart, the light of civilization.

 

This is pretty much how I feel.



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Well, as long as they are focused on each other, neither can attack the South. But if I had to choose a side, I'd go with Tevinter. I'd rather side with power hungry magisters than religious fanatical Qunari. At least with magisters, you are set to be prepared for any sign of betrayal, but you never know how Qunari will use the Qun to turn on allies.


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ComedicSociopathy

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Me personally? Or 'me' Inquisitor?

 

I myself support Tevinter, because they have no official desire to conquer the south.

 

My Inquisitor will likely not support either side (or both depending on circumstances), while also holding on to the Qunari alliance.

 

Why not both? Suppose that goes for everyone. 



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Tevinter.

I don't see the appeal in the Qun. I don't think any of the games even make a case on why the Qun is suppose to be a great religion/philosophy to adopt.



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I'd side with the Qunari. I've always seen the Qun as closer to a political/moral philosophy than a religion, as religion requires belief whereas a philosophy requires that you understand. The Qunari/Qun is not the easiest thing to understand but there I get the idea that there is a strong sense of purpose for those under the Qun. 



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I LOVE THEM BOOOOOTH.

Well, I love Orzammar too, but I wouldn't actually want to live in any of those places. I like them because they're fictional and I can GTFO if I shut off my computer. If it came down to choosing one over the other in some in-game scenario, it's hard to say... the Qunari don't have any hunger or poverty but Tevinter has cooler clothes and architecture and magic. B) Depends how selfless my priorities are that day?
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I have to go with Tevinter.  As evil as much of the culture is (and it surely is), there is room for change and for growth.  You can at least make the case in Tevinter that things are wrong and need to be changed without being regarded as a dangerous loon to be "re-educated".  In fact (or so we're told) there is a significant (if outgunned) reform movement in Tevinter, and not all magisters eat children or drink their blood (just most of them).

 

Basically it comes down to this:  Tevinter is the way it is for a lot of reasons, but it has the ability (at least in principle ) to understand what is wrong and THAT is the first essential step to making things better.

 

The Qun is perfect and has all the answers.  Just ask them.  Don't worry about the re-educators.  They are there to "help you".....in a 1984 sort of way.  In such a society, constructive change is essentially impossible.


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I guess Tevinter. I like the Qunari more by far but they are the attackers... Tevinter is just trying to defend themselves.. for the moment at least.

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Tevinter. At least I can say Tevinter can change for the better with time.



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ComedicSociopathy

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Wow. Besides MortallyDead everyone's on the Tevinter train, hmm. I suppose that makes sense with the whole dragon breath fiasco happening. Plus, Tevinter has Dorian around to possibly make things better in the Imperium.

 

The Qun has... Tallis? And the Tal-Vashoth who from what we've heard about so far seem to act like savages reenacting scenes from Apocalypse Now.

 

Yeah, maybe Tevinter is the better of two demons. 



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Tevinter. Sinister wizards a good deal of that lot may be, at least they're flexible and have room to change for the better, and dissent among their own doesn't automatically lead to exile/execution. The Qun is the Qun and you're all bas that need to be enlightened. Follow that path or your soul is dust yada yada yada. Got magic? Well time to stitch those lips shut and put on the indoctrination mask. 


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As much as I hate them, I'd have to go with Tevinter. At least they and their ambitions are understandable.



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One side brutally stamps out all descent through psychological abuse and brute force.

 

And the other side could be either of our contenders.

 

Honestly, they're both pretty bad.  I like the philosophy of the Qun but not it's implementation.  I like the high culture of Tevintor but not its decadence.  It will be an excellent war to set the next game in!


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Tevinter all the way.

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Tevinter but only because the Qun leaves a bad taste in my mouth just saying it, especially after Trespasser. (good thing I never align with them)



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The one that's losing.  The Tevinter and the Qunari are both awful so the important thing to do is remember that you are not there to create disorder.  You are there to preserve disorder.  Keep the war going.  


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It is not even a choice for me, Tevinter Imperium all the way. As distasteful and abhorrent as i find some of their practises, the Qun is complete and total Anathema to me.I cannot condone a society i would not be able to live in personally.


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I cannot condone a society i would not be able to live in personally.

Ppffftt what? "I could never live the way you people do... Die filth!"

I don't want to be a Christian, should I go around stabbing Christians? They can't be condoned! Lol.
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QUNARI!



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Ppffftt what? "I could never live the way you people do... Die filth!"

I don't want to be a Christian, should I go around stabbing Christians? They can't be condoned! Lol.

 

Just because you don't condone a culture doesn't mean you want to actively destroy it. Unless of course your Qunari, in which case you are just waiting until you can remove or brainwash all those worthless bas


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Just because you don't condone a culture doesn't you actively are trying to destroy it. Unless of course your Qunari, in which case you are just waiting until you can remove or brainwash all those worthless bas.


Not all qunari. Most probably have their own **** to worry about.

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Ppffftt what? "I could never live the way you people do... Die filth!"

I don't want to be a Christian, should I go around stabbing Christians? They can't be condoned! Lol.

I was thinking about how best to reply to your statement and just gave up.I can't take anyone seriously that uses LOL to end a sentence with. Knee-jerk reactions like yours mentioning religion when it was not even mentioned and adding in stabbing people because of that religion is silly.The Qun is not even a religion and the Black Chantry in Tevinter is not a devoutly followed as the Andrastrian one.

I am well aware a war will possibly be waged between the two, however it will be more ideology vs free will and the main focus will be more than likely be Solas.


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