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[ReadingRambo220]

  So I've started trying out the Necro.  I'm having survival issues, and I'm quite frustrated with Ice Armor not triggering.  I will cast an Ice Mine, and stand on top of it.  It either doesn't trigger at all or dissipates after several seconds, while the mine persists.  What am I missing here? 

[ThatBruhYouDK]

I don't play Necro. Try that. Problem solved

[Yallegro]

Ice Armor not triggering properly is frequently reported problem

 

 

You could switch the Blizzard but I'm afraid that won't make a huge difference

 

 

 

Despite the bug I have yet to find a better survival technique on the necro.

Replace Ice Mine/Blizzard frequently

[ruggie]

Or just don't use either? Try spirit marking enemies to self revive yourself. Or frost step and/or fade cloak and play moving.

[Wavebend]

You need to exit the 3m AoE and re-enter for it to trigger again. Weird mechanic.

[nanotm]

don't waste your time trying to use ice armour unless your the leader with a great connection it wont work (just like several other things don't work properly when your not the leader) use virulent walking bomb target the weakest enemy in a clump hit them with it then kill them real fast the detonation will help take everything else down faster

 

I also like the upgraded starting skill on the spirit tree, drop it on weak mooks and it will eat them to death fast, really good to use on clumps in doorways especially if combined with death syphon and virulence and walking bomb, many's the time I get to spirit mode and cast those two skills so when it expires I get insta picked back up

 

if i'm totally honest I dislike playing the necro on harder difficulties because she's so squishy but no doubt that will change once I have more promotes under my belt

[Silversmurf]

Or frost step and/or fade cloak and play moving.

 

^ this is the way to go

[Yallegro]

Or just don't use either? Try spirit marking enemies to self revive yourself. Or frost step and/or fade cloak and play moving.

^ this is the way to go

Absolutely not!

Those builds are terrible, terrible!

<--- necro pro

Why these two endorse playing the necro like that is probably because they've snorted so many promotions and hakkon weapons that they have gone deaf dumb and blind

[ruggie]

Blizzard sucks. Ice mine sucks. Horror is ehh. Flash fire sucks. Mind blast sucks. Energy barrage sucks. The only skill that matters is walking bomb. I've played necto basically the same since I unlocked her but ice armor is trash.

[ReadingRambo220]

Blizzard sucks. Ice mine sucks. Horror is ehh. Flash fire sucks. Mind blast sucks. Energy barrage sucks. The only skill that matters is walking bomb. I've played necto basically the same since I unlocked her but ice armor is trash.

So you are suggesting WB, winters grasp and the FC/FS? That actually sounds interesting, given how frustrated I've been with her.

So do you ignore spirit mark too?

[ruggie]

Some people like playing wb, winter grasp, fade step, spirit mark. Or whatever but the mark is good for one reason and that's to revive you regardless. But I see it less and less.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

So you are suggesting WB, winters grasp and the FC/FS? That actually sounds interesting, given how frustrated I've been with her.

So do you ignore spirit mark too?

In all seriousness the best build I found for my own use, not saying everyone can do it, is Fade Cloak (use it aggressively, every time you have it [learned the usefulness of that from Drasca wayyyyyyy back in the day]). Upgraded Winters Grasp, it does amazing damage, and with virulence (or whatever it is called) when the enemy is killed with a status effect it will spread to nearby enemies, such as freeze. Walking Bomb, the DOT can crit so lots of damage and the explosion at the end that spreads it around if fantastic. I usually end up keeping horror and upgrading it, it will do some decent DOT and it panics enemies so the exp is good.

[Silversmurf]

Absolutely not!

Those builds are terrible, terrible!

<--- necro pro

Why these two endorse playing the necro like that is probably because they've snorted so many promotions and hakkon weapons that they have gone deaf dumb and blind

 

It's just more fun

[Gilli]

In all seriousness the best build I found for my own use, not saying everyone can do it, is Fade Cloak (use it aggressively, every time you have it [learned the usefulness of that from Drasca wayyyyyyy back in the day]). Upgraded Winters Grasp, it does amazing damage, and with virulence (or whatever it is called) when the enemy is killed with a status effect it will spread to nearby enemies, such as freeze. Walking Bomb, the DOT can crit so lots of damage and the explosion at the end that spreads it around if fantastic. I usually end up keeping horror and upgrading it, it will do some decent DOT and it panics enemies so the exp is good.

 

This is exactly how I build my Necro (tho I use Fade Step instead of Fade Cloak)

 

Winter's Grasp, Fade Step, Walking Bomb, Horror (everything upgraded) and I love it.

[Silversmurf]

Spirit mark is a safety net for people that die too much.

 

There always "that guy" that keeps a mob alive....at the end of the zone....

[ThatBruhYouDK]

This is exactly how I build my Necro (tho I use Fade Step instead of Fade Cloak)

Winter's Grasp, Fade Step, Walking Bomb, Horror (everything upgraded) and I love it.

Try it out with Fade Cloak instead, it does massive spirit damage and will protect you for a short time in the beginning (like the first half of the animation I don't know actual times, nor do I care for specifics like that tbh, I just go based off what I see). It is a great offensive and defensive ability. Use it every time it is off cooldown, you will be putting out alot more damage

[Gilli]

Try it out with Fade Cloak instead, it does massive spirit damage and will protect you for a short time in the beginning (like the first half of the animation I don't know actual times, nor do I care for specifics like that tbh, I just go based off what I see). It is a great offensive and defensive ability. Use it every time it is off cooldown, you will be putting out alot more damage

 

Hmm, have to try that the next time. I take FS, so I can move faster, or get away if I'm surrounded.

I have never actively used FC before, not even in SP.   (I passive use it because I have Razikale's Szepter  )

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Hmm, have to try that the next time. I take FS, so I can move faster, or get away if I'm surrounded.
I have never actively used FC before, not even in SP. (I passive use it because I have Razikale's Szepter )

It is definitely best when surrounded by enemies. It has an AOE that goes a little behind the users body so if you have a circle of enemies right next to you...yeah they will go for a little ride of death into the air

[Zorinho20_CRO]

I like WG,WB,FS and FC build.

Horror is OK,but those targetable spells suck with gamepad,even if I set up it on the fastest setting.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

I like WG,WB,FS and FC build.
Horror is OK,but those targetable spells suck with gamepad,even if I set up it on the fastest setting.

I do the same thing if I plug a controller in

[Proto]

Absolutely not!

Those builds are terrible, terrible!

<--- necro pro

Why these two endorse playing the necro like that is probably because they've snorted so many promotions and hakkon weapons that they have gone deaf dumb and blind

 

You obviously suck at this game bro. People were using that build with 11 constitution and sub 50 cunning.

 

Soloing Perilous pre-armor buffs. Pre-walking bomb buff. Check this out if you want to be educated: Link

 

L2P issue.

[Silversmurf]

I didn't hear or see his reply.

Even if I did , I couldn't say anything about it

[Silversmurf]

Double post. Silly mobile on train....

[hellbiter88]

You need to exit the 3m AoE and re-enter for it to trigger again. Weird mechanic.

 

Exactly this^^

 

Have tried testing how often this triggers in this scenario and how far you need to exit, and then reenter the area, for Ice armor to trigger. It's buggy as hell. Honestly just take the passive and rely on other abilities like winter's grasp or blizzard.

 

Alternatively if you find the new Heart of Pride Despair staff just use that in place of the ice armor passive--it applies the same, although more powerful buff, and works continuously without fading.

[Beerfish]

The necro is an excellent class vs the base opponents, she is instantly useful with her opening two abilities that being horror and winters grasp.  However she is a joke vs the newer opponents, some of which are immune to both fear and cold making her garbage if you want to run any way other than walking bomb.

 

Does the frost armour of the despair staff sync up will with her other abilities?