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#51
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I'd rather want to be able to see their actual faces. Maybe they created nanobots or something that allow them to live without needing constant sealed suits. 



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The design was terrible and lazy. There were much better concepts in the Art of the MEU book. Though, I hardly care as they're not one of my favorite species.


It's weird, but there's quite a lot of fan art of Quarians with better designs than even BioWare's unused designs. It seems like the Mass Effect artists hit a wall with Quarians.

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It seems that I'm the only one who likes the look of the quarians, how they're more human-looking. I just hate how BioWare revealed it.


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I don't mind them looking more human. The romance-specific photo is crap, but a proper reveal at Rannoch would've been nice. I mean it's the last chance we really had at that point. Oh wells.
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They should've went a lot stranger. If you liked Tali all the way up until ME3, it didn't have anything to do with her looks. You liked her for who she was. Seems Bioware took the safe route and just went with the attractive human look because they felt it'd turn off those people that had previously romanced her.

 

 

If I were a Talimancer I would've preferred they left it a mystery. Mysteriousness is attractive in its own right.



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I would've been fine if we never found out what they looked like. I also like a good mystery. The same can be said for Yoda and his species. I hope we never find out what they're called, or where they're from.

 

One thing I really dislike about Halo is how we now know sooooooo much about the Forerunners. I really liked the mystery from the earlier games.



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Only problem with keeping it a mystery is that a romanced Shepard knows what she looks like. If she remained a platonic love interest that could only be affectionate while trapped in the suit, then it would've been more effective.
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See, I agree with that too. While I do like mystery, if Shepard knows what Tali looks like then the player should know too. I'll stick to my original preference, I enjoy the look of them, just hate how it was implemented into the game.


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One thing I really dislike about Halo is how we now know sooooooo much about the Forerunners. I really liked the mystery from the earlier games.

Yes, but seeing as how this is the Reclaimer Trilogy, it was necessary that the Forerunners had to be more fully explored and fleshed out. And now the mystery lies with the Precursors. I kinda like it.



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I'm in favor of a slight redesign.

 

I didn't like Tali's design and thought it was far too human-looking, making the Quarians the most similar of Mass Effect's aliens to Star Trek aliens like the Bajorans or Vulcan. That might work with Star Trek, where many of the alien species are actually genetic offshoots of humanity seeded throughout the galaxy by its version of the Protheans, but it doesn't in the Mass Effect universe where all the space faring species evolved separately on different worlds and are wholly unrelated to one another.

 

I did like the slide of an unmasked Quarian in the Synthesis ending (the only thing I liked about Synthesis) slightly better than Tali's reveal, and I'd rather any unmasked Quarians were more similar to that than Tali's barely photoshopped photograph. It is still very humanoid of course, but it at least bothered to give the Quarians an exotic skin tone, which is at least one more alien feature than Tali's reveal had.

 

Obviously the Quarians are never going to get a redesign that makes them anything other than humanoid or aesthetically pleasing to the human eye, nor should they (a large redesign would create too many inconsistencies) but I'd rather they were more Mass Effect's equivalent of the Chiss than Mass Effect's equivalent of the Bajorans or Vulcans.

 

Yeah agree. I like the image of the quarian woman on the Synthesis slide, too. We all agree the photoshopped tali pic was rubbish. But the unusual skin tone and glowing eyes of the person in the slide is good enough for me. True, I'd have preferred something more exotic or alien, but if that's what they're going with, I'm fine with it. Though not crossing my fingers at actually seeing my second favorite race in MEA :(



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One thing I actually was dissapointed in was how limited cybernetics were implemented in the final design, at least in Tali's case. It was mentioned in the codex that quarians were invested into this field moreso than other species, being "surgically implanted" with mechanical devices. Tali's class descriptions included cybernetics being used to increase her health, and remember the ME1 design?

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The right arm looks half mechanical with tubes going in and out. References to such got reduced to what looks like a few little wires/ circuits by the time of the stock photo, even less than Renegade Shep's half fallen off face.
 

I always pictured something almost Borglike under there. Maybe not quite as obviously intended to grotesque, and obviously without a big protruding occular implant (though I always suspected the glowing eyes could be something similar), but more modified.

Spoiler

 



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... can go **** themselves, I agree.


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One thing I actually was dissapointed in was how limited cybernetics were implemented in the final design, at least in Tali's case. It was mentioned in the codex that quarians were invested into this field moreso than other species, being "surgically implanted" with mechanical devices. Tali's class descriptions included cybernetics being used to increase her health, and remember the ME1 design?

Spoiler

The right arm looks half mechanical with tubes going in and out. References to such got reduced to what looks like a few little wires/ circuits by the time of the stock photo, even less than Renegade Shep's half fallen off face.
 

I always pictured something almost Borglike under there. Maybe not quite as obviously intended to grotesque, and obviously without a big protruding occular implant (though I always suspected the glowing eyes could be something similar), but more modified.

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Pic one:  Damaged suit during pilgrimage and repaired with available (destroyed) geth parts.

Pic two:  The cybernetics are implanted.  There is nothing to show.  Shepard also had cybernetic implants, not only from his/her rebuilding but also from upgrades found/purchased along the way.  Yet Shepard was normal looking.  Either by being Paragon or using the Medical repair, even the silly glowing scars and screwball eyes could be corrected and made to look 100% human (normal).



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Spaces gipsies who excel at poverty, losing to the Geth and failling at every turn, should stay in the Milk Way.
The others species would look down on those who came from our galaxy if they every saw the Space Gipsies.
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Pic one:  Damaged suit during pilgrimage and repaired with available (destroyed) geth parts.

Source? Because in Homeworlds 2, which starts just as she sets out on pilgrimage, she already has it.

https://pulllist.com...ws/MAR120017/4/

 

Pic two:  The cybernetics are implanted.  There is nothing to show.  Shepard also had cybernetic implants, not only from his/her rebuilding but also from upgrades found/purchased along the way.  Yet Shepard was normal looking.  Either by being Paragon or using the Medical repair, even the silly glowing scars and screwball eyes could be corrected and made to look 100% human (normal).

I know Shep had cybernetic implants post Lazarus....hence my mentioning them :rolleyes: . Were it up to me I'd have gone with the more mechanical concept art idea for her/him as well. Looked almost similar to Saren

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It's kind of silly how such things can be made completely invisible in this universe, down to scarring. Guess the quarians are all thinking happy thoughts, or perhaps Gerrel and Xen have a case of Renegade face syndrome that we never get to see.  :rolleyes:



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Source? Because in Homeworlds 2, which starts just as she sets out on pilgrimage, she already has it.

https://pulllist.com...ws/MAR120017/4/

 

I know Shep had cybernetic implants post Lazarus....hence my mentioning them :rolleyes: . Were it up to me I'd have gone with the more mechanical concept art idea for her/him as well. Looked almost similar to Saren

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It's kind of silly how such things can be made completely invisible in this universe, down to scarring. Guess the quarians are all thinking happy thoughts, or perhaps Gerrel and Xen have a case of Renegade face syndrome that we never get to see.  :rolleyes:

1.  No proof, but there is no proof of anything concerning the arm piece other than it is shown on her.  Let's be honest here.  It was a design choice by the BW team because it looked cool.  No other reason than that.  (It fit with the suit rats/thieves/vagabond theme for the quarians)

 

2.  I was just pointing out that the cybernetics could be all implanted below the skin with nothing poking out.  As for Shepard and tubes like Saren... BW was just saving money there (as good a reason as any I think).  2 or more meshes for one character when just a texture could do the trick with the scaring. 



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This. I'm not foaming at the mouth over BioWare's lazy photoshopping, but if Quarians ever actually appear without their suits the design really needs to be given more attention. Humans with less fingers and black lines on their faces is not a good or imaginative design.

 

Or at the very least, give them more culture!

 

One of the true deficiencies of the races of Mass Effect is the lack of culture. It's not just the clothes or the weaponry, but little mannerisms, art, music, architecture, random products that they take for granted, family life, community life, etc. This is a really shallow aspect of the Mass Effect Universe. Batarians are basically humans who don't like being talked to and support piracy and slavery. Big whoop. How about some actual in-game examples of their four eyes being useful (apparently they're really good at spotting deception, but we see nothing of the sort), or their music, or what Batarians do in their spare time besides ****** about Humans.

 

And the Quarians could use something similar. We hear a lot about their music and their art, but all we ever see of that is Tali singing about as well as the average drunk at a karaoke bar. Maybe music really speaks to Quarians in a way that we haven't seen yet, but we should see it. Even if they're just "humans with less fingers and black lines on their faces," they can be so much more with good writing.


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Or at the very least, give them more culture!

One of the true deficiencies of the races of Mass Effect is the lack of culture. It's not just the clothes or the weaponry, but little mannerisms, art, music, architecture, random products that they take for granted, family life, community life, etc. This is a really shallow aspect of the Mass Effect Universe. Batarians are basically humans who don't like being talked to and support piracy and slavery. Big whoop. How about some actual in-game examples of their four eyes being useful (apparently they're really good at spotting deception, but we see nothing of the sort), or their music, or what Batarians do in their spare time besides ****** about Humans.

And the Quarians could use something similar. We hear a lot about their music and their art, but all we ever see of that is Tali singing about as well as the average drunk at a karaoke bar. Maybe music really speaks to Quarians in a way that we haven't seen yet, but we should see it. Even if they're just "humans with less fingers and black lines on their faces," they can be so much more with good writing.



Given the story arc of me1-3 it wasn't really needed. But in MEA where you might be colonizing space and meeting new species this would be a much more valuable add.
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