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Yes, I am soo butthurt. This is also the first thread where I talked trash about claymore.
You clearly haven't seen me post about claymore, have you?
Slasher, typed words were not necessary to accompany the glory that is that picture.
Take all of my Likes for the rest of the day.
Yup. Claymore is not any more/less difficult to use than the most other shotguns.
That said, lolclaymore.
Keep rocking that venom
Ofc I will.
I need my no aim crutch.I am in the skilled minority that uses skill and headknowledge to rock the venom.
Much better.
It takes no skill to shoot the ground with a grenade launcher. Also the "aim crutch" you speak of doesn't help at all. I prefer not to ADS anyways and just shoot the Claymore from the hip as it's more stylish that way
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LOL you are indeed the type to get touchy over this. I'm sure this act of yours wasn't just for reference purposes. Keep it up and keep rocking that venom
LOL. How well you know me.... All that head knowlledge...tsk tsk...
Plus, I can't even begin to understand the obsession you have with me using the venom.
When the venom is concerned yes. Yer known to get touchy when people belittle the venom in any way. I remember a venom bash thread a while back where I asked you why do you get so touchy over the venom and you said because you love the gun.... I'll find it. There's no obsession at all. I just find it amusing how you can't handle little venom jabs and get offended
Yes, I am soo butthurt. This is also the first thread where I talked trash about claymore.
You clearly haven't seen me post about claymore, have you?
This isn't about the claymore you should know this. It's about your vindictive references. We both and others know what you were doing
OK guys, who stole the other one's girlfriend ?
I assumed this was a troll thread so I must admit I'm surprised people still fell for it
Never change BSN.
Nah it wasn't
Ah then that makes this thread even more entertainingNah it wasn't
How would you know that? I'm Admiral Xen. I invented the Reegar. It can shoot whatever I say, and I say it shoots superheated, electrically charged sharp Canadian white cheddar. Now that's canon. Suck it.
For someone who is ostensibly confident in her skills, you sound horribly butthurt. Why is the hate? Why can't you just live and let live? The only reason I can imagine is the elitism I described earlier.
How is a prime or Pyro going to "pulverize" you if you are a stagger immune, DR stacking to the point of being literally invincible tank like the Proguard/Batguard or are impossible to see in the approach because of cloak (and are also invincible if you used AIU, TGI or a volus with shieldboost), at least before you have melted it into a cheesy paste suitable for spreading on crackers? The lolpyro in particular is going to be staggered by the huge spike damage to its shields and then immediately melted long before it can recover, and even if it weren't it is going to die in a tenth of a second before it can do anything with its weak flamer, so it's not as if it even matters that it can see you coming or how tough your build is.
I'm not talking about the Prime you shooting at , I'm talking about the Prime standing in the other end of the room, with Siege Pulses ready. Or the Hunter that blindsided you and going in for the melee. The Reegar requires you to move up to the enemy and stand there for a few seconds, which is a death sentence if you don't know what you are doing. And knowing how to stack up DR or use cloak optimally require knowledge of game mechanics, devising a tactic and executing it on the battlefield - skill, in other words.
Of course, the knowledge that makes Reegar work also applicable elsewhere. RHA and divisionary tactics benefit most weapons, although not as vital to them. For a veteran like you, these skills are probably second nature, an were acquired before the Reegar was even in the game. Could it be that you forgot that these skills were acquired in the game, and not default parts of any human being?
No, see the analogy between the moped and race bike. Easier to use=/= better. Krysae is probably the easiest to use gun in the game, but it is utter shite compared to the Black Widow.
Bad analogy, the Krysae has lower damage and RoF than the BW. But that's for an another topic.
Ease of use is an important, but not the only factor in the gun's worth. Other factors can negate it. It is also player-dependent: if someone has trouble lining up their shots, they are better off (both in actual DPS and in player satisfaction) with the Krysae. (And to quote myself: A gun that everyone can use is useful (=good) for everyone, even for the "skilled" minority, while a gun that only a minority can use is a bad gun for everyone else. If we trying to objectively rate guns, then averaging individual player's assessment of the gun is a pretty good way to do it.)
It's also telling that you instantly assume that something's worth can be only decided by a single factor.
The Reegar is the "better" gun because its mathematical sustained DPS is literally more than 3x higher than the next closest weapon (Raider, a gun with a shorter effective range on all but a few kits, mind you) before you even factor in that it also benefits more from the incendiary glitch than any other weapon. For comparison the DPS difference between the Reegar and that next closest gun (Raider) is proportionately larger than the difference between the Raider and the "totally not anywhere near next closest" Katana. (316% vs 282% difference). It's hilariously broken in comparison to everything else available to the point that it trivilizes the game on any character with any build, and completely breaks the game on characters that suit it well (Vanguards, for instance). Anyone who tries to convince themselves otherwise is utterly delusional and should probably stop using it immediately.
Thank you for supporting my point. Also, see what I said about acquired skills.
In case you hadn't noticed this discussion is all a giant gong show mostly between two opposite sides of the very good players who bother to post on a forum for a 3 year old game. I don't actually find the Claymore or any gun in this game difficult to use and I doubt any of the other Disciples of the High Lord in this thread do either. Comparatively to other weapons that require even less involvement, yes it's more difficult, but no, for someone who is good at the game hitting another button 1.97 seconds after you shoot and not missing all the time isn't hard.
The rest of your cod psychoanalysis sounds of someone who is mad that they aren't as good at the game as people who use Claymoar. Don't worry, superior video game skills are pointless unless you can parley them into a career, which no one here does because this game is not competitive.
I don't have any problem with the Claymore. It's a good gun to fill a certain niche. I can perform with it adequately, although my lack of practice and dislike for twitch aiming makes me usually avoid it. I don't have a problem with people who use it either. If that's what floats our boat, more power to you. But this elitist bullcrap about the "High Lord," this is an illness that spread across many circles or hardcore gaming: the deification of reflexes as the end of all gaming skills. I find this troubling for multiple reasons:
First, reaction time is something you are born with. Pride in good reflexes is like pride in being tall.
Second, reaction time is cheap. Not on the part of players, but on the part of developers: The marginal cost of appealing to it is just that of the changing a few numbers, while the resulting change in difficulty requires lots of grueling practice to overcome (or none at all, if you are part of the lucky few whose reaction times are already better.)
Third, accepting that reflexes are the ultimate skill that games challenge implies that they should challenge it more. But the limit value of that notion was already made, and it's called Dragon's Lair, a hour-long string of QTEs. After all, what challenges reflexes more than suddenly having 0.1 seconds to press a random button while watching a cutscene?
Ah then that makes this thread even more entertaining
Honestly I only came to this thread because I saw someone claimed the claymore, that is one of my most used and favourite weapons in the game was "bad" 
Also this "highlord" that started was only a fun joke honestly, just like how BSN IIRC came up with "Dark lord" for reegar people. It wasn't intentionally made to people feel highly deserved of some praise and recognition of using a said weapon. Honestly whenever someone made these kinds of jokes on a thread start, BSN wouldn't care more or less, and start adding their own BS for fun like, "No it doesn't compare to the all mighty heavenly raider" or something like that.
Some of the ones already mentioned besides high lord.
Highlord claymore
Dark lord reegar
Vernable venom
PC mustard race
*Insert something master race*
Honestly I only came to this thread because I saw someone claimed the claymore, that is one of my most used and favourite weapons in the game was "bad"
Also this "highlord" that started was only a fun joke honestly, just like how BSN IIRC came up with "Dark lord" for reegar people. It wasn't intentionally made to people feel highly deserved of some praise and recognition of using a said weapon. Honestly whenever someone made these kinds of jokes on a thread start, BSN wouldn't care more or less, and start adding their own BS for fun like, "No it doesn't compare to the all mighty heavenly raider" or something like that.
I find it disconcerting when someone jokes about their own superiority. It is a lie that its tellers too easily believe.
I find it disconcerting when someone jokes about their own superiority. It is a lie that its tellers too easily believe.
How do you know that, unless you ran a survey I doubt most people would think these so made up superiority names is something that is official and set in stone to the public to feel less equal. Why do I feel like your just saying that based on anecdotal evidence like yourself from your perspective.
And I'm not sure why you find it disconcerting in the first place. Either you takes things too seriously or very butthurt because of BSN's trolling antics.
How do you know that, unless you ran a survey I doubt most people would think these so made up superiority names is something that is official and set in stone to the public to feel less equal. Why do I feel like your just saying that based on anecdotal evidence like yourself from your perspective.
And I'm not sure why you find it disconcerting in the first place. Either you takes things too seriously or very butthurt because of BSN's trolling antics.
Survey? Official? I see you want to bring a shotgun to catch a butterfly. Joking about one's own superiority is really only affects one's self. But stroking one's ego, even with a so-called "joke," is pretty addictive. Even if, as in this case, the effect is very small.
Survey? Official? I see you want to bring a shotgun to catch a butterfly. Joking about one's own superiority is really only affects one's self. But stroking one's ego, even with a so-called "joke," is pretty addictive. Even if, as in this case, the effect is very small.
Butterfly? Shotgun? And rofl I'm not related to Albert Stewart Meek.
Also you just proved my point the effect of these BSN jokes are hardly worth the time to spend being butthurt over a superiority group that holds no significance and more or less is ignored. Like I could care less if someone made a thread saying why the PC master race is amazing and started talking sh** about the console gamers.
Also I love how you dodged my point of the argument, and assumed something without actual hard facts that you thought the average person being told by someone that they're part of the highlord group would believe something silly as that.
Claymore = fewer colorful explosions per match and is therefore garbage!
Of course you can kill mooks with a bodyshot. You just need a metric shitton of weapon damage bonus, which pretty much means you're using an infiltrator. So is that it, everyone talking down the High Lord only ever used it on a lolfiltrator? That would explain a lot, I guess...
Butterfly? Shotgun? And rofl I'm not related to Albert Stewart Meek.
Also you just proved my point the effect of these BSN jokes are hardly worth the time to spend being butthurt over a superiority group that holds no significance and more or less is ignored. Like I could care less if someone made a thread saying why the PC master race is amazing and started talking sh** about the console gamers.
Also I love how you dodged my point of the argument, and assumed something without actual hard facts that you thought the average person being told by someone that they're part of the highlord group would believe something silly as that.
Honestly, I'm not sure what your point was. Your writing is rather... hazy.
But just to be clear: I don't think that anyone would mistake the "Highlord" group anything other than the circlejerk that it is. I just happen to hate circlejerks. Sure, it's a minor issue that I could avoid entirely. But I have nothing better to occupy myself, and apparently, neither do you.
But just to be clear: I don't think that anyone would mistake the "Highlord" group anything other than the circlejerk that it is. I just happen to hate circlejerks. Sure, it's a minor issue that I could avoid entirely. But I have nothing better to occupy myself, and apparently, neither do you.
Nope, I could've done better things with my life rather than procrastinate on BSN unlike you on the other hand.
I come back to this thread with a keyboard instead of a smartphone and plan to write a long condescending shitpost complete with subtle insinuations that I'm a xenophile but then find people having serious arguments. Goddamnit BSN. I'm always late to your fuckin' parties.
Nope, I could've done better things with my life rather than procrastinate on BSN unlike you on the other hand.
Then why chose to stay here?
Then why chose to stay here?
Multi-tasking between tabs.
Yer quite the virtually vindictive individual aren't you? The amount of butthurt that this thread has aroused within you is beyond my comprehension looooooooooooooooool
Ummmm. You're the one who appears to have got butthurt. You made it "personal".
This thread is being closed because the discussion has run its course.
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