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#51
ReadingRambo220

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Ehhh...Leaping Shot. :P

Spike trap = Gravy

Leaping Shot = Chicken Fried Steak


Lol! I actually meant to type leaping shot also, sometimes my brain works faster than my inept phone typing skills (I do most my forum habitation on my phone).

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Archer? I hardly know 'er!

 

 

 

 

 

Have I done that in here lately? I don't really care, I was going to do it anyway, just curious, really...


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Also, How To Archer:

 

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To be fair, the OP should be renamed "how to archer with low promotes and low gear. I get how that build is meant to survive by not grabbing aggro. Suffers from lower dps though. Playstyles and builds change given higher promotes and better gear. It's a toolbox and you try to make things work with the things you are given. I can only tell you that me and friends that I play with use Longshot and explosive shot bc we actually prefer to grab aggro and help teammates by taking the heat off of them while doing more dps and killing more in the process. As your gear gets better and stats become better you can afford to be more aggressive and take more liberties.

PS caltrops with heartstring bow makes for pretty tanky archer
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#55
Lintanis

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I just love using Long Shot getting all the aggro and then leaping shot around like a slinky on speed  :ph34r:  :D  :P


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Been running an archer again, after finally getting two level 24 bows, this past week. Decided to try a setup mentioned in this thread, and got to say it is seriously fun! Leaping Shot/Explosive Shot/Spike Trap/Caltrops. It was a little disconcerting at first, running straight into an enemy group to throw down the traps, but soooo worth it. :lol: I get in close with my alchy and hunter, but they have stealth. Leaping shot out of there, once traps are down. I did screw up my timing a couple of times, and that did hurt when playing Perilous. :blush: At least for a low promote noob like me. B) (26 Con/23 Will/21 Cun)
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#57
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Explosive shot,

Leaping Shot,

Longshot, and

Caltrops/SpikeTrap(depending on difficulty)

 

Anyone who says any different has no idea how to play Archer effectively. 


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long shot used to be good now its not so much use, i'd rather have explosive shot leaping shot and the other two are up for debate, ive tried several builds and now I have andruils gift I like caltrops and spike trap a lot more than I did before :)



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DrascatonisFade3K

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long shot used to be good now its not so much use, i'd rather have explosive shot leaping shot and the other two are up for debate, ive tried several builds and now I have andruils gift I like caltrops and spike trap a lot more than I did before :)

If you have andruils gift you can detonate your own combos with Longshot...

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Why you don't use FD guys? It's amazing skill which killing one shot even NM. Since appr. NM I change long shot to FD. You must have high chance to crit & your team too. Cool down abilities thing which must have too (depending class). Then you will use FD each 2-4 sec.
FD
DM
ES
CT my choice.

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Why you don't use FD guys?

 

Every other ability, LS, ES, Spike Trap, benefit more from OK, and FD takes too long on Archer in comparison.

 

Hunter benefits FD way more, as it can drop aggro and positions himself ideally from stealth, also gaining added bonus damage. Hunter with exploding bow FD is amazing as well. Sooo much AoE Spirit damage from an enemy killed by FD..


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also gaining added bonus damage.

 

Correction: you don't benefit from stealth dmg bonus when using FD



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Correction: you don't benefit from stealth dmg bonus when using FD

 

You can however get flanking damage from better positioning, and the other damage passives involved with closer shots from flank too. You are highly unlikely to consistently get these bonii with archer as you can't just drop aggro and walk directly enemy as you can with Hunter. Some bows also have added flanking damage, or 'if you're not hit for 5 seconds' bonus damage. Flanking damage rings are also nicer on Hunter due to stealth.

 

Take notice the context is

 

 positions himself ideally from stealth.

 

I see the whole forest, not just the trees.


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You can however get flanking damage from better positioning, and the other damage passives involved with closer shots from flank too. You are highly unlikely to consistently get these bonii with archer as you can't just drop aggro and walk directly enemy as you can with Hunter. Some bows also have added flanking damage, or 'if you're not hit for 5 seconds' bonus damage. Flanking damage rings are also nicer on Hunter due to stealth.

 

Gotcha.



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Zorinho20_CRO

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If you have andruils gift you can detonate your own combos with Longshot...

Interesting.Gotta try this.



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xsvTOYZ

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Why you don't use FD guys? It's amazing skill which killing one shot even NM. Since appr. NM I change long shot to FD. You must have high chance to crit & your team too. Cool down abilities thing which must have too (depending class). Then you will use FD each 2-4 sec.
FD
DM
ES
CT my choice.

what the hell is

FD DM ES CT??

I see initials all the time and wonder what they mean

FD=fire department   DM= doesn't make   ES= extended Searches  CT=Concerning Tires?



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fd = fall draw, es =  exploding shot, ct is probably caltrops not sure about the other one though



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fd = fall draw, es =  exploding shot, ct is probably caltrops not sure about the other one though

see? we have the ability to make sure people understand what we are saying and then muddy it up with initials that are vague at best. 


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I have been spamming Explosive Shot and Leaping Shots.   I have not idea that using those 2 one after another seems to have no cooldown.  Probably has something to do with OK.   Also with Heartstring bow, I am getting like 10% health back with Leaping Shots even if I don't kill anything. :P   I thought the 1% HP per hit was kind of useless but I guess with Leaping shot it counts as 12 hits?



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I have been spamming Explosive Shot and Leaping Shots.   I have not idea that using those 2 one after another seems to have no cooldown.  Probably has something to do with OK.   Also with Heartstring bow, I am getting like 10% health back with Leaping Shots even if I don't kill anything. :P   I thought the 1% HP per hit was kind of useless but I guess with Leaping shot it counts as 12 hits?

Or 12 blocks if you are facing a blocking opponent.........(grumble)


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Caltrops, caltrop ring, caltrop bow.  Caltrops for everyone.... I may have to actually try that .....



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for nm try spike trap, long shot, leaping shot, fallback plan. well replace longshot with explosive shot if you must (drawing too much aggro for you to handle).