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[Silcron]

So there was the spirit world/fade, and everyone was part of it, then it got separated into that and the physical world. I won't go around listing the similarities and differences but since the situation of mages and the origin of the Veil and how things were before it has been becoming an increasingly important theme in the DA series what if we solve the demon/mage problem in a manner similar to The Legend of Korra.

In other words, do you think the DA series will end with the last protagonist carrying out Solas plan just without, you know, killing most people alive in the process?

Think about it, there wouldn't be a mage vs mundame problem because everyone would be a mage, also mages wouldn't sufer possesion because demons don't have to find a contrived way to experience the physical world, it'd be their world too (and at the same time it wouldn't, since the Fade would have fused with it.)

[Andromelek]

I think it will be a possible choice, Yes, the other would be let Thedas to rot in the mundane.

[riverbanks]

everyone would be a mage

 

I'd hope this would be a player choice made at the ending of the last game, because otherwise this would also be the day I'd quit this series.

 

We were on about this on another thread the other day, weren't we? As the final choice we get to make for the series, press X to make everyone mages, press Y to eliminate all magic from the world, roll credits.

[thats1evildude]

I abandoned the Legend of Korra after the second season. I thought that leaving the portal open was a remarkably stupid decision, given that the melded worlds were an absolute hellhole. So I hope that never happens.

[Boost32]

Korra almost destroyed the first Avatar to me, stupid protagonist (Aang wasnt much better), stupid cast with stupid villains (none reached the Azula's feet).
Hopefully BioWare will not make the same mistake as the Avatar producer did.

[Excella Gionne]

Sounds like another one of those colorful endings again, but less tolerable this time. 

[Heimdall]

I abandoned the Legend of Korra after the second season. I thought that leaving the portal open was a remarkably stupid decision, given that the melded worlds were an absolute hellhole. So I hope that never happens.

I hated that too, and cutting the Avatar off from her past lives, but you might give it another shot.  The second season was sh!t, but the third and fourth were vast improvements over the first two, imo.

 

As to the thread topic, I think that would be a terrible idea.

Spoiler

In season 3, a relatively small number of people became airbenders.  For most of them, they were soon contacted and encouraged to join the air nomad culture to learn to control their power.

 

Giving everyone the power of a mage wouldn't be the same thing.  There would be total upheaval and millions of people running around without any idea how to control their abilities and limited teachers.  There's be death and destruction no matter what.

[Excella Gionne]

I think Solas's line: "As this world burned in the raw chaos," clearly expressed what would happen if everyone became mages. Sera becoming a mage? Imagine the shitestorm that would cause. 

[ComedicSociopathy]

Couldn't we all just have a big Landsmeet or Exalted Council just vote about whether a world without a Veil is good decision? I'm sort of tried of making world changing decisions that will fundamentally change how everyone in Thedas/Milky Way will live their lives without input from others. 

[thats1evildude]

Well, I'm pretty sure the vote of the qunari would be NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ComedicSociopathy]

Well, I'm pretty sure the vote of the qunari would be NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

Oh well for Solas then I guess. Honestly, the guy's immortal so he can just take a nap and wait for the social climate to change. 

[Rascoth]

Well, I'm pretty sure the vote of the qunari would be NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'll just add this.

[Boost32]

I hated that too, and cutting the Avatar off from her past lives, but you might give it another shot.  The second season was sh!t, but the third and fourth were vast improvements over the first two, imo.
 
As to the thread topic, I think that would be a terrible idea.

Spoiler

In season 3, a relatively small number of people became airbenders.  For most of them, they were soon contacted and encouraged to join the air nomad culture to learn to control their power.
 
Giving everyone the power of a mage wouldn't be the same thing.  There would be total upheaval and millions of people running around without any idea how to control their abilities and limited teachers.  There's be death and destruction no matter what.

Better doesn't mean it was good.
Villains were idiots ( but both Zaheer and Kuvira had potential), Korra stayed her stupid self, rushed history

[thats1evildude]

Yeah, honestly, I was wearying of Korra as a protagonist before the season's end. She was largely incompetent.

[Ieldra]

@OP:

I think something like that may be a choice at the very end of the series. They'd have to be extremely careful about the details though, and how to orchestrate it. Remember ME3, where the writers clearly didn't think things through to the end? It is a choice I would tend to make, everything else being equal, but it must make sense that my character would choose it, and if there are problematic aspects, they must be debated with the companions and/or relevant NPCs in advance. None of that "high level" nonsense of ME3.

 

There would be an alternate option to strengthen the Veil to the point where it becomes impermeable, and another one to keep things as they are.

 

It may sound similar to ME3's choices, but I think these would be thematically fitting, if there is a world-changing choice at the end of the series. Of course, there may not be, but then Solas' plan would be reduced to a thematically irrelevant Evil Plan of a thematically irrelevant Big Bad Solas, just as Corypheus' and his plan. That may still work as a story, but it would be far less interesting.

 

If something like this will be the series' final choice, I don't think we'll see it in the next game. Solas may be a bigger long-term problem that isn't resolved in one game.

[Heimdall]

Better doesn't mean it was good.
Villains were idiots ( but both Zaheer and Kuvira had potential), Korra stayed her stupid self, rushed history

I thought it was good, not perfect, and she actually got much better by the end, imo.

 

But I don't want to get into an argument about it.

[Boost32]

I thought it was good, not perfect, and she actually got much better by the end, imo.

But I don't want to get into an argument about it.

Again, got better doesnt made she became a good character.

The show doesnt even compare with the original. There is no character like Toph, Sokka, Iroh, Zuko and Azula (best character in the serie, IMO).

[myahele]

Something as major as keeping or destroying the veil won't be a choice unless it's the last game of the series

[Andromelek]

On Korra's matter, I think there was no reason to seal the spirit world again, since Vatu was set free, though indeed it wasn't as good as the first serie, and none of the villains was comparable to Azula, Ammon perhaps, but they killed off the character when they turned him into a bloodbender.

[Heimdall]

Again, got better doesnt made she became a good character.

The show doesnt even compare with the original. There is no character like Toph, Sokka, Iroh, Zuko and Azula (best character in the serie, IMO).

Never said it did, but not as good as the original doesn't mean bad, especially considering how great the original show was.  I'm a bit forgiving because of the way it was developed, the first book being intended as standalone.  LoK is a show riddled with flaws and writing that tries to do too much, but there are moments when it really does live up to its predecessor.  Partly because the writers actually listened to criticism and it shows.

 

I actually liked Korra by the end, I enjoyed how she changed from an insufferable impulsive brat (And suffers for her brash behavior) to a more thoughtful and considerate character over the course of the trials she face in the last two seasons especially.

 

It may be the original's stunted younger sibling, but it isn't without merit either.

[Boost32]

It is bad. It retconned several aspects of the first show. Remember how was the moon that gave the water benders their power? And when General Zhao destroyed the moon spirit, they lost their power? Scratch that its a power that a turtle-lion can give you.

And things that shouldn't happen, like an armless person doing water bending (remember the Katata's scroll?), without any explanation on how she did that.

And its a few things that I remember right noite now, I could remember others.

And she still a idiot brat in the last Season. "I'm going to fight Kuvira, even if I'm poisoned and can't really fight".

[Cz-99]

Zaheer was a boss.

 

Only h8'ers h8 on Zaheer.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

But, Korra never fought Kuvira until after all the poison was removed from her body. 

[Boost32]

But, Korra never fought Kuvira until after all the poison was removed from her body.

The first fight, when she entered the Avatar state she sarted seeing a hallucination, she still had poison in her.
Only after being trained by Toph, the poison was fully removed.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The first fight, when she entered the Avatar state she sarted seeing a hallucination, she still had poison in her.
Only after being trained by Toph, the poison was fully removed.

 

No, that first fight took place after she was trained by Toph.