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No, that first fight took place after she was trained by Toph.

Know I remember, you are right.
Still she was a idiot to face Kuvira when she was still weak.

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It is bad. It retconned several aspects of the first show. Remember how was the moon that gave the water benders their power? And when General Zhao destroyed the moon spirit, they lost their power? Scratch that its a power that a turtle-lion can give you.

And things that shouldn't happen, like an armless person doing water bending (remember the Katata's scroll?), without any explanation on how she did that.

And its a few things that I remember right noite now, I could remember others.

Not actually a retcon, there's a scene with Wan firebending with a dragon that suggests learning how to bend rather than flailing an element around is separate from gaining the power to do it. This actually makes sense because the original series established that bending was something that you were born with, not just a learned skill. And just because the lion-turtles can give the power to waterbend doesn't mean the origin of that power isn't tied to the moon spirit

Zaheer's group was composed entirely of freakish master benders who are "just-that-good", I don't think it required much explanation. King Bumi was able to Earthbend just by moving his head.

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Still she was a idiot to face Kuvira when she was still weak.

She thought she had fixed what was wrong with her at the time, having removed the poison, it was that fight that made her realize she was still far from 100%. She was trying to stop an army from attacking a city, this only after diplomacy failed.
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He already knew how to firebend because of the turtle-lion. It even contradict the other turtle-lion who said before bending the elements, there were energy benders.

Water bending needed hands, you just need to remember Katara's scroll. Being good just because ia not a good explanation.

There are other things that contradict the original serie, Korra should just be left forgotten to not taint the original.

Because right after removing poison from your body is the right moment rio fight.

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Well it's good to see you're not being a fan-boy about this. I would have been worried otherwise.



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On Korra's matter, I think there was no reason to seal the spirit world again, since Vatu was set free, though indeed it wasn't as good as the first serie, and none of the villains was comparable to Azula, Ammon perhaps, but they killed off the character when they turned him into a bloodbender.

 

Speaking for myself, the tough sell on Azula/Ozai (whom I actually do enjoy a lot in terms of voice-acting/writing) is that the writers had this habit of overly emphasizing their ruthlessness/willingness to kill. In the context of Avatar's history (Katara's mother's death, Air-bending genocide), this always struck me as a strange disconnect, just given how careful the writers had to be about showing death.

Obviously most/all of Korra's villains are also more than willing to kill, but in this regard the original series felt weaker, mainly because the villains fell closer to the Chaotic Evil end of the spectrum, where Korra's villains had some goal/ideology they were pushing.


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He already knew how to firebend because of the turtle-lion. It even contradict the other turtle-lion who said before bending the elements, there were energy benders.

Water bending needed hands, you just need to remember Katara's scroll. Being good just because ia not a good explanation.

There are other things that contradict the original serie, Korra should just be left forgotten to not taint the original.

Because right after removing poison from your body is the right moment rio fight.

The lion-turtle gave him the ability to firebend, it did not teach him to expand beyond rudimentary technique and master fire, that was the dragon. This was actually a hole in the original series, where we were told that humans learned bending despite it clearly being an innate skill that some people have from birth and others can never learn. Korra filled a plothole, it didn't make one in this case.

Katara's scroll described a few techniques for someone with both arms, it doesn't indicate that it would be impossible for someone without arms, especially a master, to waterbend.  We've seen that master benders can do quite a lot with subtle movements, why is this so impossible to credit?

 

She chose to duel Kuvira in an attempt to save an entire city after it became clear a peaceful resolution wasn't going to happen.  You're really going to beat down on her for that?  Should she have just abandoned the city to Kuvira's invasion instead?

 

I get it, you don't like Korra, but it seems like you're looking for reasons to hate it/


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Essentially, all of the above. Even putting things in perspective, while Aang was in general a "more capable" Avatar, I think to some extent, this can also be attributed to Avatar implementing a lot more self-contained episodes, which meant that the writers on occasion had to introduce some very convoluted methods for the Heroes to "win". As an example, Imprisoned where Katara's inspiring words/coal are enough for the Earth-benders, despite months/years of malnutrition, to overcome an entire Fire Nation ship.

 

Regarding bad decisions by Aang, we also saw a few of those too: Avatar Day where he decides that a single town hating him is enough to put his entire journey on hold, The Awakening where despite just waking up from Azula's attack, he attempts to fight/run away because of his pride.

 

Last Airbender is an amazing series, but there were more than a few questionable logic issues in the context of the universe. But then we also get amazing episodes like the Puppet Master.


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I'm not sure if merging the Fade with the physical world will solve the demon problem completely.

There will be no more abominations, true, but the damage done by demons isn't limited to that. Desire and Pride will continue to tempt people with their offers. Fear demons will continue to feed on people's misery.

And of course, greater exposure to humans in a Fade immersed world will corrupt the few benevolent spirits that still exist.

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I'm still waiting for them to explain the full history of the Fade, the Old Gods, and what the Evanuris did with the lyrium from the Titans. It seems the empire they built was a house of illusions. 



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I for one immensely enjoyed The Legend Of Korra.

All seasons.

Darth Kuvira is by far my favorite character.
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