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Ms. Sarsaparilla

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I know it would be an understatement to say that people here feel strongly about the Inquisitor losing their hand, and the implications for Dragon Age 4 (if there is one, and I think there will be). Personally, I can think of all sorts of ways to leave the inquisitor out of the next game, or keep them in a leadership/advisor role, but what really interests me is an actively fighting inquisitor. This is partly because I think it would be great to see a disabled character in a lead role, but also because it potentially brings with it something the franchise could really benefit from: a new weapon style. For the past three games we’ve had variations on the same five forms: sword-and-board, 2-hander, dual wield, archer/crossbow, and mage. But consider this codex entry:
 
That’s a lot of text devoted to the philosophy behind a fighting style that doesn’t exist in the game (at least, not in a playable way)…but it could!
 
Theoretically, one of the hurdles for implementing a fighting non-mage Inquisitor, without first re-growing their arm, is the need for custom animations for their fighting style. But what if they were not the only character using a single-weapon style? The codex above provides a few hints of possibilities and it doesn’t end there. I’m imagining a Fog Warrior with a bandolier full of alchemical mist…or a flamboyant swashbuckler with a whip in the off-hand…or the return of the ranger specialization…or an Arcane Warrior with a sword and a free hand for casting…
 
A single sword or a one-handed crossbow is in fact a practical means of self-defense in an urban environment, especially when you don’t want to scare the sense out of all your contacts by marching in loaded down with bloodstained weaponry. Not that “practical” needs to be a major concern in a setting where some of the 2-handed blades look like giant tuning forks.
 
This has obvious implications for the return of the Inquisitor but I think there's a lot of potential there even if the Inquisitor is written out of the next story.
 
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Dai Grepher

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^I was wondering when someone would make the connection. Shanks a lot. :)

 

Anyway, I think just about every Inquisitor can compensate for the loss somehow. My Rift Mage will have a new arm and hand made from the same Fade material as Stone Fist, and it will be far more powerful than his old limb was (aside from the anchor of course).

 

I think the only types that won't have a decent substitute are 2-handers and archers. Yes, you could give an archer a crossbow, but it isn't the same as a bow and arrows. And it seems that the Inquisitor's arm is gone above the elbow, which means any bow arm you give that Inquisitor won't be able to bend. Though I supposed a locking mechanism could be installed.


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Andreas Amell

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One of my Inquisitors is a mage, so I'm not worried about her ability to keep fighting. 



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This is fantasy.  We are not even limited to what is realistic here and I am in agreement with you that a change up in fighting style would be refreshing, especially since it fits plot so well.

 

On a side note, my other half and I have been watching movies in which the hero or villain fights with prosthetic(s).

 

Gazelle fighting with her prosthetic legs in Kingsman is awesome.

 

The chainsaw hand switchable to other models in Army of Darkness is always fun.

 

Azog the defiler had a metal claw and a sword stuck through his stump.

 

I was asked nicely to shut up about it when commenting about how Jaime Lannister uses his golden prosthetic as a sword-bind in battle and boy could my Inquisitor use one of those, so will have to end the list there. :)

 

Great idea!

 

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Well my rogue could retrain from archer into a swashbuckling rapier wielder; the sort of sword that has always been one handed but not in conjunction with a shield.   It is best suited to a quick, agile person.    As for a ranged weapon, the good old sling shot would work rather well.  

 

I'm still holding out for a magical substitute arm; if the hero could get one in old Irish legends to replace a lost arm, then I see no reason why it shouldn't be possible in Thedas.   Dagna should have the necessary expertise to produce one.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Considering that in our own history we had prosthetic limbs capable of fighting, riding, and writing hundreds of years ago, I see no reason why Thedas wouldn't have equivalent tech. Especially because Thedas also has magic and dwarven engineering. 

 

That said I would love if they had one-handed fighting styles added as well. Especially the Crossbow Pistol thing Isabela has in DAI MP. 


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Is a specific thread on that topic really necessary? 



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Is a specific thread on that topic really necessary? 

 

Strictly speaking, this whole forum and video games in general... aren't necessary

 

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I'd love to see a fencing spec back. A rework of duelist, perhaps.

But one of my favorite heroines lost not only her lower arm, but her eye, and still managed to kick ass take names and pull a Great Escape.

Spec fiction, anything is possible. However, unless they go with the IQ as a secondary protag in 4, I doubt we'll truly see anything.

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Dai Grepher

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The Inquisitor's arm will be healed in DA4 by...

 

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The switch from an archer to a single-handed duelist wouldn't necessarily work. For example, someone who's gotten used to the relative comfort of fighting from a distance might just not be able to force themselves into melee range. Cool idea, and definitely fortunate that (statistically speaking) most would be right-handed.


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Whilst I favour the inquisitor being an npc (who has their own dialogue wheel you select from when they're speaking) over being a protagonist in DA4 I'd still love to see them fighting and can see various ways how they could.

 

Both two-handed warriors and sword and shield warriors could switch to wielding a one-handed sword, they'd have to learn a new style but that's true no matter what.

 

Mages of course just cast without their staff, or I suppose you could give them a wand if you really wanted an implement, but I think unarmed casting looks cooler.

 

Melee rogues could take up a rapier, maybe even add a dagger attachment to their stump as real rapier fighters sometimes had a dagger in their off hand.

 

Archers are more of a problem. A crossbow would tend to be very slow, though its possible Varric could get Bianca to make you a special one, alternately they could turn to dagger throwing ala Tallis.

 

The advantage of them being an npc that you don't play in combat is that instead of having to create and balance multiple whole trees, then create animations for all of the abilities(all unique from the abilities and animations the companions get), each inquisitor fighting style would only need a few animations. Much like how venatori and other npcs had far smaller amount of animations than the pc and their companions in DAI. 



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Just bring back finger of death of whatever that spell was called. 

 

Warriors and rogues should either consider tuning their dueling skills up a notch (fencing requires one good hand), or consider either a shield attachment for their off hand or one of those red templar stalker spiky things / extensions. A ranged archer can switch to throwing daggers?



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My archer rogue won't become a duelist. She is strictly a distance person and won't change that.

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In the good old days of DAO whilst you specialised in a particular style of fighting, you were not prevented from using both ranged and melee weapons.   In that game my characters always fired from a distance if they could; it just made sense not to engage the enemy at close quarters if you could avoid it.    However, when the enemy closed, they all swapped to close range weapons, even my arcane warrior could use a sword instead of a staff if they preferred.   

 

My archer is Dalish.   Naturally he favours a bow because that has been most useful to him in his former life as well as his current one as Inquisitor.  When his main occupation was a hunter, a bow is the best weapon; when you want to take out enemy mages or archers quickly before they even see you, ditto.   However, game mechanics aside, he was always trained to use close range weapons should the need arise, so it is just a matter a honing his skills in a new direction.    Since his specialism is assassin, he need make no changes there.    When you have cloaked, moved up close and then stood toe to toe with a dragon so you can fire directly into its eye (a good way of killing them), he has no real fears about getting up close and personal with any other foe.



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I hope the Inquisitor plays a big part in DA4, I mean Solas was part of their inner circle it only makes sense if the Inquisitor handles it., especially if you romanced him. Doesn't have to be the protagonist but my Quizzy isn't going to stand by and let someone else handle Solas. I really love this idea:

 

Absafraginlootly:

 

Whilst I favour the inquisitor being an npc (who has their own dialogue wheel you select from when they're speaking) over being a protagonist in DA4 I'd still love to see them fighting and can see various ways how they could.

 

I mean did anyone else see the crossbow arm in the epilogue slide involving Sera? It's completely probable and possible for the Inquisitor to still be able to fight, mine's a mage so she's got it covered.