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Which companion were you most proud of? [Trespasser Spoilers]


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Cole; the only one of the Companions that affected any concerns for Throne judgments.

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Dean_the_Young

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As for my favorite- I applaud Cassandra. I don't think she's always right, but no matter her path she leads a good, respectable path true to her convictions and ultimately for the good of the world.

 

Honestly, Cassandra is probably my favorite character who can claim 'lawful good'- struggling, and sometimes failing, but ultimately sincerely trying and always following her faith and convictions. A rare, positive depiction of militant faith in the medium of video gaming- and all the more appreciated for it.

 

 

Vivienne deserves a special nod--especially for a playthrough where the Inquisitor romanced Solas. I think she better than anyone else understood that you don't easily get over losing someone. 

 

Out of curiosity, what does she say or do in that context?

 

The one time I went through, I didn't use Vivienne. Aside from Spa Day and her threats towards Qunari if Bull betrays, I don't know what role she has.
 

 

 

 

 


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Yeah, it's probably better to stop right there if you're going to pass personal judgements, make baseless assumptions, and get yourself worked up.  And yeah my thinking is practical moreso than "feels and because reasons" logic, because ending slavery in a country that relies on it for financial support is not going to be a simple matter, it wasn't simple for Ancient Rome and it wasn't simple for the Southern U.S.  Many other factors have to come into play and freedom is a gradual process, as many slaves learned when it was abolished (officially) in the U.S.  Dorian wants to save his country, not just go all yolo freedom fighter like that idiot Anders.  That requires a lot more than what you're expecting out of him.

 

If it makes you feel better, I think that if DA heads to Tevinter, they'll write the "feels and because reasons" story moreso than the practical one anyway.

 

I know they won't, but I'd personally dig it if the Devs framed Tevinter in terms of it in terms of 'too much reform too fast leaves it weak to Qunari invasion.'

 

Like- you can abolish slavery, or weaken the mageocracy, but you can't do both without it falling to the Qunari. And then play off western liberalism's impulses against the players.


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I know they won't, but I'd personally dig it if the Devs framed Tevinter in terms of it in terms of 'too much reform too fast leaves it weak to Qunari invasion.'

 

Like- you can abolish slavery, or weaken the mageocracy, but you can't do both without it falling to the Qunari. And then play off western liberalism's impulses against the players.

I agree. Just magically waving a wand and abolishing slavery, awful though it is, leaves a system economically weak



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I love Krem and just assume he is part of a lower class that has nothing to do with slavery... please let that be so :lol:

 

That is the thing about Tevinter though, so far, far as I can tell, everything Fenris said about it is true :-/

 

Krem's father became a slave, not Krem.



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I agree. Just magically waving a wand and abolishing slavery, awful though it is, leaves a system economically weak

 

It also can do long-lasting harm to the slaves. One of the evils of slavery is that it encourages, even necessitates, dependence. Legal freedom alone doesn't change that- leaving the 'free' in positions of dependence and vulnerable to extreme exploitation.

 

It's not even a matter of just money, either- 'forty acres and a mule doesn't solve it'- because effective freedom entails personal responsibility to protect and use what you have well, but such responsibility is a skill that takes years, even decades, to develop- and which immediate absolution doesn't leave slaves prepared for.


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GOOD JOB CULLEN FOR NOT DYING OF LYRUM WITHDRAW! That's all I have to say.

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It also can do long-lasting harm to the slaves. One of the evils of slavery is that it encourages, even necessitates, dependence. Legal freedom alone doesn't change that- leaving the 'free' in positions of dependence and vulnerable to extreme exploitation.


Novel I read recently dealt with this exact thing. The quote iirc was 'you can't tell a soul it's free, freedom must be done for one's self.' I mean, look at Fenris when Denarius left him on Seheron. The moment the magister comes back, Fenris reverts to following orders. But it's that event is what allowed Fenris to truly break and build his own freedom.
 
As for freeing slaves during a war, President Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as a strategic move as much as a moral position. It's also noted that the Proclamation was aimed only at the 'rebelling states', and while not binding it was hoped that the announcement would encourage slaves to flee, disrupting a major portion of the South's economy and forcing the Confederacy to spend resources chasing escaped slaves.

The Qun actually seems to have done this informally to a certain extent. If they were to do so formally as propaganda...

Then again, I agree with Solas, in that even a slave has the freedom of her thoughts.
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