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[Robert Cousland]

Can a male Inquisitor flirt with Dorian without it leading to anything serious? I enjoy the banter between him and the female Inquisitor, but I cant not romance Cassandra as a male Inquisitor.

[katerinafm]

Just don't do the romance lines in his personal quest.

[renfrees]

Define "serious". You can always turn him down when he proposes, if that is your concern.

[Big I]

You can use flirt icons while talking to him even after you've locked in Cassandra as a romance. I'm unfamiliar with the break-up mechanics in DA:I (if they even exist) so I don't know what that will trigger. I do remeber hearing that if you're flirting with both of them (presumably prior to locking one in) they'll confront you about it.

[Gervaise]

When I did the Cassandra romance my Inquisitor still flirted with Dorian initially but I avoided the heart icons during the encounter with his father and the subsequent ones back at Skyhold.    Then the Cassandra romance went to the next level and I'm pretty sure that stopped being offered the option of flirts.  

 

When I did the Josephine romance I initially didn't flirt with Dorian, went through her romance arc to what I thought was locked in point and still got offered the flirt option with Dorian.   I took it to see what would happen but it was simple flattery and had no bad implications for the other romance, where I discovered I had still another conversation to go before it locked in.  

 

Essentially you should use common sense on this.   None of the companions seem to object to you indulging in a bit of simple flirting but there are certain prompts where it is clear you are suggesting more than just flirting and these are the ones to be avoided if you don't want conflict.

 

Interestingly Dorian took quite an interest in the progress of my Cassandra romance and actually came across as rather supportive despite the fact I had flirted with him.

[ottffsse]

^Dorian is just a nice guy . But for all dirth /possibility of romances in dai I personally think femquizzies get the short end of stick because the two best companions in the game are clearly Cass and Dorian. Well there's Varric too, but he's taken care of apperantly.

[nightscrawl]

Essentially you should use common sense on this.   None of the companions seem to object to you indulging in a bit of simple flirting but there are certain prompts where it is clear you are suggesting more than just flirting and these are the ones to be avoided if you don't want conflict.

Pretty much this.

But to elaborate, the primary flirts you should NOT take are the one right after The Last Resort of Good Men (leads to a kiss), and the one during the Giselle conversation (also leads to a kiss, but the game warns you that this starts the romance).

If you choose the normal conversation flirts but not the one after Last Resort you will basically be playing out the same romance path as I do, only of course that I continue on. So, you then have the Giselle scene during which he mentions the rumors that the two of you are "intimate," and you can say that the rumors aren't true, or say that you're not surprised (probably the path you want to take), with the third choice being the negative one.

[Robert Cousland]

Thank you for the advice guys, I appreciate it.

 

New question: I found the final gear in the Bastion of the Pure but I cant find any doors I have not yet opened, does anyone know where I need to take them?

[Robert Cousland]

If this guy was a companion in Dragon Age, would you romance him?

[Mlady]

You can use flirt icons while talking to him even after you've locked in Cassandra as a romance. I'm unfamiliar with the break-up mechanics in DA:I (if they even exist) so I don't know what that will trigger. I do remeber hearing that if you're flirting with both of them (presumably prior to locking one in) they'll confront you about it.

 

The broken blue heart is the breakup option.

[Robert Cousland]

 

Brave Ser Dorian ran away 
Bravely ran away away
When danger reared it’s ugly head 
He bravely turned his tail and fled 
Yes, brave Ser Dorian turned about 
And gallantly he chickened out 
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the braaaave
Ser Dorian

[Robert Cousland]

Can anyone explain to me why Bioware is so against the Darkspawn looking the way they did in Dragon Age Origins, when absolutely everyone prefers their classic look?

[thats1evildude]

Mmmmm, I prefer the genlocks, alphas, shrieks and ogres in their current form. So it's not "everyone."

But to answer your question, there were graphical and lore considerations for why they switched the darkspawn design. They felt the darkspawn were too hodgepodge, their armour was too intricate and their skin tended to blend with the background.

Matt Rhodes presents the argument in his blog. Scroll to near the bottom.

http://mattrhodesart...scenes.html?m=1

[Robert Cousland]

MEh, I prefer the scabby hellraiser look, and the original Shrieks are far superior.

[thats1evildude]

It was rather nonsensical that darkspawn elves=hyena monsters and darkspawn dwarves=gremlins. And the hurlock alpha was just a dude in fancy armour.

 

The ghouls are also much better.

[Robert Cousland]

It was rather nonsensical that darkspawn elves=hyena monsters and darkspawn dwarves=gremlins. And the hurlock alpha was just a dude in fancy armour.

 

The ghouls are also much better.

 

Theyre Darkspawn, the resulting offspring doesnt have to make complete sense. I was perfectly fine with suspending my disbelief.

[Robert Cousland]

A few people have posted about swimming in a DA game, how it could open up new gameplay possibilities, e.t.c. But, here's the thing, on land, we have Dragons, Darkspawn, Demons, Giant Spiders, Giants, Bears... do we really want to fight whats in the water? Because the water, especially the ocean, is where all the real horrors hide.

[Robert Cousland]

If DA4 is set in exclusively in Tevinter then I want to see the return of two things, Abominations and Desire Demons. Abominations make sense due to Mages going too far, and Desire Demons are just too iconic to ignore. But, I understand that they may have been removed due to claims of sexism, so, to make it fair, I think they should include male versions of the Demons. Who wouldnt want to run into a sexy male Desire Demon?

[Shechinah]

If DA4 is set in exclusively in Tevinter then I want to see the return of two things, Abominations and Desire Demons. Abominations make sense due to Mages going too far, and Desire Demons are just too iconic to ignore. But, I understand that they may have been removed due to claims of sexism, so, to make it fair, I think they should include male versions of the Demons. Who wouldnt want to run into a sexy male Desire Demon?

 
I've seen people making such claims but I've never seen a confirmation of said claims nor much evidence to support said claims especially since, unlike other demons absent, desire demons are mentioned, statues that resemble their model appear and I consider what happened at Chateau d'Onterre to be implied to be the work of a desire demon.

[BansheeOwnage]

If DA4 is set in exclusively in Tevinter then I want to see the return of two things, Abominations and Desire Demons. Abominations make sense due to Mages going too far, and Desire Demons are just too iconic to ignore. But, I understand that they may have been removed due to claims of sexism, so, to make it fair, I think they should include male versions of the Demons. Who wouldnt want to run into a sexy male Desire Demon?

Well, I definitely think that they should make both male and female desire demons if they include them, regardless of anything else. But I personally don't want either of them to be so scantily-clad. After all, they're not lust demons. Desire is supposed to encompass much more, which is why a desire demon was trying to possess a child in DA:O, after all, but it still looked ridiculous. So I think Imshael was a step-up in that sense.

 

Another option would be to have the desire demon change appearance depending on your character. Having it appear as either male or female depending on your romance or even just flirts would be a good start. If you didn't flirt with anyone, perhaps it would either dynamically change appearance to try to get a reaction out of you or simply give up on trying to seduce you altogether.

[Shechinah]

Well, I definitely think that they should either make both male and female desire demons if they include them, regardless of anything else. But I personally don't want either of them to be so scantily-clad. After all, they're not lust demons. Desire is supposed to encompass much more, which is why a desire demon was trying to possess a child in DA:O, after all, but it still looked ridiculous. So I think Imshael was a step-up in that sense.
 
Another option would be to have the desire demon change appearance depending on your character. Having it appear as either male or female depending on your romance or even just flirts would be a good start. If you didn't flirt with anyone, perhaps it would either dynamically change appearance to try to get a reaction out of you or simply give up on trying to seduce you altogether.

 
As far as I can tell, desire demons have a majority of the times they've appeared throughout the Dragon Age series played on non-sexual desires to manipulate their intended victim.
 
While I like the desire demon design to a degree, I feel it might do the desire demon a disservice because it seems to emphasis sexual desire to the near exclusion of other desires in the design and people seem to connotate the demon with sexual desire rather than desire. I think that is why I'd favor a re-design or a second design that is more unsettling and captures the other desires it is supposed to play on like greed, love, family, power and so forth. An example would be a figure so buried under or mishaped by the representations of the desires that it's gender or even appearance cannot quite be seen: symbolic of how a person can lose themselves to their desires or how their reasons can be lost or twisted like how the desire demons twists desires to manipulate the person said desire belongs to.
 
I'd prefer, however, that the desire demons do not appear as their demonic model on first sight since I feel shapeshifting better captures how they can lure in unassuming people through manipulations and subtlety but then I feel more demon encounters should take inspiration from Mouse, Caress, Wryme and even Imshael. I thought they were a better exploration of how demons manipulated their victims.

[BansheeOwnage]

 
As far as I can tell, desire demons have a majority of the times they've appeared throughout the Dragon Age series played on non-sexual Desires to manipulate their intended victim.
 
While I like the desire demon design to a degree, I feel it might do the desire demon a disservice because it seems to emphasis sexual desire to the near exclusion of other desires in the design and people seem to connotate the demon with sexual desire rather than desire. I think that is why I'd favor a re-design or a second design that is more unsettling and captures the other desires it is supposed to play on like greed, love, family, power and so forth. An example would be a figure so buried under or mishaped by the representations of the desires that it's gender or even appearance cannot quite be seen: symbolic of how a person can lose themselves to their desires or how their reasons can be lost or twisted like how the desire demons twists desires to manipulate the person said desire belongs to.
 
I'd prefer, however, that the desire demons do not appear as their demonic model on first sight since I feel shapeshifting better captures how they can lure in unassuming people through manipulations and subtlety but then I feel more demon encounters should take inspiration from Mouse, Caress, Wryme and even Imshael. I thought they were a better exploration of how demons manipulated their victims.

I agree with pretty much all of that. My point about changing (the appearance of) gender was mostly because you can't have a single design like that when a huge chunk of the players and characters aren't attracted to females. I guess that goes without saying, but I felt like saying it anyway. But if they used your ideas, it would get rid of that problem too.

 

And I definitely agree that demons should be more subtle, and try to manipulate you before you even know they're demons.

[thats1evildude]

Sexual desire is easy visual shorthand, since "lust" is defined as the desire for immaterial things (power, respect, love, etc.) That's how lust differs from greed, which is the desire for material possessions.

I don't see what's wrong with the current representation of desire demons, aside from the idea that scantily-clad women are automatically bad, which I don't agree with. But I'm a member of the white male cis/het patriarchy, so my opinion doesn't matter.

[Robert Cousland]

Im playing the PS4 version and I really like the Inquisitors Hat, unfortunately theres an issue where it changes the wearers hair, or, in Solas's case, actually gives him hair. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?

[BansheeOwnage]

Sexual desire is easy visual shorthand, since "lust" is defined as the desire for immaterial things (power, respect, love, etc.) That's how lust differs from greed, which is the desire for material possessions.

I don't see what's wrong with the current representation of desire demons, aside from the idea that scantily-clad women are automatically bad, which I don't agree with. But I'm a member of the white male cis/het patriarchy, so my opinion doesn't matter.

I feel like you missed my posts then