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Drasca: Firestorm is the best move on the ele and Wall of Fire sucks
BSN: Yallegro is a narcissistic jerk
Yallegro turns out to be a fairly nice guy
Interesting,I played with Drasca few times in early days of DAMP and am pretty sure he praised WoF as the most important Elementalist skill.
Also,as much as I don't agree with with his attitude,which is bossy and somewhat rude,his builds are rather good and I consult his thread pretty often.
Both wall of fire and firestorm suck. They blind and disorient teammates thus making the overall team effectiveness less than it should be. I here by declare my standard Ele build the best. Immolate, Winters grasp, Frost step, Barrier. Mobile, good damage, team support.
Come at me bros.
Both wall of fire and firestorm suck. They blind and disorient teammates thus making the overall team effectiveness less than it should be. I here by declare my standard Ele build the best. Immolate, Winters grasp, Frost step, Barrier. Mobile, good damage, team support.
Come at be bros.
Whatever floats your boat 
Both wall of fire and firestorm suck. They blind and disorient teammates thus making the overall team effectiveness less than it should be. I here by declare my standard Ele build the best. Immolate, Winters grasp, Frost step, Barrier. Mobile, good damage, team support.
Come at be bros.
Winter Pact belt then?
Winter Pact belt then?
No, not so far. If I was to use one of those I'd probably opt for the fire one. Immolate with the ways you can boost it already causes really good damage. I will have to try it with one of the pact belts but I'm leery. Part of benefit of the way I play him is to stay up and bail out team mates. Sooner or later you will take one in the chops and the belts often mean you are going down.
I will give it a whirl this eve however.
No, not so far. If I was to use one of those I'd probably opt for the fire one. Immolate with the ways you can boost it already causes really good damage. I will have to try it with one of the pact belts but I'm leery. Part of benefit of the way I play him is to stay up and bail out team mates. Sooner or later you will take one in the chops and the belts often mean you are going down.
I will give it a whirl this eve however.
Haven't played it extensively due to focusing on other characters, but I did give the Inferno pact belt with Ele a try. It's viable because of Death Siphon and Barrier. Probably also need either Heart of Despair or Ice Armor as well. Flashpoint can be used to keep your Barrier going strong. Those were my observations.
Haven't played it extensively due to focusing on other characters, but I did give the Inferno pact belt with Ele a try. It's viable because of Death Siphon and Barrier. Probably also need either Heart of Despair or Ice Armor as well. Flashpoint can be used to keep your Barrier going strong. Those were my observations.
I always take both of those, I wish death siphon was not so far down the chain. I have been using the hakkon staff the last little while basically becasue I just got it but I like HoDespair. I'll take your advise and use hoDespair. I'll probably try both of the belts to see which helps the most because I spam winters grasp and immolate one after each other.
I always take both of those, I wish death siphon was not so far down the chain. I have been using the hakkon staff the last little while basically becasue I just got it but I like HoDespair. I'll take your advise and use hoDespair. I'll probably try both of the belts to see which helps the most because I spam winters grasp and immolate one after each other.
I was wondering whether you use the Winter Pact belt mainly because your build has 2 ice damage abilities. I had always assumed the Elementalist would take advantage of the Inferno Pact, but I agree that panicking is generally ****, and I could do without Firestorm for the same reasons you mentioned.
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Don't play his necro though, that thing is garbage with a G.
I don't play Necro very often,but when I do,I like that prehistoric build (by Crucible,if not mistaken)
WB,WG,FS,FC.
I don't play Necro very often,but when I do,I like that prehistoric build (by Crucible,if not mistaken)
WB,WG,FS,FC.
Why don't you play like that with the ele and the keeper?
Both wall of fire and firestorm suck. They blind and disorient teammates thus making the overall team effectiveness less than it should be. I here by declare my standard Ele build the best. Immolate, Winters grasp, Frost step, Barrier. Mobile, good damage, team support.
Come at me bros.
Let me just get that vorcha flamer out standing next to Beerfish...
No, not so far. If I was to use one of those I'd probably opt for the fire one.
Once you do, it won't matter if you have low health because you'll self revive via HoK and persistent damage... oh wait you don't have FM FW or FStm. You're screwed then.
Seriously though the Ele is ideal for the Fire belt, especially with my standard Ele build due to all the persistent spells on the map. If there's a Fire Mine (or storm/wall) on the ground, the ele can self-revive, and subsequent kills will heal you from death siphon.
Why don't you play like that with the ele and the keeper?
Because they have nice support skills that the Necromancer does not? Those classes don't have Walking Bomb?
Why don't you play like that with the ele and the keeper?
Keeper:
Barrier,CL,SC and FC or FS (depending on mood)
Ele:
WG,SF,WoF and Barrier or FC(Firestorm was mandatory before,but these days I try not to rely too much on it)
That said,I don't play mages(other than AW) on difficulties above Perilous.Maybe when I reach Promotion lord status that will change 
That said,I don't play mages(other than AW) on difficulties above Perilous.Maybe when I reach Promotion lord status that will change
If you played my Ele build, you wouldn't have this issue. You don't need promotes to do it, due to it being primarily CC with self rez and burst fire dps, with barrier mixed in. Sure, fire immune enemies would take one damage. Those same fire immune enemies are CC'ed by FStorm KD + WoF Panic.
Also super fun with the Fire Pact Belt, and a Fire Staff if you don't use hakkon's
Crazy damage (pact belt + chaotic focus + fire mine, or even basic attacks), Self Revive with Persistent spells + HoK, constant mana/health from death siphon, barrier, guardian spirit, paralyze (static charge), knockdown, panic...
Allies with single target DPS take care of any fire immune enemies around, as they now have barrier from you, and the enemy is CC'ed so its harder to die.
What's not to like? It totally does not depend on promotes at all to work (as CC is unaffected by gear, and barrier is barely affected), but scales up with gear improvements quite well.
AW's actually one of the worse canidates for higher difficulties despite how highly others rate it. It may be easy to use and gets quick returns with fade shield, but its potential is much less too. Less damage, less cc, etc. All it has going for it is dps based barrier on self. and all the other team based barriers are better.
If you played my Ele build, you wouldn't have this issue. You don't need promotes to do it, due to it being primarily CC with self rez and burst fire dps, with barrier mixed in. Sure, fire immune enemies would take one damage. Those same fire immune enemies are CC'ed by FStorm KD + WoF Panic.
Also super fun with the Fire Pact Belt, and a Fire Staff if you don't use hakkon's
Crazy damage (pact belt + chaotic focus + fire mine, or even basic attacks), Self Revive with Persistent spells + HoK, constant mana/health from death siphon, barrier, guardian spirit, paralyze (static charge), knockdown, panic...
Allies with single target DPS take care of any fire immune enemies around, as they now have barrier from you, and the enemy is CC'ed so its harder to die.
What's not to like? It totally does not depend on promotes at all to work (as CC is unaffected by gear, and barrier is barely affected), but scales up with gear improvements quite well.
AW's actually one of the worse canidates for higher difficulties despite how highly others rate it. It may be easy to use and gets quick returns with fade shield, but its potential is much less too. Less damage, less cc, etc. All it has going for it is dps based barrier on self. and all the other team based barriers are better.
tbh,Fire mine is a l2p issue for me.
On the other hand I really enjoy playing AW and CL,SF,FC and PotA is my favourite build.
So I start up a game solo to try out some of the things we talked about in this thread. I quickly realize I have no heal on kill items. I had been relying on the staff for hok and when I switched to the despair staff i forgot to equip any rings. Amazingly I almost made it though the 2nd wave before eating sand.
So I start up a game solo to try out some of the things we talked about in this thread. I quickly realize I have no heal on kill items. I had been relying on the staff for hok and when I switched to the despair staff i forgot to equip any rings. Amazingly I almost made it though the 2nd wave before eating sand.
You need a twitter account.
So I start up a game solo to try out some of the things we talked about in this thread. I quickly realize I have no heal on kill items. I had been relying on the staff for hok and when I switched to the despair staff i forgot to equip any rings. Amazingly I almost made it though the 2nd wave before eating sand.
You need a twitter account.
#solotestthingswetalkedabout
#dohforgethok
#iawesomefirstwavenoprob
#dohsecondwaveeatsand
You need a twitter account.
Wouldn't that last post have exceeded twitters limits?
You're only supposed to use twitter if you try and say something that should take 1,000 words in 200 words and thus make you look like a fool or be grossly misinterpreted, isn't that how twitter works?
It's all good, lol. The boards are petty dead anyway. Let's see you try to spin the argument about pseudo not meaning fake.
Done and done.
tbh,Fire mine is a l2p issue for me.
On the other hand I really enjoy playing AW and CL,SF,FC and PotA is my favourite build.
Easiest way to use FM is to cast it beneath your feet and always be standing on a FM. Best way to use Ele is from cover at a chokepoint.
Once you have Chaotic Focus, cast barrier first, then FM immediately afterward.
Enemies get trolled / Vaproized trying to attack you.
So I start up a game solo to try out some of the things we talked about in this thread. I quickly realize I have no heal on kill items. I had been relying on the staff for hok and when I switched to the despair staff i forgot to equip any rings. Amazingly I almost made it though the 2nd wave before eating sand.
Why would you use the despair staff? Surely even Staff of the Dragon is better if you have the Fire Pact Belt, assuming you have no hakkons or low crit chance.
Also on controller pointing the camera straight down with the joystick is a way to avoid targetting anything else, and guaranteeing a quick target cast over the Ele self instead of somewhere off in the distance.
Why would you use the despair staff? Surely even Staff of the Dragon is better if you have the Fire Pact Belt, assuming you have no hakkons or low crit chance.
Also on controller pointing the camera straight down with the joystick is a way to avoid targetting anything else, and guaranteeing a quick target cast over the Ele self instead of somewhere off in the distance.
Nope, Fire Mine, Ice Mine and Firestorm do not behave like the other AoE spells.
If you aim the camera down the mine is still somewhere in front of you
This may be the easiest way to use Ele how YOU use it but not overall. I use a different build and it would suck if I did that.Easiest way to use FM is to cast it beneath your feet and always be standing on a FM. Best way to use Ele is from cover at a chokepoint.
Once you have Chaotic Focus, cast barrier first, then FM immediately afterward.
Enemies get trolled / Vaproized trying to attack you.
This may be the easiest way to use Ele how YOU use it but not overall. I use a different build and it would suck if I did that.
Wouldn't you suck regardless?
L2Read Context here is FM. See below.
tbh,Fire mine is a l2p issue for me.
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