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What can Bioware and ME:A learn from Life is Strange? (Oh, spoilers within)


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I think the worst part of one review (might have been game spot? ) was criticising the potential relationship between max and chloe as wankfest material for a male audience.

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I think the worst part of one review (might have been game spot? ) was criticising the potential relationship between max and chloe as wankfest material for a male audience.


Poor Warren. Nobody loves him. Maybe things are better in that chem lab in the sky.

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What can Bioware learn from life is strange?

Probably how to make me cry. Really really hard. :crying:

 

It was a great game by the way.



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For all it's technical faults LiS did character drama miles better by simply keeping the focus on them all the way.



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Poor Warren. Nobody loves him. Maybe things are better in that chem lab in the sky.

 

Yeah well, He does spy on Max when she is getting ready in the morning, so what do you expect?

 

What can Bioware learn from life is strange?

Probably how to make me cry. Really really hard. :crying:

 

It was a great game by the way.

 

I've been thinking about this and the 'feels' that I had playing Mass Effect. It's funny but this game hit oh so much harder than anything in ME; playing through it again it's really easy to see the artifice behind making you feel in a certain way (a lot of it is down to the choice of music I think). It's possible I will feel the same in time over LiS but I'm not sure - the emotional response is something fundamentally different and I have to credit the developer for playing me like a fiddle.



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I think the worst part of one review (might have been game spot? ) was criticising the potential relationship between max and chloe as wankfest material for a male audience.

 

 

Every time I think about that, I just remind myself not to touch that thought with a twenty foot stick.



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I've been thinking about this and the 'feels' that I had playing Mass Effect. It's funny but this game hit oh so much harder than anything in ME; playing through it again it's really easy to see the artifice behind making you feel in a certain way (a lot of it is down to the choice of music I think). It's possible I will feel the same in time over LiS but I'm not sure - the emotional response is something fundamentally different and I have to credit the developer for playing me like a fiddle.

 

What I enjoyed was that the end of Ep 4 really convey a convincing sense of surprise and hopelessness, despite the fact that the game's central mechanic was obviously going to get Max out of it somehow. But still, that moment when

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all of a sudden still kind of hit me, especially since the controller vibrated gently to indicate what was happening. It made me feel like the end of the Thessia mission should have. In fairness though, LiS is a much smaller, more focused story. It had to do those things and pull it off well for it to work, otherwise it would've just been the Mundane Adventures of Arcadia Bay, which it still often was, but done so in a way that worked. 


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Ooooh a lesbian thread

 

I say "lezzies" instead of "cheese" when I'm getting my picture taken


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I think the worst part of one review (might have been game spot? ) was criticising the potential relationship between max and chloe as wankfest material for a male audience.

 

Yeah, which typically ignores the fact that us "lezzies" are wanking too.


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Poor Warren. Nobody loves him. Maybe things are better in that chem lab in the sky.

He was a creep since day 1. I didn't want him even near Max. But the funny thing is, on steam forum of LIS he has quite large group of fans. Ew.


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Yeah, which typically ignores the fact that us "lezzies" are wanking too.


Ha, good point.
What I found refreshing was that the gender of the pair didn't really matter to me.
Although I don't think the game would've worked with a male protagonist, which is something Bioware cannot do I don't think, not without the Internet exploding.

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Ha, good point.
What I found refreshing was that the gender of the pair didn't really matter to me.
Although I don't think the game would've worked with a male protagonist, which is something Bioware cannot do I don't think, not without the Internet exploding.


Tbh I don't give two stuffs about gender in video games. It's only since coming onto this forum that I've observed that it's a big deal for people.

The issue I think lies with the fact that people have expectations of BW where they might not elsewhere.

Life is Strange was very unique. It had a teenage girl as the protagonist and still managed to get quite popular.

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It's a shame that the fact she is a (teenage ) girl is noteworthy as a protagonist.

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Actually, the ending of LiS reminded me of the worst part of ME3 ending. To me the ending completely ignored the whole game, and in fact the last two minutes of the game has more relevance to the plot than everything else combined. ME3 at least took the choices into account  and had some reactive ability in battle readiness.

 

And I mean ME3 is a game about killing aliens and saving Earth which it delivered on, even if it failed in the choice aspect.

 

Life is Strange is about making choices and a few puzzles, which the ending basically ignored completely.

 

Add in the huge plot holes, like how she dreamed of the storm before saving Chloe, or how an explanation of her abilities is not even explored, and I felt really cheated in the end in a very similiar (if not more so) way as ME3.


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Yeah, which typically ignores the fact that us "lezzies" are wanking too.

oh my!



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Add in the huge plot holes, like how she dreamed of the storm before saving Chloe,

 

That wasn't a plot hole.  It was put there for a very specific reason.

 

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LiS??? :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: 


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The last third or so of Episode 5 is the part I dislike, the part that almost brings the rest of the episode down with it. 


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How to not assassinate your narrative with a shallow. cliche, terribly written and overall garbage ending.



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But in the end, no matter what you did in this game you had 2 choices. So yea. BW at least gave us 3 + 1.  :P  



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The ending I think is fine (except potentially for more exposition in one). To say it's garbage or assassinates it's narrative is quite bizarre in my opinion.
I'm not sure what decisions people think aren't covered or ignored? Both endings reflect a reality that you choose, one incoporating every decision the other deliberately not.

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How to not assassinate your narrative with a shallow. cliche, terribly written and overall garbage ending.

 

I thought this was about LiS, not ME3.  


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I thought this was about LiS, not ME3.  

Learn to read cause it is about LIS, also the garbage ending of ME3 is hardly the only reason why the game is toxic bile bub.

 

Life is strange is a turd and bringing in another turd into this wont make the former any more appealing, so please save the tired cheeky retorts. LIS ending is garbage no matter how you slice it.

 

The game feels it was written by a hormonal teenagers.



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They can learn that they're at least a tad above the cringe-inducing dork-writing of LiS and I even thought Mass Effect had a lot of dorkyness all across the board (but especially in 3 when **** got way too pretentious without the bumbling charm of the first or second games' flubs)



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Learn to read cause it is about LIS, also the garbage ending of ME3 is hardly the only reason why the game is toxic bile bub.

 

Life is strange is a turd and bringing in another turd into this wont make the former any more appealing, so please save the tired cheeky retorts. LIS ending is garbage no matter how you slice it.

 

The game feels it was written by a hormonal teenagers.

 

Well shave my back and call me an elf, opinions being passed off as facts! So edge. Very trailblaze. Wow. 


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