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[von uber]

Life is strange is a turd

Why is it? Gives us some reasons rather than just writing like a hormonal teenager.

[Mercyva]

The endings were awful and lazy. because i knew that was the case in ep1. they didnt even care enough to change things up. just because you get two girls kissing doesn't make the ending for LIS good. look past that kiss, and you'll see laziness and a disappointing finale.

[von uber]

Opinions are funny things though. You can't just say that things are awful without saying why - otherwise it just comes off as a weird rant.
I'm not sure what was 'awful' about them - th et certainly provided closure in a way me3 never did.
I'm not sure what people were expecting - the endings were pretry signposted throughout - it's not like they introduced a brand new character in the final scene is it.

[Dabrikishaw]

I was expecting our choices to matter in both endings, but neither ending actually incorporates our choices.

 

Spoiler

If you sacrifice Chloe, then the events of the entire game are wiped out, so things like how many of the citizens you were able to save in the storm or telling David about Chloe's murder never occur. sacrificing Arcadia Bay means everyone dies, so again those people you save? Meaningless. I'm just picking from certain examples because I think they get my point across better.

 

The reason I like the endings themselves is that they both feel satisfying to pick even considering what I just typed.

[Iakus]

Life is Strange's ending was pretty disappointing, so hopefully Bioware won't take lessons from that.

 

But it did do choice and consequences rather well (again, except for the end).  It also showed some pretty complex characters.  Very few were truly flawless or truly horrific.  Heck even Nathan could draw a (tiny bit) of sympathy from me.

[von uber]

I think the lack of impact of your choices in one ending was the point of the ending.
So to complain about it seems odd. For the other ending all your choices still stand.

[Dabrikishaw]

I think the lack of impact of your choices in one ending was the point of the ending. So to complain about it seems odd.

Agree to disagree here then.

 

For the other ending all your choices still stand.

Technically yes, but not in a way that actually contributes to that ending.

Spoiler

Everyone in Arcadia Bay is dead and the entire town is in ruins, so any choice relating to the lives of specific characters or places is effectively meaningless.

[Iakus]

I think the lack of impact of your choices in one ending was the point of the ending.
So to complain about it seems odd. For the other ending all your choices still stand.

It was actually in both endings since

 

Spoiler

In one ending, everything that Max had done through all five episodes has been erased, leaving only her memories of these alternate timelines.  While in the other, what Max did remains, but everyone but she and Chloe is (presumably) dead.  Thus her actions are still largely negated. It's not like stopping Jefferson/reconciling Joyce and David/befriending Victoria/talking down Kate (or not for any of these for that matter) really matters when they all die at the end anyway.

 

So yeah, here's hoping Bioware doesn't decide to follow that route.  Especially if we're going a "save the colony/planet/star cluster/galaxy/all of reality" route.

[von uber]

I can see where you are coming from and I think that is largely down to them not providing a more detailed epilogue for the other option (as a lot is left in the air with regards to survival).

[o Ventus]

I think they could learn to never ever incorporate stupid teen lingo in their dialogue.

 

Next up: What can Bioware and MEA learn from Tales from the Borderlands?

[Iakus]

 

Next up: What can Bioware and MEA learn from Tales from the Borderlands?

FIngerguns are awesome!

[SnakeCode]

The game feels it was written by a hormonal teenagers.

 

No, it was made FOR hormonal teenagers, hence the terrible cringy dialogue that sounds like a parody of mean girls or something. Blech!

[o Ventus]

FIngerguns are awesome!

 

Also, everybody is hot when they have a bowler hat.

 

Except for Fiona. She's hot when she's not wearing her hat as well.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Next up: What can Bioware and MEA learn from Tales from the Borderlands?

 

How to make a season finale that is complete trash?

[o Ventus]

How to make a season finale that is complete trash?

 

What was wrong with the finale to Tales, exactly?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

What was wrong with the finale to Tales, exactly?

 

Pretty much all of it. But the biggest points are

 

- Predictable, lameass railroading of the Handsome Jack choice. Even ignoring the railroading, the way they handled his subplot was just ****

- The questionable use of bringing Handsome Jack back only to kill him again before he does anything

- Characters feeling like exaggerated versions of themselves at times, Sasha at her "death scene" being the biggest offender

- Having what feels like the last third of the episode spend fighting a giant monster, completely missing what makes TFTBL great

- Reducing the two protagonists to tagalongs in Loaderbot's quest to bring back Gortys

 

I personally put TFTBL Episode 5 up there with ME3s ending in terms of artistic incompetence.

[KaiserShep]

What was wrong with the finale to Tales, exactly?

I'm curious myself. Now that it's complete I was going to start playing it, but I see nothing but positive reviews for it.

[karushna5]

I'm not sure what was 'awful' about them - th et certainly provided closure in a way me3 never did.
I'm not sure what people were expecting - the endings were pretry signposted throughout - it's not like they introduced a brand new character in the final scene is it.

 

No, but the lack of explanation was pretty disapointing, and for me it was the opposite of closure which neither ending seems to do. Add in that LiS seems to be pointing at one ending being correct while the other is half as long and the game makes very clear on many levels that it is illogical. So they have more 1 and a half endings.

 

And once again the ending were, erase the game so you never played or destroy any effect you had on the world. About the only choice you did that had an effect was saving the homeless woman, every other choice was completely meaningless. Even the villain basically came to nothing when faced with that choice. 

 

In fact it leaves you with such an extreme choice that the ME3 equivelent might be: Saccrifice Earth for Galaxy or galaxy for Earth. All humans die (including Shepard) or all aliens (including all ship members) it didn't take anything else in and there lacked any nuance. I expected Chloe or Max or both to die, along with many other Arcadia Bay people I just didn't expect it to be done so hamfistedly.

[von uber]

I suspect if they amend the save chloe ending to show some survivors (although to be fair they don't show anyone dead either) it would help.

[Iakus]

I'm curious myself. Now that it's complete I was going to start playing it, but I see nothing but positive reviews for it.

Tales from the Borderlands was incredible, goofy fun.  And this is coming from someone who despised ME3 and is meh about Borderlands itself.

[Ahglock]

FIngerguns are awesome!

40 seconds in is agreement. They take out half the room right before that scene.

[Ahglock]

Tales from the Borderlands was incredible, goofy fun. And this is coming from someone who despised ME3 and is meh about Borderlands itself.

Setting determines if that stuff flies. Borderlands especially after 2 is goofy and it fits. Mass Effect at least tries to pretend it is serious so catsuits and breather masks, the endings etc don't fit.

[corporal doody]

That life is only what we chose to make it. So let's just take it. Let us be free. 

[SardaukarElite]

Tales from the Borderlands was great. The ending was exactly what it should have been as well.

[Rannik]

Nothing.