53 réponses à ce sujet

[Chardonney]

I seriously do hope that every race is presented in the Ark, if there's going to be one. No race should have the right to say which ones to include and which ones to abandon to face a certain death. No one has that kind of right; not today and not in the future. Even if some race would have only small numbers left, then it should be even more important to make sure that that race will not vanish completely; to preserve it with any means necessary. Every race counts.

[Felya87]

I don't see why Quarian shouldn't be in MEA. Codex say not all Quarian stay with the Fleet. Some live in colonies, and many never go back from the Philgrimige. Geth just need a few functioning scraps left to reform themselves (see Tali's personal mission in ME2, or Overlord).

 

Some Krogan are scientists or merchants. Same for the Batarian. Not all are slavers, and surely weren't all on their planet at the start of ME3.

 

I don't really see why any race would be left behind, beside maybe the Rachni? And even in that case, only if the Racnhi Queen was the cloned one.

[spinachdiaper]

Zero chance of every MW alien race being included on an Arc theory vessel since it seems obvious that some have to go extinct for the story and plot to have weight and dramatic impact.

[Killroy]

Zero chance of every MW alien race being included on an Arc theory vessel since it seems obvious that some have to go extinct for the story and plot to have weight and dramatic impact.

That makes zero sense.

[wright1978]

Personally I hope there aren't every race from the Milky Way. Certainly the likes of the geth, batarians & the rachni would be particularly problematic, hopefully they will miss out. I've read plausible theories to include a small contingent of quarians excluded from the fleet. So if they can create a good storyline for them I'm all for it. The other core races should be relatively straightforward to include.

[spinachdiaper]

That makes zero sense.

If every race survives into ME:A then no sacrifices were made and essentially the transition to Andromeda is one made too conveniently.

[Chealec]

But if that's the case,
then they'd have to drop the Krogans as well, if the Genophage was/wasn't cured.
And batarians since they're an endangered species.

 

Batarians maybe - the Genophage cure wouldn't necessarily make a great difference one way or the other though; and it's quite possible the Ark left before it was cured. In fact you could argue that it would be more beneficial within the limited resources of an Ark ship to have Krogan fertility rates adjusted to the lower genophage levels.

[Chardonney]

If every race survives into ME:A then no sacrifices were made and essentially the transition to Andromeda is one made too conveniently.

 

If the Ark leaves before the ending of ME3, then all races still exists.

[O'Voutie O'Rooney]

We saw Krogan and Turian females in ME3.

Yes. I was focusing only on any additional races to be included, like Volus and Elcor. It seems clear that the Krogan will be in ME:A. Probably the Turians. We have also seen both sexes of the Quarian, but I have less confidence that they will be in ME:A. Wasn't there a survey done asking which races people wanted to have in the next Mass Effect? Perhaps Bioware was trying to decide which races to eliminate from the story while making the least number of people angry. Since I am a nice person, I like all the races. I also want a Varren battle-pet and a Pyjak one for onboad ship amusement.

[Enigmatick]

If what they said at the panel is still true then I definitely don't expect every species to make it over.

 

I'm referring to them wanting to create a large amount of visual diversity within species (bone structures, heights, etc).

 

That and them getting people to pick out their favorite Mass Effect species seems like reinforcement for the choice they're already going to make.

[spinachdiaper]

If the Ark leaves before the ending of ME3, then all races still exists.

It has very little to do with ME3 and mostly it's that these races all packed into one ark would result in one genocidal race war or another...that and Bioware seems determined to eliminate some races one way or another like the Geth, Quarians, Drell, Batarians, and Krogans. It's just obvious that some races will not be back to make room for the new ones. Heck, they short changed and avoided having females of certain races till ME3 so assuming that ME:A will be a happy little melting pot is just asking too much.

[Vespervin]

Assuming Ark Theory is legit, would you support the inclusion of every advanced MW race?

Yes, yes I would.

[Han Shot First]

I hope all the species from the Shepard trilogy make it to Andromeda.

[AresKeith]

But if that's the case,
then they'd have to drop the Krogans as well, if the Genophage was/wasn't cured.
And batarians since they're an endangered species.

 

The Genophage isn't an insta-death for the Krogan

[ZombiePopper]

Batarians maybe - the Genophage cure wouldn't necessarily make a great difference one way or the other though; and it's quite possible the Ark left before it was cured. In fact you could argue that it would be more beneficial within the limited resources of an Ark ship to have Krogan fertility rates adjusted to the lower genophage levels.

The biggest prob with Krogan is transporting them.
Even if you hand wave the Genophage you still have to get them from point A to point B.
Don't get me wrong I WANT the Krogan in MEA.
My point is/was that you could technically eliminate many of the MW species from MEA (Krogan included).
But why do that?
I like the variety.

The Genophage isn't an insta-death for the Krogan

True but that wasn't my point see above.

[Keitaro57]

The main problem about the presence of races are the choices made by the player during ME3. They need to make a canon ME3 story but not everybody will like it...

Hanar/Drell : May be genocided with the choices during the sidequest and/or the DLCs.

Krogans : Without Genocure, have a low reproduction rate. With the cure, have an explosive one. Must choose a canon if they want to include them.

Elcor : May be genocided without the sidequest done.

Vortchas : Almost every races see the Vortchas as a plague...

Batarian : Genocided.

Geth/Quarian : Sorry but with the war between them since the very beginning of ME3 (remember the spectre info : all the wandering Quarians run at the Fleet at the beginning of the game) Bioware must choose a canon (Geth and/or Quarian survives) or totally forget about them.

 

We don't have enough info, but Bioware must choose a canon or forget about the ME lore himself...

[Killroy]

If every race survives into ME:A then no sacrifices were made and essentially the transition to Andromeda is one made too conveniently.

Why would sacrificing entire races(otherwise known as genocide) be a prerequisite to saving races from genocide?

[spinachdiaper]

Why would sacrificing entire races(otherwise known as genocide) be a prerequisite to saving races from genocide?

The same reason people on a sinking boat put women and children first, not everyone should be guaranteed to survive.

[KaiserShep]

Why would sacrificing entire races(otherwise known as genocide) be a prerequisite to saving races from genocide?

 

A good example of how this could happen would be like the setup of Arrival. Like, imagine instead of Aratoht, it was Kharshan, and the resulting blast would wipe out the entire batarian homeworld and reduce their species to a bunch of stragglers even fewer than the quarians. 

[Killroy]

The same reason people on a sinking boat put women and children first, not everyone should be guaranteed to survive.

But where is the sinking boat? We would have to leave some races behind because... why? The galaxy is sinking?

A good example of how this could happen would be like the setup of Arrival. Like, imagine instead of Aratoht, it was Kharshan, and the resulting blast would wipe out the entire batarian homeworld and reduce their species to a bunch of stragglers even fewer than the quarians.

But why? The writers determine what happens and there is no upside to eliminating entire races. None of the races they would be willing to write out of the franchise would be popular ones so there would be very little emotional impact. Did it hurt when the Batarians were ravaged at the end of Arrival? No, because hardly anyone cared about the Batarians(ME3 MP helped some, but that was later) and you never even see the destruction in a tangible way. The same would apply to leaving races behind.

[Felya87]

I really don't think BioWare will leave behind any of their races. Even if used just for few even non talking NPCs (like the Hanar in ME2). Most of the races are way too iconical for the ME franchise, and unique to the serie. Whatever will happen, is possibile some races will have less exposure than others (maybe less Vorcha or Volus around) but I doubt will be taken away alltogether.

 

And whatever, surely the less humanoid will be the ones that will have more problems at appearing. In the worst case, some races will not be seen, and a codex entry or a dialogue will place them somewhere (a colony already formed and away from where we are, a ship with the right atmosphear for the race - I can actually easisly picture the Hanar ships being basically big space aquariums -  separated from the Ark etc...)

[Vortex13]

I want to see all the species from ME make the trip. It's going to be really boring if we get to Andromeda and only the humans, Krogan, Turians, Salarians, Asari and Quarians make it. Aside from the variety and much needed 'alien' element that species like the Hanar, Elcor and Rachni bring, there is also the concern that BioWare will be unable to rekindle the fire with an 'alien' alien like they did in ME 1 in Andromeda.

 

Believe me, I would love to be proven wrong, but BioWare doesn't really have the best track record when it comes to adding new non-human elements to an existing franchise. Outside of the ME 2 Geth (which were an elaboration on an existing race) we have not seen anything on par with the ME 1 depictions; in fact by the time ME 3 rolls around, a lot of that nuance and variety is gone. Replaced with memes or the annoyingly overused Pinocchio trope.

[Chealec]

The biggest prob with Krogan is transporting them.
Even if you hand wave the Genophage you still have to get them from point A to point B.
Don't get me wrong I WANT the Krogan in MEA.
My point is/was that you could technically eliminate many of the MW species from MEA (Krogan included).
But why do that?
I like the variety.

 

The Krogan are likely to have their own colony ships ... that's already been hinted at in the leak (no, I don't know where they got them from either).

 

Of course, whether the genophage is cured or not at that point is probably academic - "disagreements" would keep the population under control

 

Uvenk ... meet airlock! MMMRaaaaarrrarghghhgghhh!

[Vortex13]

I have to wonder if this ark ship is going to be filled on a "how useful to us are you?" basis or a "we're going to save everyone we can" one. Because if it's the former then it's probable that certain species would be left behind simply because they wouldn't bring anything worthwhile to the colonization effort. 

 

 

It would be really funny if the Hanar, Elcor, and Volus were left behind, but upon arriving in Andromeda the only planets found were either completely water covered, extremely high gravity, or had an ammonia based atmosphere. 

[Jewellzify]

Assuming the "Ark Theory" is correct, then I would assume that all races from the MW would be included because it would be about preserving all life from the galaxy. Each race would have a spot on the "Ark" to preserve their way of life.. Although, I dunno about the Vorcha.. they could have the tendencies to kill everyone aboard lmao