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[incinerator451]

My Warden had repeating relationships with Morrigan and Leliana in Origins, which were supposed to come to an end when he married Anora. He spared Loghain, knocked up Morrigan, and didn't follow her into the Eluvian.

Since Witchhunt had a oddly placed goodbye kiss from Morrigan, am I to expect anything weird in Inquisition? Should I just scrub the "romanced Morrigan" from the keep and make Kieran Loghain's kid? Or like our choices, it doesn't matter?

I like shipping Cousland as the Prince Consort, despite the "**** off I'm busy" letter.

[Big I]

Only one romance will be mentioned in DA:I, depending on who you locked in in the Keep. So only Morrigan or Leliana. If you go with Morrigan through the eluvian in Witch Hunt you're still together in Inquisiton. I'm not sure but I assume that if you didn't go through the eluvian the game treats it as though you and Morrigan broke up.

 

I've not seen it but I hear that if Leliana is Divine and in a relationship with the Prince-Consort then Anora sends Teagan an angry letter in Trespasser. I know for a fact that if Leliana is with the Prince-Consort or Queen she's introduced as their mistress during Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts.

 

If Kieran's father (either Alistair or Loghain) is at Skyhold at the same time as Kieran and Morrigan (so you do Here Lies the Abyss second) they'll have a brief banter with Morrigan about Kieran. There's also one if Alistair is there and Kieran's father was an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden.

 

No one mentions it, but if Kieran's father is:

- Alistair, Kieran is the last descendant of Calehad and so in line for the throne of Ferelden

- Loghain, Kieran is Anora's closest relative and so in line for the throne of Ferelden and/or the teyrnir of Gwaren

- the Prince Consort, Kieran is in line for the throne of Ferelden and/or the terynir of Highever

[Aren]

 

- Alistair, Kieran is the last descendant of Calehad and so in line for the throne of Ferelden

- Loghain, Kieran is Anora's closest relative and so in line for the throne of Ferelden and/or the teyrnir of Gwaren

- the Prince Consort, Kieran is in line for the throne of Ferelden and/or the terynir of Highever

-If AListair remain a GW,which is the only way to allow him to meet Kieran,the boy isn't the heir of anything since AListair signed some official papers to lose his right to the throne at the landsmeet in DAO he was even exiled by ANora,plus he is a bastard and so Kieran is the son of a bastard who is not even king and a witch.

During his meeting with Kieran he doesn't seem to care about him either.

If Alistair is king(alone,with Anora,with the Cousland) he doesn't even know him and Morrigan is bound to her own word,not use him in ferelden, otherwise this would be a betrayal,his destiny as vessel of the old god was  thwarted by Flemeth,that was her own fault especially if she drink from the well,now she can't use any right of blood.

she sleept with AListair and now her child is "normal" still her responsibility to rise it without pretend anything more.

 

-Loghain didn't tell anything to ANora,plus in this scenario Loghain doesn't have any title he's not a teryn anymore,while Anora is having trouble with her own legitimacy.

The teyurn of gwaren belongs to the HoF it is not the property of the Mac Tir

Kieran still remain in this case son of a witch and a disgraced general,again someone like Fergus or any other noble has by far more chance to rule after Anora reign.

she sleept with Loghain and now her child is "normal" still her responsibility to rise it without pretend anything more.

 

 

-Agree only if the prince followed Morrigan (romance is mandatory here),otherwise like in the case of the OP ,he is not recognized by the father.

Among all the possibility this is the only scenario that "may" work

[Big I]

-snip-

 

If Alistair's the father Kieran's still descended from Calenhad. It doesn't matter what Alistair signed, it doesn't change the geneology. Regarding Gwaren, unless the Warden asks for it as their boon it remains Anora's; her father's treachery doesn't invalidate her claim. Since Anora has no other family Kieran is in the line of succession, bastard or no.

 

Just because Kieran's (potentially) a bastard doesn't mean he can't inherit. Otherwise Alistair could never be made king.

[incinerator451]

I won't worry then I suppose. Just Origins glitches again, because the world state never corrected for breaking up with Leliana and Morrigan two times.

[XEternalXDreamsX]

I won't worry then I suppose. Just Origins glitches again, because the world state never corrected for breaking up with Leliana and Morrigan two times.

When I played Origins a while back, I had only romanced Morrigan (didn't flirt with any one else for love triangle). I had ended up leaving Thedas with her and the baby. ..but, not before marrying Anora and vowing to stay by her side. During Awakenings, Anora came to the Warden and expressed that they were still together. I played Witch Hunt last, and Morrigan expressed love for the Warden.

I tried to find something on not going through the mirror and a kiss on the final scene for relationship status, but I can not find anything 100% concrete on how that happened if you broke it off. Origins and it's DLC were very buggy.


Aside from that, this might be off topic but..
That play through I discussed above registered quite well for the Warden. Loghain still comments the HoF is prince consort even after leaving with Morrigan for years. Morrigan and HoF are still committed and have a child together (confirmed to make sure). Unless it really bothers you because your loyal relationship with Anora being more than a political gain, it seems Anora is oblivious or doesn't care. Morrigan might see it as a positive being in a seat of power with her being your true love.

Since they did not implement a baby from the Anora/HoF, Alistair/HoF, or Alistair/Anora relationship in DAI, Odds are they will not have a heir to the throne unless they go out of their way in the future installments to patch it together.

Well, I can head canon that if my HoF doesn't have a child with Anora (Morrigan must be open to this, otherwise she would be peeved at the fact he's Prince Consort), his illegitimate heir with Morrigan can take the throne with the backing of those at the Landsmeet.


Sorry for going off topic. Incase you run into Connor at Redcliffe during DAI, he will always mention Alistair as King (even when you have him drunk or executed and become Prince Consort in DAO). It is just a dialogue bug unless they patched it.

[incinerator451]

I left Morrigan to stay with Anora, before the battle and the Eluvian. I actually would have liked the Anora-Warden marriage to go further.

That being said, I don't actually know what the predominant feature of the setting is. I romanced Morrigan, then Leliana, then got back both of them with another relationship with Morrigan. Whom we broke up upon Anora, so I have no qualms with swapping the dad to Loghain.

I always save Witchhunt for last. Along with a few skill books to make use of a forth specialization.

[Secret Rare]

If Alistair's the father Kieran's still descended from Calenhad. It doesn't matter what Alistair signed, it doesn't change the geneology. Regarding Gwaren, unless the Warden asks for it as their boon it remains Anora's; her father's treachery doesn't invalidate her claim. Since Anora has no other family Kieran is in the line of succession, bastard or no.

 

Just because Kieran's (potentially) a bastard doesn't mean he can't inherit. Otherwise Alistair could never be made king.

I'm still incapable to see what it is so special about Chalenad really,the HoF did something more great and yet they are still talking about this CHalenad,a man old of 400 years ago,really aside of Eamon nobody care for Chalenad anymore.

Didn't Morrigan promised something about Kieran to not use him for any claim to the throne in fereldan,i doubt that she will not maintain her word,and for certain Alistair will not allow to a son that he think is some sort of monster to take the throne(and that he do not even know).

Loghain isn't the heir of anything just as Anora,Anora may be the Queen if so she is not a GW and will have a long life,still she doesn't even know about Kieran existence.

Aside from the whole King consort plot line(in which the husband tell to ANora that he has a son) i doubt that she Anora will ever come to know about Kieran,since Loghain didn't told to her anything and doesn't want to..

[Boost32]

My Warden had repeating relationships with Morrigan and Leliana in Origins, which were supposed to come to an end when he married Anora. He spared Loghain, knocked up Morrigan, and didn't follow her into the Eluvian.
Since Witchhunt had a oddly placed goodbye kiss from Morrigan, am I to expect anything weird in Inquisition? Should I just scrub the "romanced Morrigan" from the keep and make Kieran Loghain's kid? Or like our choices, it doesn't matter?
I like shipping Cousland as the Prince Consort, despite the "**** off I'm busy" letter.

Its treated like any character who romanced Morrigan and didnt went with her through the Eluvian. She has a different dialogue but they arent together anymore.

[cindercatz]

I'm still incapable to see what it is so special about Chalenad really,the HoF did something more great and yet they are still talking about this CHalenad,a man old of 400 years ago,really aside of Eamon nobody care for Chalenad anymore.

Calenhad essentially founded Ferelden, right? Unified it. And he's been mythologized since. He's the Ferelden equivalent of King Arthur (from whom many british nobles still claim ancestry, legendary or mythologized as he or they are). Descendency legitimizes the line of succession. It's also similar to the first emperor of China, to an extent. The myth of Calenhad props up the notion of the monarchy over a cohesive Ferelden, which is otherwise prone to fracture in favor of local ruling families. Same reason many monarchies claim or claimed divine provenance with writ of the old popes or their regional equivalent.

Edit: On topic, I wish they would go ahead and recognize broken off relationships in the dialogue and the Keep. It's a few lines of dialogue. My second Warden cared strongly about Morrigan, but broke it off in favor of Leliana because she was a better fit for his ambition as a noble. She later ended up his mistress as "King-Consort", which I don't want to undo, but he met with Morrigan in Witch Hunt as former lovers, with the sole intent of meeting his son. He loved his son and trusted Morrigan. A few lines of dialogue and a broken off tag in the Keep could've reflected that.

[Aren]

Its treated like any character who romanced Morrigan and didnt went with her through the Eluvian. She has a different dialogue but they arent together anymore.

The letter presentation to the Inq is different

 

Edit: On topic, I wish they would go ahead and recognize broken off relationships in the dialogue and the Keep. It's a few lines of dialogue. My second Warden cared strongly about Morrigan, but broke it off in favor of Leliana because she was a better fit for his ambition as a noble.

Romance both Morrigan and Leliana is possible in DAO but not in the keep.

i imagine want ing t o keep Leliana and made her Divine for a power monger noble may be the best solution especially for Trespasser,too bad that the keep pose this limitation.

[Boost32]

The letter presentation to the Inq is different
 

Romance both Morrigan and Leliana is possible in DAO but not in the keep.
i imagine want ing t o keep Leliana and made her Divine for a power monger noble may be the best solution especially for Trespasser,too bad that the keep pose this limitation.

If you romanced Morrigan and didn't follow her, the letter is the same as if you didn't romance anyone. Only Morrigan dialogue will change.

[cindercatz]

 

The letter presentation to the Inq is different

 

Romance both Morrigan and Leliana is possible in DAO but not in the keep.

i imagine want ing t o keep Leliana and made her Divine for a power monger noble may be the best solution especially for Trespasser,too bad that the keep pose this limitation.

 

He's not really a power monger so much as just ambitious, but yeah I agree. It was a big part of his arc, would've been good to see reflected in some way. Somebody just didn't consider the value in it, I guess. I'd like to see them added to the Keep anyway for future use. If we're ever lucky enough to see the Warden again, anyway. Don't know if it's possible to even have that kind of situation with the Inquisitor. Don't think so, but I haven't tried. Guess not really.